Trump : "I don't like what oriental despot Putin is doing. Not even a little bit. He's killing people."

[Litwin]

Welcome to Earth! For Trump and the Free World, oil is the only way to go, because Americans and West Europeans just can't fight the Moscow imperialists in the trenches

Context :
In four months, Saudi extraction rose from two million to 10 million barrels a day, and prices plummeted from $32 a barrel to $10. For the USSR’s economy - already accustomed to exorbitant incomes from its oil, this was a death blow. in 1986 alone, the USSR lost more than $20 billion (approximately 7.5% of the USSR’s annual income), and it already had a budget deficit.

But Saudi Arabia’s economy was also punished because of the low prices! Why did they do it? Allen’s opinion is that Casey offered the sheiks financial reparations in exchange for the move; this opinion is backed up by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron – all American companies.

The Bolshevik empire plunged into recession following the 1985-1986 oil crisis. It was enough for the already unhealthy, command-style Soviet economy to crumble. In 1986, USSR’s external loans were about $30 billion; by 1989 they had reached $50 billion.

Saudi Arabian oil prices gradually recovered until the early 2000s when they finally reached profitability again, but the Saudi government didn’t seem to care much, as they likely had massive sovereign funds saved from the hyper profitable 1970s. The US predictably profited: in 1986, American gas stations even gave away free petrol for advertising.

The oil crisis significantly helped the US win the Cold War against the USSR: the economic recession led Mikhail Gorbachev to make hugely unpopular political decisions. An attempt to reform the governmental system (known as Perestroika) was largely hopeless due to the lack of funds. Gorbachev’s populist rhetoric didn’t play well with an impoverished population. They demanded responsibility for the government’s short-sighted actions, and that’s when Boris Yeltsin came in with his harsh critique of the Soviet system at large. By the end of the 1980s, the collapse of the Bolshevik empire was all but inevitable.
Bloomberg: Saudi Arabia just slashed Arab Light crude prices to Asia by $2.30 — the steepest cut in over 2 years — days after OPEC+ stunned markets with a massive output hike, sending oil below $65 amid rising global demand fears and Trump’s tariff-driven pressure.
need to get it to $40 and hold it there for a couple of months....

"I don't like what despot Putin is doing. Not even a little bit. He's killing people."
-Trump

 

[ColonelAngus]

I thought Trump is a Putin puppet.

 

[Litwin]

I thought Trump is a Putin puppet.

 

[ColonelAngus]

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So those who claim Trump is a Putin puppet are either lying or really fucking stupid. Wouldn’t you agree?

 

[Litwin]

who claim Trump is a Putin

Did I claim it? Trump looks like Putin's puppet sometimes (often), and this is a part of his game. But, I'm not sure it will work out; his plan is too complicated. Still, we're going to win, and the Moscow horde is going to go down again, just like in 1917 and 1991. But this time, it will be the last imperial collapse.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Did I claim it? Trump looks like Putin's puppet sometimes (often), and this is a part of his game. But, I'm not sure it will work out; his plan is too complicated. Still, we're going to win, and the Moscow horde is going to go down again, just like in 1917 and 1991. But this time, it will be the last imperial collapse.
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You did not. Literally every left wing poster on this board claims it.

They will now call you a racist for claiming Trump IS NOT a Putin puppet.

 

[Litwin]

You did not. Literally every left wing poster on this board claims it.

It's a part of the two-party political system, and that's why we are in such a big problem today. How can we fix it?

Our two-party political system isn’t working. The fix? More parties.

Lee Drutman argued for more and better parties in the Washington Post.

www.newamerica.org

 

[Moonglow]

You did not. Literally every left wing poster on this board claims it.

They will now call you a racist for claiming Trump IS NOT a Putin puppet.

Trump is a pussy when it comes to confronting Pootin like he did the South African president.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lefties, you better attack Lit.

He claims Trump is not a Putin puppet.

 

[multivita-man]

So those who claim Trump is a Putin puppet are either lying or really fucking stupid. Wouldn’t you agree?

I never thought he was a puppet. More like a useful idiot, which is a hypothesis that seems to be playing itself out in real time, given that Trump is giving Putin a gift by antagonizing Europe and other traditional allies.

That being said, I think the OP is onto something: the goal of the MAGA administration does seem to be to weaponize oil production and pricing to support the petro-dollar and, more importantly, decrease revenues for Russia, Iran, and Venezuela.

Energy-based statecraft seems like a winning strategy superficially, but it remains to be seen how it holds up long term. It's obviously not great for America's energy companies - the big boys will be fine but the smaller to mid-size less so. Another potential problem, though, is that if the global energy producers fragment, pricing gets trickier.

We live in interesting times. I still think diplomacy with traditional allies and acting in unison to put pressure on Moscow and Beijing is a cheaper option.

 

[Litwin]

Trump is a pussy

Our so called "The Golden Billion" is a pussy, unfortunately , rich boys dont want to fight in tranches. With exception of Finland.

 

[Litwin]

Lefties, you better attack Lit.

He claims Trump is not a Putin puppet.

I am not a Tramp advocate, still, Many people don't grasp the strategic game that Trump, like Reagan, is playing against putin´s Moscow empire. Today, Brent crude is around $62 a barrel, while Urals is much cheaper. And as reported before, "Saudi Arabia is ready to reduce oil prices to $50." Remember, the USSR's imperial economy collapsed when oil prices fell to $15-23 a barrel, and the Moscow empire's budget is unsustainable below $42.4.

It's worth remembering how Ronald Reagan took down the Bolshevik empire – without firing a shot. His key weapon? Oil. As Michael Reagan put it, "He did it without firing a shot, as we know, but he had a super weapon -- oil.

Now, President Trump aims to cut global oil prices, specifically targeting putin's Urals crude, potentially driving it below $30. The implications are clear: the Moscow empire might not survive his term.

Back in the 1980s, a similar strategy played out. Saudi Arabia ramped up oil production from 2 million to 10 million barrels per day. This flooded the market, causing prices to plummet from $32 to $10 a barrel. For Bolshevik empire , heavily reliant on high oil revenues, this was a devastating blow. In 1986 alone, they lost over $20 billion – about 7.5% of their annual income – and their budget was already in deficit.
While this hurt Saudi Arabia's economy in the short term, it appears the US provided financial backing. As one source suggests, then-CIA Director Casey offered financial reparations to the Saudis. This is supported by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through American companies like Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron.
The result was that the Bolshevik empire was plunged into a deep recession. The already fragile, centrally planned Bolshevik empire´s economy couldn't handle the shock. The USSR's foreign debt soared from $30 billion in 1986 to $50 billion by 1989.
Eventually, oil prices recovered, reaching profitability for Saudi Arabia in the early 2000s. But by then, they had likely amassed substantial sovereign wealth funds from the high-price 1970s. The US, meanwhile, profited handsomely. In 1986, gas stations in America were practically giving away gasoline as a promotion.
This oil price collapse was a major factor in the US victory in the Cold War. The resulting economic hardship forced Bolshevik mafia boss Mikhail Gorbachev to make unpopular political concessions. His attempts at reform (his empire ) were doomed by a lack of funds. Gorbachev's rhetoric fell flat with an increasingly impoverished population, who demanded accountability. This paved the way for anti-colonial harsh criticism of the entire Bolshevik imperial system. By the late 1980s, the collapse of the Bolshevik empire was inevitable.

This is essentially Trump's peace plan.

 

[berg80]

We live in interesting times. I still think diplomacy with traditional allies and acting in unison to put pressure on Moscow and Beijing is a cheaper option.

Is it an option at all now that Dotard has alienated our allies? Why would they believe anything he says since he changes his mind constantly and is an untrustworthy, inveterate liar.

 

[multivita-man]

Is it an option at all now that Dotard has alienated our allies? Why would they believe anything he says since he changes his mind constantly and is an untrustworthy, inveterate liar.

I think that's the problem he now faces. He may indeed be weaponizing energy to gain energy dominance and use it as leverage in dealing with Russia*, Iran*, and Venezuela*, but he's also threatening to weaponize energy and a lot of other stuff against Europe and other allies. Holding the security umbrella over our allies' heads is a threat you can only make so many times before allies decide we're not trustworthy and that they'll need to start taking care of their own security (and other) needs from now on.

I'm not saying that this approach to statecraft can't work, but it involves a high degree of difficulty and we need smart people making these decisions - people who can see more than one or two variables at a time. I'm not sure we have that caliber of people in place.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I am not a Tramp advocate, still, Many people don't grasp the strategic game that Trump, like Reagan, is playing against putin´s Moscow empire. Today, Brent crude is around $62 a barrel, while Urals is much cheaper. And as reported before, "Saudi Arabia is ready to reduce oil prices to $50." Remember, the USSR's imperial economy collapsed when oil prices fell to $15-23 a barrel, and the Moscow empire's budget is unsustainable below $42.4.

It's worth remembering how Ronald Reagan took down the Bolshevik empire – without firing a shot. His key weapon? Oil. As Michael Reagan put it, "He did it without firing a shot, as we know, but he had a super weapon -- oil.

Now, President Trump aims to cut global oil prices, specifically targeting putin's Urals crude, potentially driving it below $30. The implications are clear: the Moscow empire might not survive his term.

Back in the 1980s, a similar strategy played out. Saudi Arabia ramped up oil production from 2 million to 10 million barrels per day. This flooded the market, causing prices to plummet from $32 to $10 a barrel. For Bolshevik empire , heavily reliant on high oil revenues, this was a devastating blow. In 1986 alone, they lost over $20 billion – about 7.5% of their annual income – and their budget was already in deficit.
While this hurt Saudi Arabia's economy in the short term, it appears the US provided financial backing. As one source suggests, then-CIA Director Casey offered financial reparations to the Saudis. This is supported by the fact that in 1986, 80% of Saudi oil was sold through American companies like Exxon, Mobil, Texaco, and Chevron.
The result was that the Bolshevik empire was plunged into a deep recession. The already fragile, centrally planned Bolshevik empire´s economy couldn't handle the shock. The USSR's foreign debt soared from $30 billion in 1986 to $50 billion by 1989.
Eventually, oil prices recovered, reaching profitability for Saudi Arabia in the early 2000s. But by then, they had likely amassed substantial sovereign wealth funds from the high-price 1970s. The US, meanwhile, profited handsomely. In 1986, gas stations in America were practically giving away gasoline as a promotion.
This oil price collapse was a major factor in the US victory in the Cold War. The resulting economic hardship forced Bolshevik mafia boss Mikhail Gorbachev to make unpopular political concessions. His attempts at reform (his empire ) were doomed by a lack of funds. Gorbachev's rhetoric fell flat with an increasingly impoverished population, who demanded accountability. This paved the way for anti-colonial harsh criticism of the entire Bolshevik imperial system. By the late 1980s, the collapse of the Bolshevik empire was inevitable.

This is essentially Trump's peace plan.

Lit, you claim Trump is NOT A PUTIN PUPPET.

THAT MEANS YOU ARE A RACIST MAGA.

Sorry, those are the rules. Ask any lefty on this board.

 

[Litwin]

Lit, you claim Trump is NOT A PUTIN PUPPET.

THAT MEANS YOU ARE A RACIST MAGA.

Sorry, those are the rules. Ask any lefty on this board.

do we agree that two-party political system is US biggest political problem today. How can US fix it?
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