Trump Can’t Win in 2016, So Let’s Leave Him to Destroy the Republican Party

[Nyvin]

You've never seen me support gay marriage or abortion rights... Ever?

Nope.

Then I suggest you open your damned eyes silly boy.

I just looked over your post history and the vast majority of it is just throwing personal insults at people. Can you provide a link to back up your claim?

 

[Synthaholic]

You've never seen me support gay marriage or abortion rights... Ever?

Nope.

Then I suggest you open your damned eyes silly boy.

OK. I'll monitor your posts.

 

[westwall]

You've never seen me support gay marriage or abortion rights... Ever?

Nope.

Then I suggest you open your damned eyes silly boy.

I just looked over your post history and the vast majority of it is just throwing personal insults at people. Can you provide a link to back up your claim?

Had to go all the way back to 2011 for my first ever post on the subject. There have been MANY others in support of gay marriage but this was the first post here....

Thread Title........."Stance on Gay Rights/ Marriage"

My response....."All for it. Who does it hurt?"



Stance on Gay Rights/ Marriage | Page 7 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Claudette]

One of the downfalls of living in a hyper-connected media world is that while good news travels fast, so does the bad. When one of the presidential candidates says something controversial, it gets downloaded into hyperspace and shared millions of times almost instantaneously.

The net effect of this on our psyches cannot be underestimated — it feels like the world is much smaller, much more complicated, and above all, more personal than ever before. And when political campaigns know this and tailor their events and sound bytes to go viral, the onslaught of information can be completely overwhelming.

Donald Trump exists in one way or another on your social media feed, and there’s likely little you can do about it. He is the sole focus of the 2016 presidential election because he continues to say more an more outrageous things — banning muslims from entering the country, calling Mexicans rapists, constructing a giant wall to keep out immigrants and so on — and this gets Trump attention and keeps him relevant. The more we talk about him, the longer he’s here to stay. Liberals can’t shut him up, and the Republicans are now desperately figuring out ways to reign him as they have lost any hope of controlling him.

To liberals (and anyone with human emotion) it must feel like Trump exists to personally antagonize you and everything you hold dear. This grotesque manifestation of America’s ‘Id’ represents the worst of what this country has to offer: shameless greed, unrepentant narcissism and the proud hatred of ‘other’. It is horrifying to watch, and for good reason. Should Trump become president, he would make George W. Bush seem like a reasonable moderate. The thought of Trump attempting to negotiate complicated environmental treaties, manage delicate foreign relations or dealing with America’s tumultuous domestic political landscape is genuinely chilling. Trump has an 8th grader’s understanding of policy, and the emotional maturity of an 18 year old fraternity recruitment. But however terrifying this vision might be, there isn’t actually much to worry about.

The fact is Donald Trump cannot win the Presidency in 2016.

As David Leonhardt notes in the New York Times, a Trump victory, “Would violate just about every historical pattern of presidential races. No modern candidate has received a major-party nomination — and perhaps no candidate in American history — while being opposed by the party’s elites: donors, media figures, politicians and others.”

The Republican establishment cannot stand Trump and are busy trying to figure out a way to get rid of him while shoring up his voters. As Peggy Noonan said on “CBS This Morning”:

I know Republican leaders and stalwarts and state people feel two things. One is that they cannot win the presidency with Donald Trump. the other is that they cannot win the presidency without the support of Trump’s followers. So it’s a delicate little thing.​

This “delicate little thing” is basically impossible, as Republicans continue to learn in general elections. John McCain and Mitt Romney spent the primaries in their respective campaigns trying to be as crazy as possible in order to win over the lunatic fringe of Republican voters, then fell flat in the general when the center abandoned them in droves. Post George W. Bush, crazy works only in the short term. As a long term strategy, it is a complete disaster — a fact not lost on the GOP establishment that hoped Jeb Bush would be able to save what is left of their parties White House prospects.

While a bewildering number of polls continue to show Trump’s meteoric rise, as Nate Silverwrote recently, they don’t really mean much until the few weeks preceding the primaries — where history shows Trump might be in for a nasty surprise when voters are confronted with the real prospect of Trump being the Republican nominee. Silver puts Trump’s chance at winning the Republican nomination at “higher than 0 but (considerably) less than 20 percent.”

So Trump may not even get past the Republican primaries, let alone get to take on Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. And if that happens, you heard it here first: he’ll get annihilated by a unified Democratic party that will work day and night to siphon away every Republican moderate in the country.

Donald Trump poses a threat to one particular set of interests in America: the conservative establishment. He is essentially destroying the party from the inside by humiliating the other candidates, refusing to take orders from above, and turning the party into an international laughing stock. Forget Sarah Palin, Hermain Cain, or Michele Bachmann, Trump is the real deal and he’s laying waste to everything around him.

Donald Trump is the disease the Republican party created, and unfortunately for them, they forgot to inoculate themselves first. And this means the Democrats don’t have to do much groundwork for 2016, because Donald Trump is doing it for them. So let’s enjoy the show, and watch the Republican Party disintegrate live on your facebook feed.

Trump Can't Win in 2016, So Let's Leave Him to Destroy the Republican Party - The Daily Banter - by Ben Cohen

It's a matter of simple math. Trump has alienated too many groups of voters to win the General Election.

LMAO

I've heard several polls over the holidays that say that even the least of the GOP candidates can beat Hitlery.

As for Trump?? Load of people like what he has to say. Even some Dems and Liberals what to hear what he says.

Your prediction that he can't win the general election is foolish.

He ain't perfect but he's a lot better than Hitlery and many people see that even if you don't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the republican establishment cannot follow the will of the voters it will lose. It will deserve to lose. Not only will the republicans lose the 2016 election, but likely every election for the foreseeable future.

Even if Trump can win the GOP Primary - do you honestly think he can win the General Election?

The GOP nominee can't win the White House unless they can capture at least 40% of the Hispanic vote. Trump is polling at a negative 75% and he is also losing women by 2 to 1.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

IOW--Hilary Clinton is going to paint this country blue from sea to shining sea, and it's going to be a very early night if Donald Trump is the nominee.

Frankly, with these numbers as bad as they are and knowing that--women nor Hispanics will be coming back anytime soon, there are no Republican candidates that can win. Their "raining men" platform has already collapsed. The right wing of the Republican party has already lost this election prior to the first primary vote even being cast--LOL

You are so myopic.

There are many factors that determine an election. For instance, one candidate or another gets involved in some controversy. This is what took out Herman Cain. Voter turnout is particularly important. DumBama had a huge turnout for his first election. Hope and Change, first black President, hatred of Bush and so on. Romney on the other hand didn't excite many on the right. In fact, many Republican voters stayed home in protest. He lost even though he had the majority of the Independent vote.

Weather too is an important factor. If it's too crappy outside--especially here up north, people would opt to stay home if it's snowing real bad outside.

Hillary has more baggage than an airport terminal. The only person that could rile up the left is Donald Trump running, but then again, with Trump's leftist views on some things, he may very well steal Democrat votes away from Hillary.

Your crystal ball is no better than mine.

I don't have a crystal ball, I do reading, Math & Election History.

Donald Trump and his supporters are actually Hillary Clinton's biggest asset.

For these reasons:
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
Gender Gap in 2012 Vote Is Largest in Gallup's History

Republicans are the minority party in this country today. They don't have a 1/4" to play with.

The right wing base of the Republican party has already delivered this election right into Hillary Clinton's lap.

Sure they did, just like they delivered a Democrat led Senate and Congress--record breaking election by the way.

Well keep up the spirit. In fact, the Republicans are going to get so slaughtered that you might as well not waste your energy voting. Just stay home and let the win happen.

 

[IsaacNewton]

You have to love the delusion that trump appeals to normal people outside the whackjob part of the teabagger angries.

He can't win the black, Hispanic, or women's votes. Game is over before it started, this is why the GOP is pulling nose hairs trying to figure out how to get rid of him.

But you myopic faithful keep it up. Every time he opens his mouth he sets the election next November deeper into the cement for the Democrat candidate.