Trivializing the word "Nazi"

[JBeukema]

Marx was a progressive

 

[draper]

You wont be able to understand this.

bullshit text snipped

Doublespeak for "You won't be able to agree with me"

 

[jillian]

Yes I do.

No you didn't.

You wont be able to understand this. Marx was a progressive.As was Stalin and Hitler.

no... marx and stalin were communists. that is not the same as 'progressive'.

hitler was a fascist... not the same as a 'progressive'.

you cannot lump everything you hate together as 'progressive.

it destroys any credibility your arguments might have.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Hitler claims his nazi party was the same as marxism
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4758sBZLC5k&[/ame]
I dont see any difference in the end result in the progressive/Fabian Socialist and marxsim.
The difference I guess is in the road taken not the destination.
The early progressives inspired with there propaganda and eugenics techniques.

 

[draper]

Did that make you wonder why he fought a war with Stalin?

FWIW, liberals often don't agree with Marx, Trotskyists, Leninists, Che Guevara, Chairman Mao, Cuba..............

 

[JBeukema]

Hitler claims his nazi party was the same as marxism

Guess what else Hitler claimed

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

- Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

He would have made a good muslim.
I do not think he believed in god , he just understood how to control people.

 

[Avatar4321]

The only difference between communists and progressives is that communists want instant revolution and progressives want progressive revolution.

Hence, the term progressive.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Id say the progressives think now it the time.
\I could be wrong

 

[jckryan]

The reason this production wasn't protested by the Rabbi's or the Jewish community.

Because it was produced, directed, and financed by Jews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo

THAT was my point! Also was'nt most of the cast Jewish? It supposedly started with "Seinfeld" . . . soooooo.

 

[Missourian]

when muslims engage in the systematic extermination of 11 million people, let me know.

So you believe we should simply wait until they do what they've said they want to do, and then we should get back to you ?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

when muslims engage in the systematic extermination of 11 million people, let me know.

Your kidding right?
80 million in India alone
THE MAGNITUDE OF MUSLIM ATROCITIES - I
THE MAGNITUDE OF MUSLIM ATROCITIES - II
THE STORY OF ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM IN INDIA
Voice of Dharma
The body count is not in

 

[L.K.Eder]

Yes I do.

No you didn't.

You wont be able to understand this. Marx was a progressive.As was Stalin and Hitler.

Comrade Stalin—Leader of Progressive Mankind

Source: “Pravda Articles”, On the Occasion of the 70th Birthday of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin, December 21, 1949
Publisher: Soviet News, London, 1950
Transcription/HTML Markup: Brian Reid
Public Domain: Marxists Internet Archive (2008). You may freely copy, distribute, display and perform this work; as well as make derivative and commercial works. Please credit “Marxists Internet Archive” as your source.

A QUARTER of a century ago Comrade Stalin gave an oath on behalf of the Party to fulfil with credit the behests of Lenin. Comrade Stalin’s oath resounded as a fighting call to the Party, to the working class, to the Soviet people, and was a lode-star in the historic struggle to refashion social life, the struggle for the construction of Socialist society.

Comrade Stalin led our Party and the Soviet people along Lenin’s road. He upheld and developed Lenin’s theory on the possibility of the victory of Socialism in one country. Putting Lenin’s behests into practice, our Party under the leadership of Comrade Stalin, secured the Socialist industrialisation of the country and the collectivisation of agriculture, converting the Soviet Union into a great industrial and collective farm Socialist Power.

Comrade Stalin, as nobody else, profoundly understood Lenin’s inspired ideas on the Marxist Party of a new type, upheld the purity of the Marx-Engels-Lenin teaching, developed the Marxist-Leninist theory, steeled the Party in the struggle against numerous enemies, and forged and trains cadres capable of furthering the cause of our Party.
Comrade Stalin - Leader of Progressive Mankind

you are trying this lie again?

you never learn, you hobby-propagandist.

wow, looks like the moneyshot.

sadly no context, just a footnote in hayek's book citing heimann's book's footnote.

heimann tries to keep "true liberalism" untainted by hitler by blaming socialism.
in addition, hayek tries to keep capitalism untainted by hitler by blaming socialism.

i like the "for whatever reason" part of the moneyshot.

"for whatever reason", hahaha, "thought it to be expedient"..

sounds like neither heimann nor hayek believe hitler did believe it when he allegedly said it, well jonah goldberg certainly has no doubts.
what about you mr. fitnah?
why do you think would hitler say ""basically national socialism and marxism are the same" on 24 Feb. 1941, on the 21. birthday of the party?

hm?
to deceive stalin he was about to attack some months later (planning for barbarossa was well under way) ?
because he was generally a lunatic?

to find out something about these "whatever reasons", we need to find out if

a) Hitler actually said it
and
b) if a) is answered in the affirmative, in what context did he say it.

(maybe he was just joking, the damn retard)

if a) is answered in the negative, what did he actually say.

Here is an English version of Hitler's speech, in München, 24/02/1941

Answer to a) Hitler did not say it.
Answer to b) Hitler said, e.g.

The conception of the new Movement, whose fundamentals can be expressed in a single sentence: "The Lord helps those who help themselves," opposed this. That is not only a very pious phrase, but a very just one. For one cannot assume that God exists to help people who are too cowardly and too lazy to help themselves and think that God exists only to make up for the weakness of mankind. He does not exist for that purpose.

that one was just for the lulz. hitler is a christian libertarian.

here is the "moneyshot"

They [the rest of the world] do not realize that two revolutions in Europe have created something new and tremendous. We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view. Nor do our opponents realize yet, that once I regard a man as my friend, I shall stand by him and that in doing this, I have no eye for profit. I am not a democrat and consequently no mental contortionist. Nor am I a war profiteer, but a man who hopes that, at least after his death, common justice will concede that the struggle of his whole life served a single great ideal.

ouch, Hitler is not speaking of the bolshevik revolution. he is talking about mussolini's fascist revolution.

btw, hitler is not a democrat, he said so.
but no problem, he is also not a war profiteer aka republican.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.

Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people. I am not the slave of a few international banking syndicates. I am under no obligation to any capitalist group. I sprang from the German people. My Movement, our Movement, is a German people's Movement, and it is only to this German people that we are obligated.

 

[L.K.Eder]

It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.

Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people. I am not the slave of a few international banking syndicates. I am under no obligation to any capitalist group. I sprang from the German people. My Movement, our Movement, is a German people's Movement, and it is only to this German people that we are obligated.

almost a year ago i was patient enough to address your lies, propaganda and overall scummy behaviour.



no more.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.

Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people. I am not the slave of a few international banking syndicates. I am under no obligation to any capitalist group. I sprang from the German people. My Movement, our Movement, is a German people's Movement, and it is only to this German people that we are obligated.

almost a year ago i was patient enough to address your lies, propaganda and overall scummy behaviour.



no more.

Its your link ,

SPEECH BY CHANCELLOR HITLER

 

[L.K.Eder]

It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

almost a year ago i was patient enough to address your lies, propaganda and overall scummy behaviour.



no more.

Its your link ,

SPEECH BY CHANCELLOR HITLER

I have little interest in people who have strong opinions about things they dont know much about.

i addressed your lying idiocy last year. you can read about it in the linked thread. and enjoy your hypocrisy in the linked quote of this post.

now go and listen to glenn beck or, when he does not support your hobby-jihad, scavenge your other wacky sources.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

What ever Dbag pretty clear you dont want to address the question at hand .
It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.

Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people. I am not the slave of a few international banking syndicates. I am under no obligation to any capitalist group. I sprang from the German people. My Movement, our Movement, is a German people's Movement, and it is only to this German people that we are obligated.

 

[L.K.Eder]

What ever Dbag pretty clear you dont want to address the question at hand .
It was the opinion of Goebbels as well and it reported in the NYT and is still available in the archives.
Many years before the 1941 speech.
What is hitler saying in his speech ?

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.

Germany's economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people. I am not the slave of a few international banking syndicates. I am under no obligation to any capitalist group. I sprang from the German people. My Movement, our Movement, is a German people's Movement, and it is only to this German people that we are obligated.

if you think that US american economic policies should be conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the US american people, then you are a fanatical socialist.

nice cherry-picking, scumbag. you never address nor probably even realize all the conflicting evidence presented but demand to be answered.

you have strong, loud and moronic opinions, and you are a text-book example of an indoctrinated blinder-wearing sheep.

baaaaaaaah.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Really?
Cause the way I read it Hitler is saying that National socialism and Marxism are basically the same in aims and methods.

We are fully conscious of the fact that a second revolution, where the assumption of power occurred earlier than it did in our country, proceeded parallel with ours. The Fascist Revolution, too, yielded the same results. Complete identity exists between our two revolutions, not only as regards aims, but also as regards methods. Over and above this there is our friendship, which is more than cooperation with a purpose in view.