Triple Helix: national governments, industry, and higher education

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Republicans believe universities are hotbeds of liberalism and education is overrated (after all, science is a faith, evolution a lie and climate change a conspiracy).

Government should "get out of the way" (because they can't do anything right. Look at 8 years under Bush. That proves it.)

Business can do it all, just don't tax them and give them money (because they are sitting on trillions in unspent capital).

This is why our asses are getting kicked around the world. Especially Asia. They refer to the "Triple Helix" as the "Golden Helix" because they understand such a partnership brings in the dough.

We have to get away from this Republican fantasy of economics. They can't even say "supply and demand".
 
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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?
 

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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?
You think all we need to do is take money from rich guys and give it to poor guys, they spend it and the problem is over? You didn't learn anything from the 800 billion stimulus, when the money runs out so does the stimulus?
 

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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?
You think all we need to do is take money from rich guys and give it to poor guys, they spend it and the problem is over? You didn't learn anything from the 800 billion stimulus, when the money runs out so does the stimulus?
Half the stimulus was tax cuts.

How is "supply and demand" taking from rich people in and giving to poor?

Why do Republicans think investing in America is a "BAD" thing?
 

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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?

You sure seem not to understand that term at all.

The supply of college grads...... far out weighs the number of jobs available for what ever field they chose to study.


Or haven't you been paying attention to those details?
 

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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?
You think all we need to do is take money from rich guys and give it to poor guys, they spend it and the problem is over? You didn't learn anything from the 800 billion stimulus, when the money runs out so does the stimulus?
Half the stimulus was tax cuts.

How is "supply and demand" taking from rich people in and giving to poor?

Why do Republicans think investing in America is a "BAD" thing?

I thought it was one third. Tell me about these tax cuts, my taxes didn't go down. You're talking 250-300 billion in tax cuts, where'd that money go?

C'mon dude, when you start talking about supply and demand, everybody ont his board realizes you're talking about income redistribution. You want to increase demand by taxing the rich a lot more and spreading the wealth to the lower income folks, don't be playing games here.

Repubs DO think investing in the USA is a GOOD thing, that is why they are against the Obama tax increases. When they always say "job creators", they're talking about rich investors and entrepeneurs who will start up new businesses which results in more job creation. Is it not obvious that if you take more money in the form of higher taxes that you will have less private money invested in new businesses?
 

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Does anyone know what "supply and demand" is?
So you're saying that government is subject to supply and demand?

Maybe you're right. There must be a high demand for government because the fucking government is costing us more than ever with no end in sight.

So when are you sheep going to realize that the less you all want the fucking government to take care of you, the more money you'll have in your pocket?
 

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Try it and see for yourself!
 

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Never in history has their failed ideas ever worked.

Its a religion and not a real position.


They are brain washed.
 

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The Triple Helix homepage

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0019/001937/193750e.pdf

Republicans believe universities are hotbeds of liberalism and education is overrated (after all, science is a faith, evolution a lie and climate change a conspiracy).

Government should "get out of the way" (because they can't do anything right. Look at 8 years under Bush. That proves it.)

Business can do it all, just don't tax them and give them money (because they are sitting on trillions in unspent capital).

This is why our asses are getting kicked around the world. Especially Asia. They refer to the "Triple Helix" as the "Golden Helix" because they understand such a partnership brings in the dough.

We have to get away from this Republican fantasy of economics. They can't even say "supply and demand".


Cool triple helix:


Government, Entitlements, National debt.
 
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Never in history has their failed ideas ever worked.

Its a religion and not a real position.


They are brain washed.
They don't know what "supply and demand" is.

The Triple Helix, which is working for other countries all over the world, especially in Asia, is a joke to the right.

What is wrong with this political party and why do they think they are so smart? Truly a party with a "fringe" on top.
 

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The Triple Helix homepage

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0019/001937/193750e.pdf

Republicans believe universities are hotbeds of liberalism and education is overrated (after all, science is a faith, evolution a lie and climate change a conspiracy).

Government should "get out of the way" (because they can't do anything right. Look at 8 years under Bush. That proves it.)

Business can do it all, just don't tax them and give them money (because they are sitting on trillions in unspent capital).

This is why our asses are getting kicked around the world. Especially Asia. They refer to the "Triple Helix" as the "Golden Helix" because they understand such a partnership brings in the dough.

We have to get away from this Republican fantasy of economics. They can't even say "supply and demand".
You want to move from the military-industrial complex and give more power to the educational industrial complex?

Be careful what you wish for.

You claim to admire Eisenhower, do you remember what he said in his final address?

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.​

 
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The Triple Helix homepage

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0019/001937/193750e.pdf

Republicans believe universities are hotbeds of liberalism and education is overrated (after all, science is a faith, evolution a lie and climate change a conspiracy).

Government should "get out of the way" (because they can't do anything right. Look at 8 years under Bush. That proves it.)

Business can do it all, just don't tax them and give them money (because they are sitting on trillions in unspent capital).

This is why our asses are getting kicked around the world. Especially Asia. They refer to the "Triple Helix" as the "Golden Helix" because they understand such a partnership brings in the dough.

We have to get away from this Republican fantasy of economics. They can't even say "supply and demand".
You want to move from the military-industrial complex and give more power to the educational industrial complex?

Be careful what you wish for.

You claim to admire Eisenhower, do you remember what he said in his final address?

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.​

It was a "warning" not a prophecy. Scientific-technological elite? That's who is kicking our asses overseas. Corn farmers in Kansas are needed, but even they get their corn from scientists.

I find it hilarious that right wingers argue AGAINST science, scientists and education. Hilarious. And they want to be "billionaires"? How they gonna get there? Short answer, they won't.
 

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