Time to expose the gravity scam. Consensus isn't science.

[Anomalism]

Every physicist on Earth claims gravity exists. They all say the same thing. That's not science, that's groupthink. Consensus isn't evidence.

Who funds gravity research? Governments and universities. Who benefits? Physicists who build careers and get grants by "studying" gravity. Follow the money.

Have you ever actually SEEN gravity? No. You've seen things fall. That's correlation, not causation. Nobody has ever directly observed a gravitational force. These people operate on faith.
Use your eyes. Does spacetime LOOK curved to you?

Newton's laws were written over 300 years ago. Science has moved on since then. Why are we still trusting theories from the 1700s? Then Einstein comes along and completely changes the story. First gravity is a force, now it's "curved spacetime." Which is it? They can't even keep their models consistent.

And spacetime itself is just a mathematical construct. You can't bend math. That's not physics, that's metaphysics. They still can't fully reconcile gravity with quantum mechanics. Their own models are incomplete. But we're supposed to trust them completely?

If gravity is real, why doesn't it work in space? Astronauts float. Planets don't fall into the Sun. Seems selective. They say gravity is constant, but a feather and a bowling ball fall at different speeds. That's not even internally consistent.

Funny how gravity only exists when you're on Earth, but disappears when it's inconvenient.
There are physicists who question general relativity. You never hear about them. Why do you think that is? The establishment doesn't tolerate dissent.

They call it the "theory" of gravity. Theory. Not law. Not fact. By their own admission, it's not proven.
Galileo was persecuted for questioning the scientific consensus of his time. Now dissenters are being attacked for doing the same thing. Interesting.

The scientific establishment has been wrong before. Phlogiston. Luminiferous ether. Miasma theory. But sure, THIS time they've definitely got it right.

At what point do we admit this is just an unproven theory propped up by institutions and social pressure? I'm not claiming to have all the answers. I'm just asking questions. If the theory is solid, why are they so threatened by scrutiny?

 

[Votto]

Sure, there is nothing to measure or see, yet gravity simply is.

All scientists seem to know, however, is that gravity has a zero point of mass that is correlated to the movement of one Rosie O'Donnell. As she moves things simply start getting sucked in and destroyed for some unknown reason.

 

[Anomalism]

Sure, there is nothing to measure or see, yet gravity simply is.

All scientists seem to know, however, is that gravity has a zero point of mass that is correlated to the movement of one Rosie O'Donnell. As she moves things simply start getting sucked in and destroyed for some unknown reason.

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So gravity simply is. Fascinating. But if it simply is, why can’t we see it, weigh it directly, or measure it independently of all these models? And if it’s so obvious, why did Newton and Einstein have to spend centuries debating what it actually does? I’m just trying to reconcile your "simply is" with the mountains of math and assumptions we’re apparently supposed to trust blindly.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Every physicist on Earth claims gravity exists. They all say the same thing. That's not science, that's groupthink. Consensus isn't evidence.

Who funds gravity research? Governments and universities. Who benefits? Physicists who build careers and get grants by "studying" gravity. Follow the money.

Have you ever actually SEEN gravity? No. You've seen things fall. That's correlation, not causation. Nobody has ever directly observed a gravitational force. These people operate on faith.
Use your eyes. Does spacetime LOOK curved to you?

Newton's laws were written over 300 years ago. Science has moved on since then. Why are we still trusting theories from the 1700s? Then Einstein comes along and completely changes the story. First gravity is a force, now it's "curved spacetime." Which is it? They can't even keep their models consistent.

And spacetime itself is just a mathematical construct. You can't bend math. That's not physics, that's metaphysics. They still can't fully reconcile gravity with quantum mechanics. Their own models are incomplete. But we're supposed to trust them completely?

If gravity is real, why doesn't it work in space? Astronauts float. Planets don't fall into the Sun. Seems selective. They say gravity is constant, but a feather and a bowling ball fall at different speeds. That's not even internally consistent.

Funny how gravity only exists when you're on Earth, but disappears when it's inconvenient.
There are physicists who question general relativity. You never hear about them. Why do you think that is? The establishment doesn't tolerate dissent.

They call it the "theory" of gravity. Theory. Not law. Not fact. By their own admission, it's not proven.
Galileo was persecuted for questioning the scientific consensus of his time. Now dissenters are being attacked for doing the same thing. Interesting.

The scientific establishment has been wrong before. Phlogiston. Luminiferous ether. Miasma theory. But sure, THIS time they've definitely got it right.

At what point do we admit this is just an unproven theory propped up by institutions and social pressure? I'm not claiming to have all the answers. I'm just asking questions. If the theory is solid, why are they so threatened by scrutiny?

Gravity distorts time and space, the AGWCult distorts science

 

[Oddball]

Every physicist on Earth claims gravity exists. They all say the same thing. That's not science, that's groupthink. Consensus isn't evidence.

Who funds gravity research? Governments and universities. Who benefits? Physicists who build careers and get grants by "studying" gravity. Follow the money.

Have you ever actually SEEN gravity? No. You've seen things fall. That's correlation, not causation. Nobody has ever directly observed a gravitational force. These people operate on faith.
Use your eyes. Does spacetime LOOK curved to you?

Newton's laws were written over 300 years ago. Science has moved on since then. Why are we still trusting theories from the 1700s? Then Einstein comes along and completely changes the story. First gravity is a force, now it's "curved spacetime." Which is it? They can't even keep their models consistent.

And spacetime itself is just a mathematical construct. You can't bend math. That's not physics, that's metaphysics. They still can't fully reconcile gravity with quantum mechanics. Their own models are incomplete. But we're supposed to trust them completely?

If gravity is real, why doesn't it work in space? Astronauts float. Planets don't fall into the Sun. Seems selective. They say gravity is constant, but a feather and a bowling ball fall at different speeds. That's not even internally consistent.

Funny how gravity only exists when you're on Earth, but disappears when it's inconvenient.
There are physicists who question general relativity. You never hear about them. Why do you think that is? The establishment doesn't tolerate dissent.

They call it the "theory" of gravity. Theory. Not law. Not fact. By their own admission, it's not proven.
Galileo was persecuted for questioning the scientific consensus of his time. Now dissenters are being attacked for doing the same thing. Interesting.

The scientific establishment has been wrong before. Phlogiston. Luminiferous ether. Miasma theory. But sure, THIS time they've definitely got it right.

At what point do we admit this is just an unproven theory propped up by institutions and social pressure? I'm not claiming to have all the answers. I'm just asking questions. If the theory is solid, why are they so threatened by scrutiny?

Anyone can measure, quantify, and demonstrate the properties of gravity, to the point that middle schoolers can demonstrate them and do the math.

Your extremely poor and droll attempt at trying to mock the debunkers of your idiotic globalclimatecoolerwarmeringchange hoax has flopped.

 

[Anomalism]

Gravity distorts time and space, the AGWCult distorts science

Distorts time and space? Look out your window; does spacetime look distorted to you? I live on this planet every day, and it all looks perfectly flat. If gravity is bending reality itself, shouldn’t we see some obvious warping happening? Or is this another "trust the math" situation?”

 

[Votto]

Gravity distorts time and space, the AGWCult distorts science

I think what is hard to picture is how gravity distorts empty space

Obviously, it is not empty even though we can detect nothing there.

 

[Anomalism]

Anyone can measure, quantify, and demonstrate the properties of gravity, to the point that middle schoolers can demonstrate them and do the math.

Your extremely poor and droll attempt at trying to mock the debunkers of your idiotic globalclimatecoolerwarmeringchange hoax has flopped.

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Middle schoolers can drop things and do some math, but what they’re actually measuring is falling objects, not gravity itself. How do you separate the effect from the assumption that gravity exists in the first place? And if it’s so measurable, why do scientists still argue about its true nature, curvature of spacetime, and reconciling it with quantum mechanics? You're just parroting what you've been programmed to believe.

 

[Oddball]

Middle schoolers can drop things and do some math, but what they’re actually measuring is falling objects, not gravity itself. How do you separate the effect from the assumption that gravity exists in the first place? And if it’s so measurable, why do scientists still argue about its true nature, curvature of spacetime, and reconciling it with quantum mechanics? You're just parroting what you've been programmed to believe.

My ******* God, are you one obtuse sumbitch.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Anomalism]

My ******* God, are you one obtuse sumbitch.

That's not an argument. You're reacting emotionally because you can't reconcile what I said.

Gravity is a scam.

 

[Anomalism]

Do you have an actual argument for why I should accept the consensus that gravity exists? Consensus isn't science.

 

[Oddball]

That's not an argument. You're reacting emotionally because you can't reconcile what I said.

Gravity is a scam.

You're right, it's not a reasoned argument that would pass muster in a structured debate.

It is, however, true....You ARE an obtuse sumbitch.

 

[Anomalism]

You're right, it's not a reasoned argument that would pass muster in a structured debate.

It is, however, true....You ARE an obtuse sumbitch.

So you can't actually explain it? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? What are your credentials?

This isn't science; it's faith. Belief in gravity is a religion.

 

[MisterBeale]

Do you have an actual argument for why I should accept the consensus that gravity exists? Consensus isn't science.

Honestly? This thread is a complete train wreck IMO.

For well over a hundred years smug scientists and the establishment was absolutely sure about the nature of gravity, and then Einstein comes and turns it all over.

That you do not get the fundamental irony of your thread is shocking to me. I thought you were smarter than this.

 

[Lockback]

Every physicist on Earth claims gravity exists. They all say the same thing. That's not science, that's groupthink. Consensus isn't evidence.

Who funds gravity research? Governments and universities. Who benefits? Physicists who build careers and get grants by "studying" gravity. Follow the money.

Have you ever actually SEEN gravity? No. You've seen things fall. That's correlation, not causation. Nobody has ever directly observed a gravitational force. These people operate on faith.
Use your eyes. Does spacetime LOOK curved to you?

Newton's laws were written over 300 years ago. Science has moved on since then. Why are we still trusting theories from the 1700s? Then Einstein comes along and completely changes the story. First gravity is a force, now it's "curved spacetime." Which is it? They can't even keep their models consistent.

And spacetime itself is just a mathematical construct. You can't bend math. That's not physics, that's metaphysics. They still can't fully reconcile gravity with quantum mechanics. Their own models are incomplete. But we're supposed to trust them completely?

If gravity is real, why doesn't it work in space? Astronauts float. Planets don't fall into the Sun. Seems selective. They say gravity is constant, but a feather and a bowling ball fall at different speeds. That's not even internally consistent.

Funny how gravity only exists when you're on Earth, but disappears when it's inconvenient.
There are physicists who question general relativity. You never hear about them. Why do you think that is? The establishment doesn't tolerate dissent.

They call it the "theory" of gravity. Theory. Not law. Not fact. By their own admission, it's not proven.
Galileo was persecuted for questioning the scientific consensus of his time. Now dissenters are being attacked for doing the same thing. Interesting.

The scientific establishment has been wrong before. Phlogiston. Luminiferous ether. Miasma theory. But sure, THIS time they've definitely got it right.

At what point do we admit this is just an unproven theory propped up by institutions and social pressure? I'm not claiming to have all the answers. I'm just asking questions. If the theory is solid, why are they so threatened by scrutiny?e

For somebody who thinks they're really smart, you embarrassed yourself with this dreck.

 

[Anomalism]

Honestly? This thread is a complete train wreck IMO.

For well over a hundred years smug scientists and the establishment was absolutely sure about the nature of gravity, and then Einstein comes and turns it all over.

That you do not get the fundamental irony of your thread is shocking to me. I thought you were smarter than this.

Exactly. They keep changing their story. I could show you a hundred examples of where "the science" contradicted itself. Frauds.

Use your head. You've been programmed to believe gravity is real.

 

[Anomalism]

For somebody who thinks they're really smart, you embarrassed yourself with this dreck.

That's not an argument. Prove gravity exists. You can't, because it doesn't.

 

[Oddball]

And banal, tremendously banal...

 

[Anomalism]

And banal, tremendously banal...

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So NOBODY can provide an argument for why gravity actually exists, yet you all accept it on faith anyway.

Interesting...

Like I said, this is a religion.