Tim Walz Accused Of Stolen Valor By Other Members Of His Unit

[Lakhota]

J.D. Vance's 'Stolen Valor' Claim Against Tim Walz Is Total B.S.

J.D. Vance falsely accused Tim Walz of stolen valor, faking combat experience, and dodging a deployment to Iraq by retiring from the National Guard.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[Lakhota]

Right-Wingers Are Using A Really Weird Line Of Attack On Tim Walz

Voters have repeatedly signaled that this is not a winning electoral strategy.

www.huffpost.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

Lots of people didn't want to serve in Vietnam. The left worked so hard trying to convice them that there was no way a weak-ass country like the United States could ever defeat North Vietnam, and also that it would be morally wrong to do so, because the North Vietnam system of totalitarian socialism was far superior to our freedom, democracy, and capitalism.

Not a fan of the draft anyway, so I don't fault someone for getting out of it.

I could even forgive Walz for quitting on his unit because they were about to be deployed. He's a Democrat after all. Better than if he had gone with them and showed the white feather during a battle and gotten them killed.

But to do that then use "Retired Sergeant Major" in your campaign is as bad as John Kerry lying to get Purple Hearts in Vietnam so he could get out of their and then making that his campaign talking point.

 

[daveman]

Walz was supposed to be the counter to Vance's marine years.

If only they could have found a leftist with military experience who didn't have to lie about it.

 

[daveman]

Uhm...okay.

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This thread is about what a piece of crap Walz is. Why are you desperately trying to distract from that?

 

[daveman]

Laugh past the graveyard if you wish

But embellishing a military service records is a serious offense

Not to Democrats.

 

[Dante]

This thread is about what a piece of crap Walz is. Why are you desperately trying to distract from that?

The thread is based on lies?

 

[daveman]

What lie?

He lied about his rank and he quit when his unit was about to be deployed. Cowardly.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If only they could have found a leftist with military experience who didn't have to lie about it.

I know, right? Every time they claim they found one, and we believe it, it turns out to be this dude, or John Three-Fake-Purple-Hearts Kerry.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He lied about his rank and he quit when his unit was about to be deployed. Cowardly.

Nope, especially that last part.

His unit did not leave for Iraq till March of 2006, long after he was retired.

The unit did not receive their orders till July of 2005, again after he was retired.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/poli...rst mobilized in,during US operations in Iraq.

 

[Dante]

Walz has said he has “an honorable record” — and other service members who led the same battalion have defended him.

“He was a great soldier,” Joseph Eustice, who served 32 years in the National Guard, told the Star Tribune in 2022.

“When he chose to leave, he had every right to leave,” added Eustice, who indicated that other attacks on Walz’s record may have been made by disgruntled soldiers who were passed up for promotions.

Another National Guard member who served under Walz said that the future US lawmaker was eyeing a run for Congress earlier than 2005.

“Would the soldier look down on him because he didn’t go with us? Would the common soldier say, ‘Hey, he didn’t go with us, he’s trying to skip out on a deployment?’ And he wasn’t,” Al Bonnifield recalled to Minnesota Public Radio of Walz’s concerns about dipping out before the deployment to Iraq.

“He talked with us for quite a while on that subject. He weighed that decision to run for Congress very heavy [sic],” Bonnifeld added. “He loved the military, he loved the guard, he loved the soldiers he worked with.”

“We all do what we can. I’m proud I did 24 years,” Walz has said about his service.

Walz joined the National Guard after high school and had served in the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery before his retirement, where he obtained the rank of command sergeant major.

During his subsequent tenure in Congress, Walz came out in opposition against then-President George W. Bush’s plans to increase troop levels in Iraq.

Where did Walz serve, and what did he do in the National Guard?​

During his service, Walz responded to natural disasters, including floods and tornadoes in Minnesota and Nebraska, and was deployed overseas for months at a time, according to MPR.

In 2003, he was sent to Italy, where he served with the European Security Force to support the war in Afghanistan. He was also stationed in Norway for joint training with other NATO militaries.

Walz told MPR that he reenlisted in the National Guard after the September 11 attacks but never saw active combat in his years in the military.

Stars and Stripes reported in 2020 that Walz credited his Army experience with helping him steer Minnesota through the COVID-19 pandemic as governor.

As governor of Minnesota, Walz is commander in chief of the 13,000-soldier Minnesota National Guard. “I’m certainly proud of my military service, but it’s one piece of me,” he told Minnesota Public Radio in 2018. “It doesn’t define me.”

 

[daveman]

Israel is an apartheid colonial state. It won't last.

I wish you Stormfront retards wouldn't bring your irrational hatred of Jews into every thread.

 

[daveman]

Nope, especially that last part.

His unit did not leave for Iraq till March of 2006, long after he was retired.

The unit did not receive their orders till July of 2005, again after he was retired.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/poli...rst mobilized in,during US operations in Iraq.

Then I retract. Still doesn't excuse his lying about his rank.

 

[Dante]

He lied about his rank and he quit when his unit was about to be deployed. Cowardly.

Nope.

Right-wing media are reviving old smears pushed by political rivals of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz about his retirement from the military, accusing him of “stolen valor” and misleading their audience about the reality of his 24-year service record with the National Guard. Specifically, right-wing media are claiming that Walz resigned and “abandoned” his National Guard unit and resigned after the unit received deployment orders to go to Iraq when in reality, Walz resigned two months before the unit received orders, and Walz likely submitted his retirement papers even earlier.


According to a copy of his service record obtained by Military.com, Walz enlisted in the Army National Guard in 1981 and reached the rank of command sergeant major before retiring in 2005, following a reenlistment after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks. Walz retired honorably as a master sergeant — a lower rank than command sergeant major — since he did not complete all of the necessary coursework for the higher rank before his service ended. Walz went on to successfully campaign for Congress, where he served for multiple terms, helping veterans exposed to toxins during their military service, sponsoring a veterans suicide prevention bill, and advocating for more GI Bill benefits.


During Walz’s 2018 gubernatorial campaign, retired Command Sgts. Maj. Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr wrote a “paid endorsement letter” just days before the election accusing Walz of “abandon[ing]” his unit in order to run for Congress. Specifically, they claimed that he retired in mid-2005 to dodge a unit deployment to Iraq the following year. This smear was repeated by Walz’s gubernatorial opponent in October 2022.

Right-wing media push old debunked smear of Walz’s military record despite his 24 years of service

www.mediamatters.org

 

[daveman]

J.D. Vance's 'Stolen Valor' Claim Against Tim Walz Is Total B.S.

J.D. Vance falsely accused Tim Walz of stolen valor, faking combat experience, and dodging a deployment to Iraq by retiring from the National Guard.

www.rollingstone.com

Rolling Stone?

 

[Dante]

Then I retract. Still doesn't excuse his lying about his rank.

He did not ever lie about his rank. Do some research.

 

[Dante]

Rolling Stone?

Shoot the messenger? Try and refute a point. Try.

 

[daveman]

The thread is based on lies?

Yes, you've been doing a lot of that.

 

[Dante]

the stench of desperation coming out of Trump campaign:

The strategy, which Trump amplified Wednesday by calling Walz a “DISGRACE” on Truth Social, is a throwback to 2004, when Republicans attacked Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry’s record as a Navy officer in Vietnam. Chris LaCivita — who was a consultant to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that helped sink Kerry’s bid — is a senior adviser to Trump’s campaign and has signaled an eagerness to reopen the playbook on Walz.

Republicans start attacking Walz by going after his military record

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is homing in on what advisers see as a potential liability for Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz: his departure from the Army National Guard two decades ago.

www.yahoo.com

Walz has faced such attacks before, including in his re-election campaign in 2022, when his GOP opponent questioned his decision to leave the service in 2005. Walz’s campaign responded with a letter signed by 50 veterans praising his record and leadership.

“Governor Walz secured additional funding for new veterans homes,” read the letter, a copy of which the Harris campaign shared Wednesday with NBC News. “In his first term, Minnesota was one of just seven states initially selected by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to participate in the ‘Governor’s Challenge’ to eliminate veteran deaths by suicide.”

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Defamation by gatewaypundit yet again.

The editors and paper need to be in court.

He held the rank, albeit conditionally, he still held it..and he's never claimed to have passed the command course. If highest rank held is the question, then Command Sgt. Major is the answer. A brevet or conditional rank held counts.

LOL..I thought that his DUI would be the first line of attack!