Those ancient Egyptians were "nuts"

[NYcarbineer]

Someone asked an Egyptian antiquities expert about Carson's 'theory' of the pyramids being grain bins,

and he said the question didn't deserve an answer.

zing!

 

[bodecea]

Really, those ancient Egyptians must have either been nuts or have had a weird sense of humor (at least according to that renowned Egyptologist, Dr. Ben Carson) when placing dead bodies next to their food source.

What are you saying? Egyptians were so smart that they knew better than to do something like that? Is it possible that they didn't know better considering that they didn't know how diseases were spread back then.

 

[bodecea]

Someone asked an Egyptian antiquities expert about Carson's 'theory' of the pyramids being grain bins,

and he said the question didn't deserve an answer.

zing!

Ah...obviously in on the whole Leftwing Academic Conspiracy thing.

 

[bodecea]

well, there have been no mummified bodies found within the pyramid tombs so we still do not know for a fact, what the pyramids were used for...

We'll figure it out eventually, but for now it is only an unproven theory based on strong circumstantial evidence.

Has NOTHING to do with tomb robbers.

 

[bodecea]

What are you saying? Egyptians were so smart that they knew better than to do something like that? Is it possible that they didn't know better considering that they didn't know how diseases were spread back then.

Considering the fact that humans have buried the dead going back to prehistoric times, that kinda supports the premise that ancient people knew well enough to dispose of dead bodies. And let us not forget that we're talking about the culture that invented mummification.

Ancient Egypt was the world's first civilization, and was the greatest of the early independent civilizations. The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with cleanliness. Men shaved their entire bodies just for the sake of cleanliness. They invented perfumes and scented lotions to fend off unpleasant body odors. The Egyptians were probably the inventors of circumcision, which was also a cleanliness custom. Egyptian doctors were the best in the world, revered for their skill and knowledge. They were knowledgeable enough to employ honey, copper, and bread mold as anti-infection agents.

Also compare the practices of other ancient peoples of the region. The Jewish bible refers to dead human bodies as being unclean. Their scriptures prohibit contact with dead human bodies during certain holy times. The vow of the Nazarite prohibits being in the general vicinity of dead bodies altogether, and requires a cleansing ritual if someone should suddenly fall dead when you're standing next to them.

So yeah, I kinda think that the ancient Egyptians, being the greatest and most cultured civilization of the ancient world, were smart enough to not bury dead people in their food storage facilities.

Sumaria came before Ancient Egypt.

 

[bodecea]

Really, those ancient Egyptians must have either been nuts or have had a weird sense of humor (at least according to that renowned Egyptologist, Dr. Ben Carson) when placing dead bodies next to their food source.

No dead bodies were found in any of the pyramids at Giza. We have been over this, you just keep rehashing the BS.

Nothing to do with grave robbers......

 

[NYcarbineer]

And what Carson stated pyramids might have been used for matters because?

Because it speaks to his judgement and critical thinking ability.

And that matters a great deal.

It's amazing this actually has to be explained to you and the others.

It is amazing that I have to explain to you and others that this is irrelevant and means nothing. That if you really want to examine his critical thinking skills and judgement we would be discussing his POLICIES and why they are good/bad. Instead we have hit jobs centered around the 5 second media clip that people salivate over.

I also cant believe that you, of all people here, are falling for this overused and asinine political 'discourse' (and that uses the phrase VERY loosely).

You really think good judgment leads one to believe a religious myth about the pyramids with no meaningful evidence to support it as fact?

 

[Political Junky]

An Egyptian expert said that Carson's comment wasn't worthy of a comment.

 

[bodecea]

Was any grain found in any of them?

I don't think they were for grain storage but that idea has been around for a very long time. What is the purpose, if a tomb, for the large open rooms, at least in the Great Pyramid? Grain could have been eaten by rodents, if there were actually grain in them, which I doubt. But then again the Great Pyramid wasn't a tomb.

Of course it was. Gigantic pile of stone, only one room to speak of, coffin shaped box, there could be no other use. The place was robbed in antiquity, stripped of it's limestone and gold covering along with everything of value including the mummies which were ground up and used for medicine as recently as the 19th century. You didn't even have an opinion on this until a few days ago so quit acting as if it is an informed opinion.

Depends on the Pyramid............and the time frame......I'm no expert at all......but I did some reading on it the other day to see where Carson might get his opinion..............

The sun doesn't shine in the place he got his opinion, you might need to bring along a miner's helmet light in your study of the intellectual content of his rectal cavity.

Whatever.................I read to get an understanding of why he would have that theory.............he used Genesis and the story of Joseph to come to a Hypothesis of pyramids storing food..........The only Pyramid I've seen so far that MIGHT have done so was the Step Pyramids.........don't see Giza doing so.......................

3 and a 1/2 miles of tunnels dug out so far.............You could store quite a bit in those tunnels.........7 years worth...............don't have a clue..................

Step Pyramids came first.

 

[bodecea]

Pyramids were built in 2560 bc
Abraham 2085 BC
Joseph 1898

I haven't been following this thread. but when Joseph stored the grain, I don't think it was in the pyramids

I saw those dates as well...............but some theorize that the timeline of Joseph was possibly during the Step Pyramid............time frame.

Nope.

 

[bodecea]

Really, those ancient Egyptians must have either been nuts or have had a weird sense of humor (at least according to that renowned Egyptologist, Dr. Ben Carson) when placing dead bodies next to their food source.

How about you learning some facts yourself before you put down Dr. Ben?

http://www.scottcreighton.co.uk/PDF-Files/Ten Facts that Contradict the Pyramid Tomb Theory.pdf

For the best part of 200 years, the pyramids of Egypt have been regarded by

Egyptologists as the tombs of ancient Egyptian kings and queens and as the

instrument of rebirth (for the king only) that would enable the transfiguration of the

soul into an Akh (an effective being of light) whereupon it could pass through the

Duat (the Underworld) and hopefully onwards into an undisturbed, everlasting


Afterlife among the gods. The idea that these structures were conceived and built as

tombs is all pervasive to our modern mindset, so much so that many have come to

accept the idea as being not so much a theory but as actual fact.

So why then should it be deemed necessary to question what many regard as fact?

The first thing to say is that the evidence in support of the tomb theory is only

circumstantial; there is no direct primary evidence to support the pyramid tomb

theory. Neither are there any ancient Egyptian texts that state why the ancient

Egyptians conceived and built their pyramids. Indeed, there are a number of ancient

texts that state the pyramids were not used as tombs. For example, first century BC


historian, Diodorus Siculus, writes:

“The kings designed these pyramids for their sepulchres, yet it happened that

their remains were not here deposited.”

"Describing the Great Pyramids and the hatred their builders supposedly

attracted to themselves, Diodorus follows the tradition of Herodotus; he adds,

however, that their bodies were never buried in them, but rather that the

rulers commanded that their bodies be placed in a secure place that was kept

secret." (C. Zivie-Coche 2002 (1997): 102)

However, even in the absence of any direct evidence, Egyptology has made a

considerable case based solely on the circumstantial evidence it has uncovered (much

from later times) in support of the pyramid tomb theory. But just how strong is their

case? What, if anything, is there that might cast doubt on the Egyptologists’

interpretation of the evidence that brought them to conclude that all pyramids in

ancient Egypt were conceived and built as tombs?

This article will present ten facts that, whilst not conclusively disproving the tomb

theory, nonetheless raise some vexing questions as to the veracity of the pyramid

tomb theory. These facts are presented in no particular order and arise from a number

of sources that include the physical, logistical, practical, functional and mythical.

So you're quoting a wackadoo to support Carson now? Really? The bozo thinks the pyramids are a doomsday clock.

You aren't exactly disproving the theory that Carson and his supporters are idiots.

Not so much him, but as the fact that no bodies have been found in the Egyptian Pyramids and the quote from the historian, Diodorus Siculus.

Why do you ignore the generally accepted fact that tomb robbers took everything....that's why they went from pyramids to the Valley of the Kings.

 

[bodecea]

Where the hell do you think they found King Tut?

There have been quite a few mummified people found in burial vaults in the pyramids. Where they hell did you get the idea that no bodies have ever been found in them?

Oh... yeah ... Fox News.

Sometimes I think that for right wingers there IS a different reality-universe.

But, but so many were empty! How do we explain that? It's possible Carson does not belong in an asylum.

Tomb Robbers over the millennium....geesh, people....

 

[bodecea]

Really, those ancient Egyptians must have either been nuts or have had a weird sense of humor (at least according to that renowned Egyptologist, Dr. Ben Carson) when placing dead bodies next to their food source.

They have never found a mummy in the Pyramids. In fact, there are even inscriptions that specify the pyramids were not for burial. They just have never found what they said they were for..

OMIGOD!!!!

 

[Carla_Danger]

 

[amrchaos]

Maybe the pyramids were structures for a Great city?

It would allow for each pyramid to have a potential different purose. However, why do they truly exist is a bit baffling. I doubt the Egyptians built them to show the world how great they were.

Romans had an ego twice as large as the Greeks and Egyptians, yet their greatest structures had practical usage. Then again, the Romans had a deeper appreciation for the practical than the Greeks or Egyptians.

 

[Care4all]

well, there have been no mummified bodies found within the pyramid tombs so we still do not know for a fact, what the pyramids were used for...

We'll figure it out eventually, but for now it is only an unproven theory based on strong circumstantial evidence.

Has NOTHING to do with tomb robbers.

see, that is what had been thought, that perhaps the tomb robbers of the gold and jewels and artifacts, must have stolen the mummified bodies as well..., though that truly makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for a second or two....

The robbers didn't want or need the bodies....could get no money for the mummies and the mummies would identify themselves as being the tomb robbers among many other things....so, tomb robbers were not really after the mummies, they were after the riches in the tombs.

ALSO, and MOST important in leading Egyptologists to now say, they truly are not certain if the Pyramids were built to bury the Kings/Pharaohs....

is that they have found a few tombs now in Pyramids that had not been robbed or disturbed at all, and the caskets have also been empty....with no bodies or mummified bodies.

Soooo, they no longer can say with any kind of certainty, that the pyramids were to bury the Kings in.... though some Egyptians believe that the Pharaohs were buried there, but followed the Book of the Dead, and crossed over in to the afterlife, thus why no bodies have been found!

(NONE have suggested that they were used for grain storage as Carson, that I have read on it)

 

[amrchaos]

well, there have been no mummified bodies found within the pyramid tombs so we still do not know for a fact, what the pyramids were used for...

We'll figure it out eventually, but for now it is only an unproven theory based on strong circumstantial evidence.

Has NOTHING to do with tomb robbers.

see, that is what had been thought, that perhaps the tomb robbers of the gold and jewels and artifacts, must have stolen the mummified bodies as well..., though that truly makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for a second or two....

The robbers didn't want or need the bodies....could get no money for the mummies and the mummies would identify themselves as being the tomb robbers among many other things....so, tomb robbers were not really after the mummies, they were after the riches in the tombs.

ALSO, and MOST important in leading Egyptologists to now say, they truly are not certain if the Pyramids were built to bury the Kings/Pharaohs....

is that they have found a few tombs now in Pyramids that had not been robbed or disturbed at all, and the caskets have also been empty....with no bodies or mummified bodies.

Soooo, they no longer can say with any kind of certainty, that the pyramids were to bury the Kings in.... though some Egyptians believe that the Pharaohs were buried there, but followed the Book of the Dead, and crossed over in to the afterlife, thus why no bodies have been found!

(NONE have suggested that they were used for grain storage as Carson, that I have read on it)

Not unless the tomb robbers thought the mummies had treasures on them. The tomb raiders could have taken the mummies to strip them.

Of course, this is speculation as well.

 

[bodecea]

well, there have been no mummified bodies found within the pyramid tombs so we still do not know for a fact, what the pyramids were used for...

We'll figure it out eventually, but for now it is only an unproven theory based on strong circumstantial evidence.

Has NOTHING to do with tomb robbers.

see, that is what had been thought, that perhaps the tomb robbers of the gold and jewels and artifacts, must have stolen the mummified bodies as well..., though that truly makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for a second or two....

The robbers didn't want or need the bodies....could get no money for the mummies and the mummies would identify themselves as being the tomb robbers among many other things....so, tomb robbers were not really after the mummies, they were after the riches in the tombs.

ALSO, and MOST important in leading Egyptologists to now say, they truly are not certain if the Pyramids were built to bury the Kings/Pharaohs....

is that they have found a few tombs now in Pyramids that had not been robbed or disturbed at all, and the caskets have also been empty....with no bodies or mummified bodies.

Soooo, they no longer can say with any kind of certainty, that the pyramids were to bury the Kings in.... though some Egyptians believe that the Pharaohs were buried there, but followed the Book of the Dead, and crossed over in to the afterlife, thus why no bodies have been found!

(NONE have suggested that they were used for grain storage as Carson, that I have read on it)

Not unless the tomb robbers thought the mummies had treasures on them. The tomb raiders could have taken the mummies to strip them.

Of course, this is speculation as well.

Plus ground mummy was considered a medicine. And if you dump the body away from the tomb...well, you are less likely to get a ka coming after you.

 

[Katzndogz]

well, there have been no mummified bodies found within the pyramid tombs so we still do not know for a fact, what the pyramids were used for...

We'll figure it out eventually, but for now it is only an unproven theory based on strong circumstantial evidence.

Has NOTHING to do with tomb robbers.

see, that is what had been thought, that perhaps the tomb robbers of the gold and jewels and artifacts, must have stolen the mummified bodies as well..., though that truly makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for a second or two....

The robbers didn't want or need the bodies....could get no money for the mummies and the mummies would identify themselves as being the tomb robbers among many other things....so, tomb robbers were not really after the mummies, they were after the riches in the tombs.

ALSO, and MOST important in leading Egyptologists to now say, they truly are not certain if the Pyramids were built to bury the Kings/Pharaohs....

is that they have found a few tombs now in Pyramids that had not been robbed or disturbed at all, and the caskets have also been empty....with no bodies or mummified bodies.

Soooo, they no longer can say with any kind of certainty, that the pyramids were to bury the Kings in.... though some Egyptians believe that the Pharaohs were buried there, but followed the Book of the Dead, and crossed over in to the afterlife, thus why no bodies have been found!

(NONE have suggested that they were used for grain storage as Carson, that I have read on it)

Not unless the tomb robbers thought the mummies had treasures on them. The tomb raiders could have taken the mummies to strip them.

Of course, this is speculation as well.

No it isn't. Mummies quite frequently had favorite items of jewelry in the wrappings.

 

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