This Nation Is An Illegitimate Bastard...

[bripat9643]

That's your interpretation. People often overlook the term "well regulated militia", the term "regulated" being the most important. Look I do not care if you have hand guns or shot guns, but there is no need for people to have AK-47s or AR15s.

In those days the term "well regulated" means "well drilled" or "well trained."

I love it when dumbfucks like you try flaunt your superior knowledge. You just make yourself look like a pretentious jackass.

 

[bripat9643]

underequipped and against all odds, Robert E. Lee & Co very nearly pulled it off...

Yes...but they didn't....did they?

And, 600,000 people had to die and half the country was laid waste because of their secessionist fantasies.

That happened because Lincoln was a bloodthirsty tyrant.

 

[Unkotare]

Many of the best people are bastards...

Davinci, Thomas Paine and Alexander Hamilton were all bastards.

Do you think it a problem that today it is almost the norm?

 

[Unkotare]

underequipped and against all odds, Robert E. Lee & Co very nearly pulled it off...

Yes...but they didn't....did they?

And, 600,000 people had to die and half the country was laid waste because of their secessionist fantasies.

That happened because Lincoln was a bloodthirsty tyrant.

Lincoln was a hero who preserved our Union so that you would be free to type that crap today. That war, and many that followed it, is OVER. Move on and be grateful.

 

[Staidhup]

Well Jefferson did believe in tearing up the constitution every 20 years and allowing each generation to determine their political destiny... But that would actually require knowledge of history which most of the people who cite "the founding fathers" in conversation have very little notion of.

What is you're supporting document and in what context was it written? Was it not the establishment of three branches of government to insure against tyrannical rule? Under what circumstances did he advocate as justification for such action?

 

[CrazedScotsman]

The 2nd Amendment

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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Com-ma n.
1. Grammar A punctuation mark ( , ) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.
2. A pause or separation; a caesura.
3. Any of several butterflies of the genus Polygonia, having wings with brownish coloring and irregularly notched edges.

Second definition (Comma)
1. (Communication Arts / Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) the punctuation mark, indicating a slight pause in the spoken sentence and used where there is a listing of items or to separate a nonrestrictive clause or phrase from a main clause
2. (Music, other) Music a minute interval
3. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Animals) short for comma butterfly
[from Latin, from Greek komma clause, from kopteinto cut]

 

[bayoubill]

The 2nd Amendment

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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Com-ma n.
1. Grammar A punctuation mark ( , ) used to indicate a separation of ideas or of elements within the structure of a sentence.
2. A pause or separation; a caesura.
3. Any of several butterflies of the genus Polygonia, having wings with brownish coloring and irregularly notched edges.

Second definition (Comma)
1. (Communication Arts / Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) the punctuation mark, indicating a slight pause in the spoken sentence and used where there is a listing of items or to separate a nonrestrictive clause or phrase from a main clause
2. (Music, other) Music a minute interval
3. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Animals) short for comma butterfly
[from Latin, from Greek komma clause, from kopteinto cut]

The version that was ratified by the states, and thus has standing in any discussion, reads like this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

 

[BallsBrunswick]

Well Jefferson did believe in tearing up the constitution every 20 years and allowing each generation to determine their political destiny... But that would actually require knowledge of history which most of the people who cite "the founding fathers" in conversation have very little notion of.

What is you're supporting document and in what context was it written? Was it not the establishment of three branches of government to insure against tyrannical rule? Under what circumstances did he advocate as justification for such action?

“…Then I say the earth belongs to each of these generations during its course, fully, and in their own right. The 2nd generation receives it clear of the debts and encumbrances of the 1st, the 3rd, of the 2nd and so on. For if the 1st could charge it with a debt, then the earth would belong to the dead and not the living generation. Then no generation can contract debts greater than may be paid during the course of its own existence. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished them, in their natural course, with those whose will gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself and no longer. Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force and not of right. It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to 19 years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent…” -Thomas Jefferson

This quote was from Jefferson's famous correspondence with James Madison.