This Is Why We Can Never Let Down Our Guard

[mudwhistle]

AOC spells out exactly why Democrats can't be trusted, and why we can never let down our guard.

Democrats get a shellacking but never learn from it.

Why?

Because they cannot fathom that they're wrong or doing something illegal.

They just try to figure out another way to accomplish what they got caught doing.

 

[jbrownson0831]

AOC spells out exactly why Democrats can't be trusted, and why we can never let down our guard.

Democrats get a shellacking but never learn from it.

Why?

Because they cannot fathom that they're wrong or doing something illegal.

They just try to figure out another way to accomplish what they got caught doing.

So no more rape convictions???

 

[mudwhistle]

So no more rape convictions???

The Pentagon has already been caught conspiring to pull something else, and all of these videos of nose-ringers crying on tictoc is just prepping for another planned act of terrorism.

 

[Donald H]

The DemoKKKrats have fallen behind on following the course being set for America, by Trump.

They can never accept Trump's attempt to end the war against Russia with peaceful negotiations.

Since Trump became president the first time, the Dems have took over from the R's as America's war party.

 

[boevans]

AOC may be wrong but not illegal in her surmises.

 

[mudwhistle]

The DemoKKKrats have fallen behind on following the course being set for America, by Trump.

They can never accept Trump's attempt to end the war against Russia with peaceful negotiations.

Since Trump became president the first time, the Dems have took over from the R's as America's war party.

The US is 6 years behind Europe.

They were hoping to have machete welding Muslims roaming our streets by now beating up and killing people.

So they figure they have to continue setting up school shootings and other soft targets to trick people into giving up their guns.

 

[mudwhistle]

AOC may be wrong but not illegal in her surmises.

What she's talking about is unethical and illegal.

They figure if the law gets in their way, they try to go around it, or try to change it.

She doesn't even bother to think of why the law was put in place in the first place.

This is how Marxists think.

 

[JoeB131]

The DemoKKKrats have fallen behind on following the course being set for America, by Trump.

They can never accept Trump's attempt to end the war against Russia with peaceful negotiations.

Since Trump became president the first time, the Dems have took over from the R's as America's war party.

Again, if Trump sells out Ukraine to your Kremlin masters, he will be a disgrace.

 

[toobfreak]

AOC spells out exactly why Democrats can't be trusted, and why we can never let down our guard.
Democrats get a shellacking but never learn from it.

Doesn't sound like AOC understands that she is there to REPRESENT the voting public.
NO means that you have failed what you were hired for.

She was not put there to carry out her own agenda no matter how her constituents complain.
What will AOC say next when voters say NO to her reelection?

 

[otto105]

The DemoKKKrats have fallen behind on following the course being set for America, by Trump.

They can never accept Trump's attempt to end the war against Russia with peaceful negotiations.

Since Trump became president the first time, the Dems have took over from the R's as America's war party.

Hilarious

Sacrificing the people of Ukraine to a dictator is called what.

 

[JoeB131]

Doesn't sound like AOC understands that she is there to REPRESENT the voting public.
NO means that you have failed what you were hired for.

She was not put there to carry out her own agenda no matter how her constituents complain.
What will AOC say next when voters say NO to her reelection?

50.2% isn't a mandate.

Everything Trump is going to try to do needs to be questioned and resisted.

 

[JoeB131]

Hilarious

Sacrificing the people of Ukraine to a dictator is called what.

Fun Fact: Donald is on a Russian Troll Farm.

 

[Donald H]

Again, if Trump sells out Ukraine to your Kremlin masters, he will be a disgrace.

I think you're missing the important point Joe. Trump wants to end the war that he's convinced is America's fault for starting.

But he has to do it in a way that allows him to take credit for standing up for America's interests.

The obvious first answer is the taxpayers' money, but that only answers to half the resistance that will come from the war party. The American people's hate for Russia is a powerful factor, and so Trump could need more than appealing on the money angle. He could turln to the threat of MAD, but rely on his henchman to carry the ball.

But as it goes, the danger for Trump is that he will be interfering in a war that is essential for America to not lose, and so Trump's interference in it could bring unforeseen consequences to Trump.

I don't see the prospect of the US military's power being handed over to Trump in the foreseeable future. Of necessity, they have become the rulling force in America's foreign policy and decisions made will be made by the Generals!

Did you think that Trump would be allowed fo fk everything up?

 

[Donald H]

50.2% isn't a mandate.

Everything Trump is going to try to do needs to be questioned and resisted.

Trump with the Congress in his hip pocket.

This is why it's become so obvious that the military has the American people's backs.
I highly suspect that the military has, in not so many words, told Trump to not fk with foreign policy, or else.

Don't you too?

 

[JoeB131]

I think you're missing the important point Joe. Trump wants to end the war that he's convinced is America's fault for starting.

First, you are giving Trump credit for deeper thought than he's capable of.

The only reason why he wants to sell Ukraine down the river is that he admires Putin and blames Zelenskyy for his first impeachment.

But he has to do it in a way that allows him to take credit for standing up for America's interests.

The obvious first answer is the taxpayers' money, but that only answers to half the resistance that will come from the war party. The American people's hate for Russia is a powerful factor, and so Trump could need more than appealing on the money angle. He could turln to the threat of MAD, but rely on his henchman to carry the ball.

Americans don't hate Russians. We dislike your thug President, but we have no animus towards the Russian people.

But as it goes, the danger for Trump is that he will be interfering in a war that is essential for America to not lose, and so Trump's interference in it could bring unforeseen consequences to Trump.

Or...

Trump will try to stop aid to Ukraine, even though half of his party supports it.

The thing is, neither NATO or Ukraine will (or should) accept any solution that doesn't involve a return to the 2014 borders. Anything else is rewarding aggression.

If Trump tries to force a solution that doesn't involve that, it will destroy America's international credibility.

I don't see the prospect of the US military's power being handed over to Trump in the foreseeable future. Of necessity, they have become the rulling force in America's foreign policy and decisions made will be made by the Generals!

Did you think that Trump would be allowed fo fk everything up?

Well, he certainly fucked things up the last time.

The problem is our system isn't good at dealing with lawbreaking presidents.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump with the Congress in his hip pocket.

This is why it's become so obvious that the military has the American people's backs.
I highly suspect that the military has, in not so many words, told Trump to not fk with foreign policy, or else.

Don't you too?

Except Trump doesn't have Congress in his Hip Pocket. Most of them know he's an idiot.

I am somewhat hopeful that he has appointed Rubio as Secretary of State. Compared to his other picks so far, Rubio is kind of sensible, even though he was one of the people who voted against aid.

I'm less sure about Moscow Tulsi as DNI, though.

But you still have the same problem. Ukraine isn't going to stop fighting, and the rest of NATO won't stop supporting them even if Trump pulls a Neville Chamberlain. .

 

[Donald H]

First, you are giving Trump credit for deeper thought than he's capable of.

I've just finished giving him credit for what he's said on blaming America, and I'm not suggesting anything more, other than him understanding that the money issue has large support.

The only reason why he wants to sell Ukraine down the river is that he admires Putin and blames Zelenskyy for his first impeachment.

Yes, it truly is as basic and as simple as that with The functioning Trump brain. But give some consideration to him doing what is necessary to preserving the American way that he feeds on.

Americans don't hate Russians. We dislike your thug President, but we have no animus towards the Russian people.

I've been judging that question by the spoken sentiments of the members of this forum. We perceive quite differently.

Or...

Trump will try to stop aid to Ukraine, even though half of his party supports it.

I won't try guessing on whether or not Trump can gain enough support to demand an end to the war. In any case, i'm certain that Trump making the wrong move that doesn't suit the military's demands, can't possibly be tolerated.
However, the people may say what can and can't be tolerated. As they did for Comrad Fidel and Comrad Che. Can Trump gain the support of the American people, and thereby restore his support of the military?

The thing is, neither NATO or Ukraine will (or should) accept any solution that doesn't involve a return to the 2014 borders.

Trump is so far not onside with that. This could change. Everything can change with Trump.

Anything else is rewarding aggression.

And so can Trump convince the American people that the aggression is on America's part, as he states.

If Trump tries to force a solution that doesn't involve that, it will destroy America's international credibility.

Yes!! And the real base of power in America will attempt to stop it from happening.

Well, he certainly fucked things up the last time.

The problem is our system isn't good at dealing with lawbreaking presidents.

Yes, and that cuts Trump some slack to go to work on the A people to convince them that the system he intends to throw out is stealing their money and showering it on the Ukraine in the hundreds of billions.

And then he might throw in MAD to make his case?

Or the military will take back democracy? Which do you think is more likely Joe?

 

[Donald H]

Except Trump doesn't have Congress in his Hip Pocket. Most of them know he's an idiot.

He's an idiot of the most dangerous sort, but he's one that the Congress don't have the courage to deny.
But what makes you so confident that Congress doesn't want to end the war too?

Are you thinking that Congress is committed to saving the Ukraine or they're more committed to saving the money that Biden was throwing at the Ukraine?

I am somewhat hopeful that he has appointed Rubio as Secretary of State. Compared to his other picks so far, Rubio is kind of sensible, even though he was one of the people who voted against aid.

Hopeful on Rubio after he has opposed aid to the Ukraine??

I'm less sure about Moscow Tulsi as DNI, though.

IMO Tulsi is the most significant choice Trump has made so far! He's making his intent clear!
Joe please, accept what Trump intends on doing with the war, and then understand that there's only one powerful force that can stop him.

But you still have the same problem. Ukraine isn't going to stop fighting, and the rest of NATO won't stop supporting them even if Trump pulls a Neville Chamberlain. .

Maybe on Europe. If America pulls out it's support then it's over for the Ukraine. Russia will lose any incentive on mutually agreed upon restraint and will quickly eliminate any Ukrainian resistance. And so, the most likely possibility that the US military won't allow Trump to interfere.

You raise some good questions. That's useful for our audience. One of them may start to understand?

 

[JoeB131]

I've just finished giving him credit for what he's said on blaming America, and I'm not suggesting anything more, other than him understanding that the money issue has large support.

Except America isn't to blame, Putin is for invading.

Yes, it truly is as basic and as simple as that with The functioning Trump brain. But give some consideration to him doing what is necessary to preserving the American way that he feeds on.

Trump is a malignant narcissist. My guess is that he's going to have a falling out with Putin once Putin fails to go along with his suggestions.

I've been judging that question by the spoken sentiments of the members of this forum. We perceive quite differently.

I'm sure they all enjoy fucking with the Russian Troll.

I won't try guessing on whether or not Trump can gain enough support to demand an end to the war. In any case, i'm certain that Trump making the wrong move that doesn't suit the military's demands, can't possibly be tolerated.
However, the people may say what can and can't be tolerated. As they did for Comrad Fidel and Comrad Che. Can Trump gain the support of the American people, and thereby restore his support of the military?

Trump will quickly lose support if he sells out Ukraine.

More Americans back continued US support for Ukraine despite politics, poll shows

A recent University of Maryland poll reveals that 62% of Americans sympathize with Ukraine over Russia in the ongoing war.

www.livenowfox.com

Trump is so far not onside with that. This could change. Everything can change with Trump.

Oh, I agree, he will fuck things up, because that's what he does. But if Ukraine is overrun by Russia and we are looking at a new Cold War in Europe, he won't be very popular.

And so can Trump convince the American people that the aggression is on America's part, as he states.

Except it isn't. Putin is the aggressor here. Trump has the delusion that Putin didn't invade because he was so scared of Trump.

Yes!! And the real base of power in America will attempt to stop it from happening.

Which base of power is that? Most Americans support Ukraine.

Yes, and that cuts Trump some slack to go to work on the A people to convince them that the system he intends to throw out is stealing their money and showering it on the Ukraine in the hundreds of billions.

And then he might throw in MAD to make his case?

Or the military will take back democracy? Which do you think is more likely Joe?

What I suspect is going to happen is that in the next few months, it's going to be pretty clear to even Republicans that Trump's brain has turned into putty. Then it will be gut check time if they invoke the 25th Amendment or not.

 

[Couchpotato]

AOC spells out exactly why Democrats can't be trusted, and why we can never let down our guard.

Democrats get a shellacking but never learn from it.

Why?

Because they cannot fathom that they're wrong or doing something illegal.

They just try to figure out another way to accomplish what they got caught doing.

Does this mean no means butt sex?