The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

[Skeptik]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

 

[Oddball]

I've seen this mess before. Some interesting questions arise in the later articles, not the least of which are:

Article 22.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

At whose expense??

Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.

(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

"Equal" and "just and favorable" as defined by whom??

Article 24.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Again, at whose expense?

Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Ibid.

Article 26.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

(1) Ibid.

(2) Aren't education and authoritarian indoctrination two different animals??

Article 27.
(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

Yet again....At whose expense??

Article 29.

(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Translation: We control all "rights" and dispense them to the global proletariat at our leisure. After all, your "rights" cannot interfere with the absolute authority and rule of the U.N.

 

[Gurdari]

All the signatories have violated it... most citizens love it, governments hate having to play by rules. Especially powerful governments... maybe it's time to 'get tough' on international crime?

 

[Munin]

In Western Europe: Yes (improvement if you look at the general evolution), in some other Nations around the world like the US: NO (in the US there were more violations then in the past).

 

[William Joyce]

So the U.N. disapproves of affirmative action? Huh.

 

[Gunny]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

That declaration is only as good as the force that backs it up.

 

[trobinett]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

That declaration is only as good as the force that backs it up.

Got to wonder when exactly the lost left will figure that ONE thing out.

 

[Annie]

All the signatories have violated it... most citizens love it, governments hate having to play by rules. Especially powerful governments... maybe it's time to 'get tough' on international crime?

Maybe 'international law and crime' are something for the dustbin of history? Ya think?

 

[Skeptik]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

That declaration is only as good as the force that backs it up.

That's right. Since no one is able to enforce the declaration of human rights, or any other "international law", that means it is no more than a statement of a goal. It's a lot like Martin Luther King's speech, calling for a time when everyone would be judged on the content of their character. It's an ideal to strive for.

It seems to me that the world is going backward on the goal of achieving the ideals of the declaration of human rights. Do you agree?

 

[Annie]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

That declaration is only as good as the force that backs it up.

Jacksonian lesson writ large.

 

[cbi0090]

It's an interesting excercise to compare this to sharia law.

 

[Gunny]

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights passed sixty years ago, and is being discussed based on the calendar currently.

Are we any closer to having achieved the ideals expressed in that document now than we were sixty years ago? Will we ever be able to even come close?

What do you think?

That declaration is only as good as the force that backs it up.

That's right. Since no one is able to enforce the declaration of human rights, or any other "international law", that means it is no more than a statement of a goal. It's a lot like Martin Luther King's speech, calling for a time when everyone would be judged on the content of their character. It's an ideal to strive for.

It seems to me that the world is going backward on the goal of achieving the ideals of the declaration of human rights. Do you agree?

I don't agree anything is going backwards. I think the "One World Order" idea is crap, and a goal that if actually reached, would be worse than the status quo.

We can't even get the government in DC to actually represent us, nor comprehend problems locally; yet, you want to add another, even more detached layer to the bureaucracy?

No thanks.

 

[manifold]

It's a joke.

Kind of like the "honor" code crap I refused to sign in grad school, much to the chagrin of many.