The U.S. is in serious trouble

[Dante]

The US was in serious trouble when they allowed the Deep State to off JFK and did nothing. IKE warned us this shit would get out of control if we allowed the Deep State to take over.

Now we are reaping the fruits of our apathy.

Ike did not warn us of anything your warped mind creates.

part of your charm is your instability

You spin so well we have Laundromats of America on line 1 wanting to speak with you

 

[Dante]

The closest this country has come to spiraling down the commode was near the end of the disastrous terms of the most recent POTUS for whom you've voted.

More hyperbole and demagoguery from the little Goebbels of the left....

you two assholes need to get a room of your own, with a view of an animal farm

 

[Conservative65]

He lied and you're willing to accept a lie. That he did it in front of a grand jury doesn't change that he perjured himself. He LIED under OATH.

Lying under oath is a crime. It is prosecutable in a criminal court. Has Bill Clinton ever been charged or prosecuted in a criminal court with perjury?

He was impeached and tried by the Senate. Not my fault those Democrat Senators didn't have the guts to do the right thing.

 

[Dante]

GHW Bush was an extension of Reagan.

Uh, no...

You probably took out your frustrations with Reagan on Bush. When Reagan left, he was highly unpopular with many conservatives and especially the right wing. That is a fact

The shit you Communists make up....

There is a public record of comments on Reagan after he left office. leading conservatives and especially right wingers were more than disappointed with his terms in office.

 

[Dante]

He was impeached and tried by the Senate.

President Bill Clinton was never impeached in the Senate. He was tried in the Senate, and acquitted of all charges

 

[Conservative65]

He was impeached and tried by the Senate.

President Bill Clinton was never impeached in the Senate. He was tried in the Senate, and acquitted of all charges

Never said he was impeached in the Senate. When you want to discuss the issues instead of play semantics games, let me know. Doing what you're trying to do makes you a loser.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is a public record of comments on Reagan after he left office. leading conservatives and especially right wingers were more than disappointed with his terms in office.

George Bush called the Reagan economic plan, that rescued the nation from the malaise of Carter, "voodoo economics." No, it wasn't you idiot leftists who came up with that. The two "accomplishments" of Bush were to take the nation to war, and raise taxes.

He was nothing like Reagan.

 

[Uncensored2008]

President Bill Clinton was never impeached in the Senate. He was tried in the Senate, and acquitted of all charges

The Senate doesn't impeach, the House does.

What do you call a democrat who has at least a basic grasp of the Constitution? A Republican...

 

[Dante]

Uncensored2008 Context of '1988: Reagan Abandoned, Mocked by Hardline Conservatives'

Conservative Opposition - Hardline conservatives protest Gorbachev’s visit to Washington, and the signing of the treaty, in the strongest possible terms. When Reagan suggests that Gorbachev address a joint session of Congress, Congressional Republicans, led by House member Dick Cheney (R-WY—see 1983), rebel. Cheney says: “Addressing a joint meeting of Congress is a high honor, one of the highest honors we can accord anyone. Given the fact of continuing Soviet aggression in Afghanistan, Soviet repression in Eastern Europe, and Soviet actions in Africa and Central America, it is totally inappropriate to confer this honor upon Gorbachev. He is an adversary, not an ally.”

Conservative Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Committee is more blunt in his assessment of the treaty agreement: “Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as in clout, and not in a position to make judgments about Gorbachev at this time.”

Conservative pundit William F. Buckley calls the treaty a “suicide pact.” Fellow conservative pundit George Will calls Reagan “wildly wrong” in his dealings with the Soviets. Conservatives gather to bemoan what they call “summit fever,” accusing Reagan of “appeasement” both of communists and of Congressional liberals, and protesting Reagan’s “cutting deals with the evil empire” (see March 8, 1983).

They mount a letter-writing campaign, generating some 300,000 letters, and launch a newspaper ad campaign that compares Reagan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. Senators Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Steven Symms (R-ID) try to undercut the treaty by attempting to add amendments that would make the treaty untenable; Helms will lead a filibuster against the treaty as well.

History Commons

 

[Dante]

President Bill Clinton was never impeached in the Senate. He was tried in the Senate, and acquitted of all charges

The Senate doesn't impeach, the House does.

What do you call a democrat who has at least a basic grasp of the Constitution? A Republican...

Put down the pipe. Dante was replying to somebody, Dante never said the Senate impeaches. Good grief!

 

[Dante]

George Bush called the Reagan economic plan, that rescued the nation from the malaise of Carter, "voodoo economics." No, it wasn't you idiot leftists who came up with that. The two "accomplishments" of Bush were to take the nation to war, and raise taxes.

He was nothing like Reagan.

Then Reagan selected him to be next in line to his own Presidency. And later Bush denied saying those words. Bush was not as accomplished a bullshit artists as Reagan was, but he was later tutored at the feet of a real pro

 

[Uncensored2008]

Put down the pipe. Dante was replying to somebody, Dante never said the Senate impeaches. Good grief!

dainty was spewing retarded bullshit - which is ALL that dainty does.

 

[Dante]

Never said he was impeached in the Senate. When you want to discuss the issues instead of play semantics games, let me know. Doing what you're trying to do makes you a loser.

your words "He was impeached and tried by the Senate." Semantics? You have again misused a term. Is English your first language? I ask in all seriousness.

What is it you 'think' Dante is trying to do?

 

[Dante]

dainty was spewing retarded bullshit - which is ALL that dainty does.

link provided in previous post

Conservative Opposition - Hardline conservatives protest Gorbachev’s visit to Washington, and the signing of the treaty, in the strongest possible terms.

When Reagan suggests that Gorbachev address a joint session of Congress, Congressional Republicans, led by House member Dick Cheney (R-WY—see 1983), rebel. Cheney says: “Addressing a joint meeting of Congress is a high honor, one of the highest honors we can accord anyone. Given the fact of continuing Soviet aggression in Afghanistan, Soviet repression in Eastern Europe, and Soviet actions in Africa and Central America, it is totally inappropriate to confer this honor upon Gorbachev. He is an adversary, not an ally.”

Conservative Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Committee is more blunt in his assessment of the treaty agreement: “Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as in clout, and not in a position to make judgments about Gorbachev at this time.”

Conservative pundit William F. Buckley calls the treaty a “suicide pact.”

Fellow conservative pundit George Will calls Reagan “wildly wrong” in his dealings with the Soviets. Conservatives gather to bemoan what they call “summit fever,” accusing Reagan of “appeasement” both of communists and of Congressional liberals, and protesting Reagan’s “cutting deals with the evil empire” (see March 8, 1983).

They mount a letter-writing campaign, generating some 300,000 letters, and launch a newspaper ad campaign that compares Reagan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. Senators Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Steven Symms (R-ID) try to undercut the treaty by attempting to add amendments that would make the treaty untenable; Helms will lead a filibuster against the treaty as well.

 

[Uncensored2008]

dainty was spewing retarded bullshit - which is ALL that dainty does.

link provided in previous post

Conservative Opposition - Hardline conservatives protest Gorbachev’s visit to Washington, and the signing of the treaty, in the strongest possible terms.

When Reagan suggests that Gorbachev address a joint session of Congress, Congressional Republicans, led by House member Dick Cheney (R-WY—see 1983), rebel. Cheney says: “Addressing a joint meeting of Congress is a high honor, one of the highest honors we can accord anyone. Given the fact of continuing Soviet aggression in Afghanistan, Soviet repression in Eastern Europe, and Soviet actions in Africa and Central America, it is totally inappropriate to confer this honor upon Gorbachev. He is an adversary, not an ally.”

Conservative Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Committee is more blunt in his assessment of the treaty agreement: “Reagan is a weakened president, weakened in spirit as well as in clout, and not in a position to make judgments about Gorbachev at this time.”

Conservative pundit William F. Buckley calls the treaty a “suicide pact.”

Fellow conservative pundit George Will calls Reagan “wildly wrong” in his dealings with the Soviets. Conservatives gather to bemoan what they call “summit fever,” accusing Reagan of “appeasement” both of communists and of Congressional liberals, and protesting Reagan’s “cutting deals with the evil empire” (see March 8, 1983).

They mount a letter-writing campaign, generating some 300,000 letters, and launch a newspaper ad campaign that compares Reagan to former British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. Senators Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Steven Symms (R-ID) try to undercut the treaty by attempting to add amendments that would make the treaty untenable; Helms will lead a filibuster against the treaty as well.

Unlike you Communists, the right is known for criticizing the programs of their own. Does this mean that "all conservatives hated Reagan?"

 

[Dante]

Unlike you Communists, the right is known for criticizing the programs of their own. Does this mean that "all conservatives hated Reagan?"

The right is known for eating it;s own.

No one said ALL conservatives hated Reagan. As a matter of fact I don't believe Dante wrote 'hated' so are you projecting again? Hating is a right wing family value.

 

[Conservative65]

He was impeached and tried by the Senate.

President Bill Clinton was never impeached in the Senate. He was tried in the Senate, and acquitted of all charges

Still playing semanitcs, puss?

 

[Conservative65]

Unlike you Communists, the right is known for criticizing the programs of their own. Does this mean that "all conservatives hated Reagan?"

The right is known for eating it;s own.

No one said ALL conservatives hated Reagan. As a matter of fact I don't believe Dante wrote 'hated' so are you projecting again? Hating is a right wing family value.

Does that mean you're known for kissing a black President's ass? Pucker up.

 

[Conservative65]

Never said he was impeached in the Senate. When you want to discuss the issues instead of play semantics games, let me know. Doing what you're trying to do makes you a loser.

your words "He was impeached and tried by the Senate." Semantics? You have again misused a term. Is English your first language? I ask in all seriousness.

What is it you 'think' Dante is trying to do?

Should I have said then tried in the Senate? Would that make it easier for a dumb motherfucker like you to understand what I was saying? Do I have to make that easy for you boy?

 

[MisterBeale]

The US was in serious trouble when they allowed the Deep State to off JFK and did nothing. IKE warned us this shit would get out of control if we allowed the Deep State to take over.

Now we are reaping the fruits of our apathy.

Ike did not warn us of anything your warped mind creates.

part of your charm is your instability

You spin so well we have Laundromats of America on line 1 wanting to speak with you

The "Deep State" - How Much Does It Explain?
The ''Deep State'' - How Much Does It Explain?

Everyone knows about the military-industrial complex, which, in his farewell address, President Eisenhower warned had the potential to “endanger our liberties or democratic process” but have you heard of the “Deep State?”

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As the indemnification vote showed, the Deep State does not consist only of government agencies. What is euphemistically called “private enterprise” is an integral part of its operations. In a special series in The Washington Post called “Top Secret America,” Dana Priest and William K. Arkin described the scope of the privatized Deep State and the degree to which it has metastasized after the September 11 attacks. There are now 854,000 contract personnel with top-secret clearances — a number greater than that of top-secret-cleared civilian employees of the government. While they work throughout the country and the world, their heavy concentration in and around the Washington suburbs is unmistakable: Since 9/11, 33 facilities for top-secret intelligence have been built or are under construction. Combined, they occupy the floor space of almost three Pentagons — about 17 million square feet. Seventy percent of the intelligence community’s budget goes to paying contracts. And the membrane between government and industry is highly permeable: The Director of National Intelligence, James R. Clapper, is a former executive of Booz Allen Hamilton, one of the government’s largest intelligence contractors. His predecessor as director, Admiral Mike McConnell, is the current vice chairman of the same company; Booz Allen is 99 percent dependent on government business. These contractors now set the political and social tone of Washington, just as they are increasingly setting the direction of the country, but they are doing it quietly, their doings unrecorded in the Congressional Record or the Federal Register, and are rarely subject to congressional hearings.


Washington is the most important node of the Deep State that has taken over America, but it is not the only one. Invisible threads of money and ambition connect the town to other nodes. One is Wall Street, which supplies the cash that keeps the political machine quiescent and operating as a diversionary marionette theater. Should the politicians forget their lines and threaten the status quo, Wall Street floods the town with cash and lawyers to help the hired hands remember their own best interests. The executives of the financial giants even have de facto criminal immunity. On March 6, 2013, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Attorney General Eric Holder stated the following: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy.” This, from the chief law enforcement officer of a justice system that has practically abolished the constitutional right to trial for poorer defendants charged with certain crimes. It is not too much to say that Wall Street may be the ultimate owner of the Deep State and its strategies, if for no other reason than that it has the money to reward government operatives with a second career that is lucrative beyond the dreams of avarice — certainly beyond the dreams of a salaried government employee. [3]


The corridor between Manhattan and Washington is a well trodden highway for the personalities we have all gotten to know in the period since the massive deregulation of Wall Street: Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers, Henry Paulson, Timothy Geithner and many others. Not all the traffic involves persons connected with the purely financial operations of the government: In 2013, General David Petraeus joined KKR (formerly Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) of 9 West 57th Street, New York, a private equity firm with $62.3 billion in assets. KKR specializes in management buyouts and leveraged finance. General Petraeus’ expertise in these areas is unclear. His ability to peddle influence, however, is a known and valued commodity. Unlike Cincinnatus, the military commanders of the Deep State do not take up the plow once they lay down the sword. Petraeus also obtained a sinecure as a non-resident senior fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard. The Ivy League is, of course, the preferred bleaching tub and charm school of the American oligarchy. [4]