The truth about the propaganda line that the market is great under Biden.

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Why would you gripe about market if you are not in it? If you are in it, why did you choose poorly? The market has been and is fine. As for future and your WWIII scenario, take appropriate market moves when necessary, like the rest of us.

I’m in the market I’ve done ok…



Fact is many Americans are doing worse under Biden compared to Trump …that’s the point of the OP

 

[Leo123]

I’m in the market I’ve done ok…



Fact is many Americans are doing worse under Biden compared to Trump …that’s the point of the OP

I have noticed that whenever lefties are confronted with Trump's great economic history they always pivot to lawfare and lies. OR, like Biden, just tell all out lies like inflation was 9% when Biden took office. What a liar. Biden owns every percentage of that rise to 9%.

 

[konradv]

I have noticed that whenever lefties are confronted with Trump's great economic history they always pivot to lawfare and lies. OR, like Biden, just tell all out lies like inflation was 9% when Biden took office. What a liar. Biden owns every percentage of that rise to 9%.

Trump doesn’t have a great economic history.

#MAGALIES

 

[pknopp]

Trump doesn’t have a great economic history.

#MAGALIES

The argument always goes that the economy was great. A great economy does not require the constant pumping of billions of dollars into it.

Those billions gave the illusion of a good economy but those actions have to be paid for and they are paid for with inflation. It's simple econ 101.

Is that all on Trump? Absolutely not. We pumped and pumped and pumped through Obama's eight years. Did actions pre-Obama cause the reason the Fed pumped? Absolutely.

Is Biden continual run up of debt an added issue? Absolutely.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Sometimes I really wonder, just where are you people? Damn skippy life is better, much better. Inflation? That might have worked a couple of years ago but that dog ain't going to hunt today. Wages have grown faster than inflation.

It is comical really. Focusing on prices, claiming times were good under Trump when the reality is, prices were low because no one was buying anything. They were holed up in their house afraid to come out because of Covid. The country was living off of borrowed money that Trump was all but dropping from helicopters. In the midst of unemployment levels not seen since the Great Depression incomes WENT UP, from government payments.

I have said it before, the only thing that makes sense is all you complaining yahoos are drawing Social Security, probably through disability. You ain't out here in the real world with the rest of us.

Take that whole inflation number. Completely ignore that incomes have increased more than inflation, what about substitution? Strawberries are cheaper now than when Trump was president. Ground beef, much cheaper than during the Covid crisis. Chicken, it hqs been up and down, supply chain issues here and there, but honestly, a modest increase on the average. Pork--hell, it has stayed level. Seafood, get out of here, it is all cheaper. Fresh Atlantic Salmon, from the Pacific, farm-raised 300 miles off the coast of Chile. Want to talk supply chain? Five days out of the water, and that salmon is sitting on my kitchen counter reeking of watermelon. Seven bucks a pound. WTF? Snow crab, same damn price. Sure, close the season in Alaska, Norway ain't closing. Same for King Crab. Twenty bucks a pound. Under Trump, fifty. But then there is catfish.

I am a good old Southern boy, but not a seafood fan, and damn sure not catfish. I grew up not far from the lake, and we had a boat, a story in itself. But the lake was just nasty. i wouldn't eat anything that came out of there. But farm raised catfish, out of Mississippi, five bucks a pound. And the cost, yep, buyer told me,. two bucks a pound.

If anything, this is Darwinism. I actually kind of like where we are going. And I have resources, I can tap into the community better than anyone. I mean I do have the Brady bunch, three and three. And, along with myself, to the person, all of us are in a much better position today.

/---/ "prices were low because no one was buying anything. They were holed up in their house afraid to come out because of Covid."
Hey nimrod, The Trump economy was strong for 2 years before Covid hit.

"borrowed money that Trump was all but dropping from helicopters."
Why didn't the democRAT Congress stop him? They control the money, after all. Just like Nancy Piglosi stopped Trump from building the wall.

"Take that whole inflation number. Completely ignore that incomes have increased more than inflation, what about substitution?"
Inflation may have slowed last year, but it continued to deal heavy blows — some devastating — on Americans’ livelihoods: Nearly two-thirds of US adults were worse off because of it, and roughly 1 in 6 couldn’t pay all their monthly bills, new Federal Reserve data shows.
Inflation made the financial lives “worse” for 65% of US households, according to the report. Among those, 19% said it was “much worse.”

As far as seafood prices, I live on Long Island, so fresh seafood is less expensive and plentiful right off the boat—cheaper than people inland pay.

Persisting inflation woes making 2024 seafood outlook hard to predict - Saving Seafood

April 23, 2024 — At the beginning of 2023, economists predicted the U.S. was either in – or would soon be in – a recession, while the E.U. faced similar predictions of slowed growth and high inflation. During the Global Seafood Market Conference in early 2023, Wells Fargo Senior Economist Tim...

www.savingseafood.org

Higher prices drove consumers away from seafood last year, with 37 percent of those surveyed by FMI saying inflation and seafood’s cost relative to other proteins, led them to cut back on seafood purchases, according to the report.

FMI’s report also found that 40 percent of frequent seafood purchasers believe seafood is expensive, while 52 percent of non-seafood purchases believe it is expensive.

Fifty-four percent of Americans say price influences their seafood-purchasing decisions, beating out other criteria such as quality and freshness, store location, high-quality service, variety, seafood origin, and sustainability certifications.

Why do you have to twist and distort everything?

 

[pknopp]

/---/ "prices were low because no one was buying anything. They were holed up in their house afraid to come out because of Covid."
Hey nimrod, The Trump economy was strong for 2 years before Covid hit.

A strong economy does not require the pumping of billions of dollars to keep it above water.

"borrowed money that Trump was all but dropping from helicopters."
Why didn't the democRAT Congress stop him? They control the money, after all. Just like Nancy Piglosi stopped Trump from building the wall.

The Democrats aren't concerned with debt. Why do you blame them for what Trump wouldn't do? Also, the money for the wall was passed before Trump ever came into office. And they passed billions more when he was president.

Congress approves almost $1.4 billion for border wall

 

[justoffal]

Meanwhile back in reality, we had to wait for a table at Maggiano's for 45 minutes on a Tuesday the other night. The economy is doing well, people are eating out; spending money.

The market's all time highs--much higher than Trump's by the way--are an indicator of the strong economy.

It could always be doing better though.

The Market numbers have been climbing for 20 years....they don't have Presidential names attached to them anymore than solar eclipse do.

Your Trip to Maggiano's the other day only highlights the "let them eat cake" philosophy of the investor class. The so called booming economy is a very narrow experience as November 5th is likely to show.

 

[konradv]

The Market numbers have been climbing for 20 years....they don't have Presidential names attached to them anymore than solar eclipse do.

Your Trip to Maggiano's the other day only highlights the "let them eat cake" philosophy of the investor class. The so called booming economy is a very narrow experience as November 5th is likely to show.

Yet there’s enough money to destroy guitars!

#VOTEHARRIS

 

[justoffal]

Yet there’s enough money to destroy guitars!

#VOTEHARRIS

Yeah....pretty stupid....go out to the homeless and pass out $20 bills till their gone. That was just stupid.

 

[candycorn]

The Market numbers have been climbing for 20 years....they don't have Presidential names attached to them anymore than solar eclipse do.

When the blob was in office, it was a sign of a robust economy according to the blob and his cult members here.

Your Trip to Maggiano's the other day only highlights the "let them eat cake" philosophy of the investor class. The so called booming economy is a very narrow experience as November 5th is likely to show.

LOL..

Its Maggianos. Hooters, Chilis, Cheesecake Factory, Olive Garden, etc... were all well patronized too. If this is the "end times" as you guys keep insisting, everyone is pretty well fed on their way to the abyss.

 

[SeaMajor7]

When the blob was in office, it was a sign of a robust economy according to the blob and his cult members here.

LOL..

Its Maggianos. Hooters, Chilis, Cheesecake Factory, Olive Garden, etc... were all well patronized too. If this is the "end times" as you guys keep insisting, everyone is pretty well fed on their way to the abyss.

The blob you constantly see IS IN YOUR MIRROR.

 

[Cellblock2429]

A strong economy does not require the pumping of billions of dollars to keep it above water.




The Democrats aren't concerned with debt. Why do you blame them for what Trump wouldn't do? Also, the money for the wall was passed before Trump ever came into office. And they passed billions more when he was president.

Congress approves almost $1.4 billion for border wall

/—-/ Stop lying to protect Piglosi.
Schumer said Thursday that a bipartisan Senate plan for $1.6 billion in border security funding does not include money for the 30-foot-high (9-meter-high) concrete wall Trump has envisioned. The money “can only be used for fencing” and technology that experts say is appropriate and makes sense as a security feature, Schumer said.

Pelosi takes hard line on paying for Trump's border wall

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi on Thursday rejected the idea of paying for President Donald Trump's border wall in exchange for helping hundreds of thousands of young immigrants avoid deportation.

apnews.com

 

[Marener]

Hey nimrod, The Trump economy was strong for 2 years before Covid hit.

It was okay. Not that much different than the economy under Obama which all the conservatives said was a total disaster. GDP growth never went past 3% annually. There were plenty of signs of impending recession as well, which is why the Fed had to lower interest rates 0.75 in the latter half of the year.

Trump promised this amazing economy and failed to deliver.

 

[White 6]

I’m in the market I’ve done ok…



Fact is many Americans are doing worse under Biden compared to Trump …that’s the point of the OP

Marketwise, I am not sure how, unless they were day traders, trying to outguess, rather than keep and accrue by slow growth, but it would no be Bidden's fault if the day traders did not fare as well as the people that bet on the almost sure thing, though slower return. There is no doubt, the big players are doing quite well, as the market number reflect, and as corporate business filings reflect. The numbers are the numbers, and there is no denying it.

 

[Winston]

/---/ "prices were low because no one was buying anything. They were holed up in their house afraid to come out because of Covid."
Hey nimrod, The Trump economy was strong for 2 years before Covid hit.

"borrowed money that Trump was all but dropping from helicopters."
Why didn't the democRAT Congress stop him? They control the money, after all. Just like Nancy Piglosi stopped Trump from building the wall.

"Take that whole inflation number. Completely ignore that incomes have increased more than inflation, what about substitution?"
Inflation may have slowed last year, but it continued to deal heavy blows — some devastating — on Americans’ livelihoods: Nearly two-thirds of US adults were worse off because of it, and roughly 1 in 6 couldn’t pay all their monthly bills, new Federal Reserve data shows.
Inflation made the financial lives “worse” for 65% of US households, according to the report. Among those, 19% said it was “much worse.”

As far as seafood prices, I live on Long Island, so fresh seafood is less expensive and plentiful right off the boat—cheaper than people inland pay.

Persisting inflation woes making 2024 seafood outlook hard to predict - Saving Seafood

April 23, 2024 — At the beginning of 2023, economists predicted the U.S. was either in – or would soon be in – a recession, while the E.U. faced similar predictions of slowed growth and high inflation. During the Global Seafood Market Conference in early 2023, Wells Fargo Senior Economist Tim...

www.savingseafood.org

Higher prices drove consumers away from seafood last year, with 37 percent of those surveyed by FMI saying inflation and seafood’s cost relative to other proteins, led them to cut back on seafood purchases, according to the report.

FMI’s report also found that 40 percent of frequent seafood purchasers believe seafood is expensive, while 52 percent of non-seafood purchases believe it is expensive.

Fifty-four percent of Americans say price influences their seafood-purchasing decisions, beating out other criteria such as quality and freshness, store location, high-quality service, variety, seafood origin, and sustainability certifications.

Why do you have to twist and distort everything?

First off the Covid excuse. Maybe that first two years was simply continuing momentum from Obama. In fact, all the GDP growth in Trump's first two years can be attributed to the Affordable Care Act.

And I don't know what you think you are accomplishing with your seafood argument. First, you don't post a link to the Federal Reserve Study, here is the latest one.

Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.

www.federalreserve.gov

The link you do post is discussing Europe, not the United States.

Seafood Report 2023: Supply challenges and market opportunities

The seafood supply chain will experience issues with continuity of supplies from various regions around the world in 2023.

www.provisioneronline.com

Fresh seafood prices were down in December 2022 compared with the end of 2021. For the year, 2022 seafood prices increased 7.9%, below the rate of inflation for the overall food and beverage category (12.5%).

You got that, seafood prices down, and I find it comical that you keyboard warriors want to argue with me. I sell over seven million dollars worth of seafood and meat a year. I produce a yield rate of just shy of 25%. Not only do I know what the stuff retails for, I know what it costs.

Yes, salmon at $6.99 a pound. And the best salmon on the market, sometimes, less than a week out of the water. Catfish, $4.99 a pound, cost, two bucks a poud. Cod, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Tilapia from China, $5.99 lb. Flounder, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Snow crab, from Norway, $6.99 a pound. King Crab, actually, used to come out of Russia, now Norway, $22.99 a pound. And, maybe most impressive of all, I mean I have kind of made a habit of it. Fresh Carolina shrimp, caught on Tuesday, cooked and on my plate on Thursday. $13.99 a pound, 21-30 count. From the link,

The seafood supply chain represents the most complex food system on the planet, Gorton said, and given that 80% to 85% of consumer demand for seafood in the U.S. is filled with imported product, much of which has months-long order lead times and various seasonality, supply cannot be adjusted quickly as demand fluctuates.

Look, this is what I do. My career choice, way back in the day, from what I saw growing up, best gig. A butcher. But hey, we are talking when Jimmy Carter was president. That turned all to shit in a hurry. Fifteen years later, I was out. MBA, get er done, cashed in the retirement plan, got a single room in Old East at Carolina, yeah, I won the lottery. Worked for some major venture capitalists for a while. You ever seen a movie where some really big government dude gives a guy a card, says if you need it, show this? Well, I had a coin. I scored the interview, and then, while registering with the receptionist, I flopped out thqt coin, or technically, a medal. I have been a member of the ANA for almost fifty years.

Damn, talking about making people jump. Two other applicants in the waiting room, they took me back right away. There I was, in front of a pretty big dude. OK, I will just lay it out there, Erskine Bowles. Chief of staff for Clinton. He has the medal. "Where did you get this?". I smile, "Your Dad". "When can you start?", LOL.

So, I played that game, went out on my on, starting handling money, and it wasn't so bad. But I didn't like it. It wasn't the same. Oh, I threw everything I could to deferred income. I knew the day was going to come, that my kids would be grown, and I wouldn't have to make that kind of money. I mean I don't know about you, but even feeding three teenage boys, you can't imagine the expense.

But when those boys were all grown and gone, I went back to what I love.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

First off the Covid excuse. Maybe that first two years was simply continuing momentum from Obama. In fact, all the GDP growth in Trump's first two years can be attributed to the Affordable Care Act.

And I don't know what you think you are accomplishing with your seafood argument. First, you don't post a link to the Federal Reserve Study, here is the latest one.

Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.

www.federalreserve.gov

The link you do post is discussing Europe, not the United States.

Seafood Report 2023: Supply challenges and market opportunities

The seafood supply chain will experience issues with continuity of supplies from various regions around the world in 2023.

www.provisioneronline.com

Fresh seafood prices were down in December 2022 compared with the end of 2021. For the year, 2022 seafood prices increased 7.9%, below the rate of inflation for the overall food and beverage category (12.5%).

You got that, seafood prices down, and I find it comical that you keyboard warriors want to argue with me. I sell over seven million dollars worth of seafood and meat a year. I produce a yield rate of just shy of 25%. Not only do I know what the stuff retails for, I know what it costs.

Yes, salmon at $6.99 a pound. And the best salmon on the market, sometimes, less than a week out of the water. Catfish, $4.99 a pound, cost, two bucks a poud. Cod, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Tilapia from China, $5.99 lb. Flounder, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Snow crab, from Norway, $6.99 a pound. King Crab, actually, used to come out of Russia, now Norway, $22.99 a pound. And, maybe most impressive of all, I mean I have kind of made a habit of it. Fresh Carolina shrimp, caught on Tuesday, cooked and on my plate on Thursday. $13.99 a pound, 21-30 count. From the link,

The seafood supply chain represents the most complex food system on the planet, Gorton said, and given that 80% to 85% of consumer demand for seafood in the U.S. is filled with imported product, much of which has months-long order lead times and various seasonality, supply cannot be adjusted quickly as demand fluctuates.

Look, this is what I do. My career choice, way back in the day, from what I saw growing up, best gig. A butcher. But hey, we are talking when Jimmy Carter was president. That turned all to shit in a hurry. Fifteen years later, I was out. MBA, get er done, cashed in the retirement plan, got a single room in Old East at Carolina, yeah, I won the lottery. Worked for some major venture capitalists for a while. You ever seen a movie where some really big government dude gives a guy a card, says if you need it, show this? Well, I had a coin. I scored the interview, and then, while registering with the receptionist, I flopped out thqt coin, or technically, a medal. I have been a member of the ANA for almost fifty years.

Damn, talking about making people jump. Two other applicants in the waiting room, they took me back right away. There I was, in front of a pretty big dude. OK, I will just lay it out there, Erskine Bowles. Chief of staff for Clinton. He has the medal. "Where did you get this?". I smile, "Your Dad". "When can you start?", LOL.

So, I played that game, went out on my on, starting handling money, and it wasn't so bad. But I didn't like it. It wasn't the same. Oh, I threw everything I could to deferred income. I knew the day was going to come, that my kids would be grown, and I wouldn't have to make that kind of money. I mean I don't know about you, but even feeding three teenage boys, you can't imagine the expense.

But when those boys were all grown and gone, I went back to what I love.

There’s no need for your essay style post. Sir it’s very simple. Gas prices are up considerably still compared to 2019. For example, in my area in 2019 a gallon of gas was under two dollars a gallon. It is now $3.25.a gallon. That is going to raise the price of food. That’s simple math there’s no way around it. It is undeniable. Food in general is up considerably today compared to 2019. Sure there’s some examples here and there of similar prices or maybe even lower prices.


I understand that the price of nails are less than they were in 2019. But that doesn’t mean that the general cost of living is low under Biden. You cannot argue against these facts. Look at the price of homes and the cost of a home loan, it is astronomical compared to what it was under Trump.

 

[Winston]

There’s no need for your essay style post. Sir it’s very simple. Gas prices are up considerably still compared to 2019. For example, in my area in 2019 a gallon of gas was under two dollars a gallon. It is now $3.25.a gallon. That is going to raise the price of food. That’s simple math there’s no way around it. It is undeniable. Food in general is up considerably today compared to 2019. Sure there’s some examples here and there of similar prices or maybe even lower prices.


I understand that the price of nails are less than they were in 2019. But that doesn’t mean that the general cost of living is low under Biden. You canot argue against these facts. Look at the price of homes and the cost of a home loan, it is astronomical compared to what it was under Trump.

I paid $2.66 a gallon yesterday. The average price of gasoline dropped under two dollars only one month during Trump's tenure, April of 2020, Covid just getting rolling. It just doesn't make sense to even compare prices when unemployment is at levels not seen since the Great Depression and people staying home and too scared to go out of the house. Millions of workers working remote, of course gasoline was cheap.

You Trump critters are a hoot. Any bad results from Covid, like unemployment, oh well, Trump gets a pass. Not his fault, it was Covid. But gas prices plummet because demand falls off the cliff--Trump made gas cheap. What utter flippin fools.

And you are missing the point on seafood, as well as other food products. Yes, seafood prices are higher than they were when Biden took office. But they spiked in 2022 and have been dropping since then. A the price increase has been lower than food in general, which holds true for most of the proteins.

But let's go ahead and make something clear. Trump has no plan to address inflation. I am sorry, but despite as much as you want to believe it, "drill baby drill" ain't the damn answer. The Biden administration has done several things extremely well, perhaps at the top of the list, anti-trust enforcement.

You think the price of gas is the primary component, you have been brainwashed. I mean be intuitive. First, it is diesel that moves goods. And you can put 26 pallets on a 53 foot trailer. That is a bunch of shit. And don't even get me started on the trains. Even the planes. $6.99 a pound salmon, the transportation cost in that price is mostly jet fuel.

Monopoly power, collusion, those are the components of controllable inflation. And from day one, the Biden administration has been addressing those problems. Probably go down in history as the most effective administration in administering anti-trust enforcement. Harris has vowed to kick it up a notch.

I mean there is a reason seafood prices have not increased as much as other proteins. The market is controlled by just a few players. It is wide ass open in seafood. Beef, that is JBS and National Beef Packing. Both owned by Brazilian companies. Cargill plays a role, but focuses on the restaurant sector.

Poultry, Tyson. Pork, Smithfield. It actually boggles the mind, how much "price control" these companies have. For example, I am moving hundreds of pounds of grass-fed steaks every day. Rib-eyes, strips, tenderloins. From Australia. Yes, more jet fuel. But, I can under cut the price from JBS for even select products. How the hell does that make sense? And the Australian product is a much higher quality product, yield is exponentially better.

I mean have you been to a concert lately? Talk about inflation. My first concert was ZZ Top. I went with two dates, LOL. All three tickets cost me $24, 1979. Damn, be lucky to park for that now. I mean you cough up hundreds of dollars for the tickets and then they all but pick you up and shake every nickel out of your body when you get there. The Biden Administration has went after Ticketmaster. Their control of the market is like something from the Empire Era.

Airplane tickets, even hotel stays, restaurants for that matter. And then don't even think about wading into the grocery aisles, paper goods, baby formula, laundry detergent. Damn, milk and cheese, even eggs for Christ's sake. All those markets dominated by a few small players. Address that problem.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I paid $2.66 a gallon yesterday. The average price of gasoline dropped under two dollars only one month during Trump's tenure, April of 2020, Covid just getting rolling. It just doesn't make sense to even compare prices when unemployment is at levels not seen since the Great Depression and people staying home and too scared to go out of the house. Millions of workers working remote, of course gasoline was cheap.

You Trump critters are a hoot. Any bad results from Covid, like unemployment, oh well, Trump gets a pass. Not his fault, it was Covid. But gas prices plummet because demand falls off the cliff--Trump made gas cheap. What utter flippin fools.

And you are missing the point on seafood, as well as other food products. Yes, seafood prices are higher than they were when Biden took office. But they spiked in 2022 and have been dropping since then. A the price increase has been lower than food in general, which holds true for most of the proteins.

But let's go ahead and make something clear. Trump has no plan to address inflation. I am sorry, but despite as much as you want to believe it, "drill baby drill" ain't the damn answer. The Biden administration has done several things extremely well, perhaps at the top of the list, anti-trust enforcement.

You think the price of gas is the primary component, you have been brainwashed. I mean be intuitive. First, it is diesel that moves goods. And you can put 26 pallets on a 53 foot trailer. That is a bunch of shit. And don't even get me started on the trains. Even the planes. $6.99 a pound salmon, the transportation cost in that price is mostly jet fuel.

Monopoly power, collusion, those are the components of controllable inflation. And from day one, the Biden administration has been addressing those problems. Probably go down in history as the most effective administration in administering anti-trust enforcement. Harris has vowed to kick it up a notch.

I mean there is a reason seafood prices have not increased as much as other proteins. The market is controlled by just a few players. It is wide ass open in seafood. Beef, that is JBS and National Beef Packing. Both owned by Brazilian companies. Cargill plays a role, but focuses on the restaurant sector.

Poultry, Tyson. Pork, Smithfield. It actually boggles the mind, how much "price control" these companies have. For example, I am moving hundreds of pounds of grass-fed steaks every day. Rib-eyes, strips, tenderloins. From Australia. Yes, more jet fuel. But, I can under cut the price from JBS for even select products. How the hell does that make sense? And the Australian product is a much higher quality product, yield is exponentially better.

I mean have you been to a concert lately? Talk about inflation. My first concert was ZZ Top. I went with two dates, LOL. All three tickets cost me $24, 1979. Damn, be lucky to park for that now. I mean you cough up hundreds of dollars for the tickets and then they all but pick you up and shake every nickel out of your body when you get there. The Biden Administration has went after Ticketmaster. Their control of the market is like something from the Empire Era.

Airplane tickets, even hotel stays, restaurants for that matter. And then don't even think about wading into the grocery aisles, paper goods, baby formula, laundry detergent. Damn, milk and cheese, even eggs for Christ's sake. All those markets dominated by a few small players. Address that problem.

With respect, there’s no need for you to post an essay style post. Do you understand that under Trump the interest on a home loan was 2 1/2% …. It jump to over 7% under Biden. And in many cases home prices have gone up by 50 to 100% in that same time. Making it nearly impossible for middle-class Americans to buy a home. So how can you say these things above that you’re saying without at least recognizing that?

Mortgage payments on a new home have risen 90% under Biden’s presidency​

Mortgage payments on a new home have risen 90% under Biden’s presidency

Still, real estate experts advise potential buyers against waiting for a market shift and brace for an extended period of higher interest rates.

nypost.com

We have all of the data. Across-the-board middle-class Americans are struggling…their top concerned right now is the high cost of living. Working class Americans are low on money… even if they’re working their bills are so high they’re having trouble paying rent. Do you think that they’re imagining all of this?

The American Dream is under siege | CNN Business

Allison Powell knew it wouldn’t be easy to raise a family and buy a home. But she didn’t think it would be this hard.

amp.cnn.com

https://www.ipsos.com/en/americans-increasingly-concerned-about-inflation-us-election-nears

 

[Care4all]

Simply put under Biden you have a good year for the market in other words basically a good year for index funds. But a brutal cost-of-living. The middle class is getting crushed in this country.

Under Trump, we had a good market and a affordable cost-of-living. Nobody can get around this point. No Biden or Harris supporter can honestly say life is better for a middle-class American today than it was under Trump. I mean that again when we’re talking about her supporters, many of them are radical feminists and beta males , who will say anything even if it’s an outright lie in order to criticize Trump and support Harris.

All the stimulus checks that made us feel good and financially better off at the time, ended up being taken back from us, with the inflation that covid supply issues caused and with those covid stimulus checks of printed money and other benefits... caused.

At some point, reality sets in....and those feel good covid checks, spurred an increase in inflation....

 

[Cellblock2429]

First off the Covid excuse. Maybe that first two years was simply continuing momentum from Obama. In fact, all the GDP growth in Trump's first two years can be attributed to the Affordable Care Act.

And I don't know what you think you are accomplishing with your seafood argument. First, you don't post a link to the Federal Reserve Study, here is the latest one.

Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.

www.federalreserve.gov

The link you do post is discussing Europe, not the United States.

Seafood Report 2023: Supply challenges and market opportunities

The seafood supply chain will experience issues with continuity of supplies from various regions around the world in 2023.

www.provisioneronline.com

Fresh seafood prices were down in December 2022 compared with the end of 2021. For the year, 2022 seafood prices increased 7.9%, below the rate of inflation for the overall food and beverage category (12.5%).

You got that, seafood prices down, and I find it comical that you keyboard warriors want to argue with me. I sell over seven million dollars worth of seafood and meat a year. I produce a yield rate of just shy of 25%. Not only do I know what the stuff retails for, I know what it costs.

Yes, salmon at $6.99 a pound. And the best salmon on the market, sometimes, less than a week out of the water. Catfish, $4.99 a pound, cost, two bucks a poud. Cod, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Tilapia from China, $5.99 lb. Flounder, from Iceland, $8.99 a pound. Snow crab, from Norway, $6.99 a pound. King Crab, actually, used to come out of Russia, now Norway, $22.99 a pound. And, maybe most impressive of all, I mean I have kind of made a habit of it. Fresh Carolina shrimp, caught on Tuesday, cooked and on my plate on Thursday. $13.99 a pound, 21-30 count. From the link,

The seafood supply chain represents the most complex food system on the planet, Gorton said, and given that 80% to 85% of consumer demand for seafood in the U.S. is filled with imported product, much of which has months-long order lead times and various seasonality, supply cannot be adjusted quickly as demand fluctuates.

Look, this is what I do. My career choice, way back in the day, from what I saw growing up, best gig. A butcher. But hey, we are talking when Jimmy Carter was president. That turned all to shit in a hurry. Fifteen years later, I was out. MBA, get er done, cashed in the retirement plan, got a single room in Old East at Carolina, yeah, I won the lottery. Worked for some major venture capitalists for a while. You ever seen a movie where some really big government dude gives a guy a card, says if you need it, show this? Well, I had a coin. I scored the interview, and then, while registering with the receptionist, I flopped out thqt coin, or technically, a medal. I have been a member of the ANA for almost fifty years.

Damn, talking about making people jump. Two other applicants in the waiting room, they took me back right away. There I was, in front of a pretty big dude. OK, I will just lay it out there, Erskine Bowles. Chief of staff for Clinton. He has the medal. "Where did you get this?". I smile, "Your Dad". "When can you start?", LOL.

So, I played that game, went out on my on, starting handling money, and it wasn't so bad. But I didn't like it. It wasn't the same. Oh, I threw everything I could to deferred income. I knew the day was going to come, that my kids would be grown, and I wouldn't have to make that kind of money. I mean I don't know about you, but even feeding three teenage boys, you can't imagine the expense.

But when those boys were all grown and gone, I went back to what I love.

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