The Sweat Equity Is Evaporating

[SAYIT]

It's long been the Dem agenda to divide us into victim classes. Their biggest gambit has always been class warfare. By creating and "serving" more poor they believe they can grab power in perpetuity. Anyone foolish enough to believe the Dems "serve" anyone but themselves need only glimpse that pic of Princess Pelosi gobbling her $12/pt ice cream ... $12/pt FFS.

"It's only for me, not for thee." Meanwhile their scheme continues apace:

End New York City’s lockdown now!

By prolonging the coronavirus shutdown long after its core mission was accomplished, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio have plunged tens of thousands of New Yorkers into poverty.

nypost.com

Meanwhile, the Big Apple is dying. Its streets are empty. The bars and jazz clubs, restaurants and coffeehouses sit barren. Beloved haunts, storied rooms, perfect-slice joints are shuttered, many for good. The sweat equity of countless small-business owners is evaporating. Instead of getting people back to work providing for their families, our mayor talks about a fantasyland New Deal for the post-coronavirus era.

 

[Ricky LIbtardo]

You didn't build that.

 

[SAYIT]

You didn't build that.

The guy who coined that phrase never built anything. Like millions of hard-working Americans, I built plenty and in the process, created jobs and wealth.

 

[Ricky LIbtardo]

You didn't build that.

The guy who coined that phrase never built anything. Like millions of hard-working Americans, I built plenty and in the process, created jobs and wealth.

I don't know if I'd claim Obamakov didn't build anything. He built out a coke peddling operation while in college.

 

[Votto]

It's long been the Dem agenda to divide us into victim classes. Their biggest gambit has always been class warfare. By creating and "serving" more poor they believe they can grab power in perpetuity. Anyone foolish enough to believe the Dems "serve" anyone but themselves need only glimpse that pic of Princess Pelosi gobbling her $12/pt ice cream ... $12/pt FFS.

"It's only for me, not for thee." Meanwhile their scheme continues apace:

End New York City’s lockdown now!

By prolonging the coronavirus shutdown long after its core mission was accomplished, Gov. Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio have plunged tens of thousands of New Yorkers into poverty.

nypost.com

Meanwhile, the Big Apple is dying. Its streets are empty. The bars and jazz clubs, restaurants and coffeehouses sit barren. Beloved haunts, storied rooms, perfect-slice joints are shuttered, many for good. The sweat equity of countless small-business owners is evaporating. Instead of getting people back to work providing for their families, our mayor talks about a fantasyland New Deal for the post-coronavirus era.

Leftism is a metastesis.

I think the goal here is to force all the crazy Left tards to move into the rest of the country and change it to be more like New York City.

 

[bendog]

loved them Moscow Mitch/ Trump tax cuts. (sarcasm)

 

[Andylusion]

loved them Moscow Mitch/ Trump tax cuts. (sarcasm)

Not sure what you think your implying from that. There isn't enough tax cuts in the world to help, when the government ruins the economy directly.

 

[bendog]

I was saying that I don't see any rational way to argue the Moscow Mitch Trump tax cuts benefitted families of 4 with two working parents earning 75-95K.

The OP was a hodge podge of RW social warfare bs.

But I'd agree that the Obamacare subsidized plans were "a tad" heavyhanded in what plans had to offer.

 

[SAYIT]

loved them Moscow Mitch/ Trump tax cuts. (sarcasm)

Not sure what you think your implying from that. There isn't enough tax cuts in the world to help, when the government ruins the economy directly.

Obviously Bendog has a prob with allowing productive Americans keep the fruit of their labor. Evidently he isn't getting that to which he believes he's entitled. So sad.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You didn't build that.

No, they built it . . . but they didn't tear it down. That really WAS the government.

 

[Cecilie1200]

loved them Moscow Mitch/ Trump tax cuts. (sarcasm)

Well, that was refreshingly random and irrelevant.

 

[Andylusion]

I was saying that I don't see any rational way to argue the Moscow Mitch Trump tax cuts benefitted families of 4 with two working parents earning 75-95K.

The OP was a hodge podge of RW social warfare bs.

But I'd agree that the Obamacare subsidized plans were "a tad" heavyhanded in what plans had to offer.

Well... Many companies openly said that the reason they were investing outside the US, was because of favorable tax rates.

It isn't exactly a secret. Apple specifically said that the fundamental reason they invested billions of dollars into Ireland, as because of the tax benefits.

Now if the difference was 25% verses 20%, that wouldn't be enough to justify investing billions of dollars elsewhere.

But the difference was 35% verses Ireland's 12.5%. That's huge. If you have $20 Billion, a drop of 22.5% in taxes, saves you over $4 Billion dollars you could use to invest, create new products, hire new people, or just give out in dividends to 401Ks and investors. All of which are good for the economy.

And this wasn't some sort of empty-office Panama Papers scheme.... this was real direct investment, and not just Apple computer by the way.

Ireland has gotten an estimated $360 Billion dollars in investment from US companies, this according to the American Ireland Chamber of Commerce. The entire GDP of Ireland is $380 Billion.

And this wide spread investment, translates into real jobs for real people. Apple alone, has created over 6,000 jobs, plus an addition 2,000 more from a new research building they are opening in Ireland, and that doesn't include all the of the supporting businesses that exist because of Apple moving there. Construction, utilities, logistics and so on, that support such large companies.

Your position is extremely short term thinking. In the extreme short term, sure the tax cut didn't directly benefit people at the low end.... unless of course they are like me and have a 401K or IRA. Obviously reducing corporate taxes does in fact increase net profits, which will always result in better dividends. I most certainly did benefit from higher dividend payouts from my stock investments. No question about it.

But in the long term, as businesses change how they invest based on new lower tax rates, we HAVE seen an increase in jobs and investment in the US. And that does certainly help low income people.

Just like Apple creating 8,000 jobs in Ireland, benefits the lower and middle class people of Ireland, so would that $360 Billion in investment, benefit lower and middle class people in the US.

And obviously with lower corporate tax rates, the result will be... and has been... more investment in the US. And that benefits all of us.

 

[SAYIT]

I was saying that I don't see any rational way to argue the Moscow Mitch Trump tax cuts benefitted families of 4 with two working parents earning 75-95K.

The OP was a hodge podge of RW social warfare bs.

But I'd agree that the Obamacare subsidized plans were "a tad" heavyhanded in what plans had to offer.

Well... Many companies openly said that the reason they were investing outside the US, was because of favorable tax rates.

It isn't exactly a secret. Apple specifically said that the fundamental reason they invested billions of dollars into Ireland, as because of the tax benefits.

Now if the difference was 25% verses 20%, that wouldn't be enough to justify investing billions of dollars elsewhere.

But the difference was 35% verses Ireland's 12.5%. That's huge. If you have $20 Billion, a drop of 22.5% in taxes, saves you over $4 Billion dollars you could use to invest, create new products, hire new people, or just give out in dividends to 401Ks and investors. All of which are good for the economy.

And this wasn't some sort of empty-office Panama Papers scheme.... this was real direct investment, and not just Apple computer by the way.

Ireland has gotten an estimated $360 Billion dollars in investment from US companies, this according to the American Ireland Chamber of Commerce. The entire GDP of Ireland is $380 Billion.

And this wide spread investment, translates into real jobs for real people. Apple alone, has created over 6,000 jobs, plus an addition 2,000 more from a new research building they are opening in Ireland, and that doesn't include all the of the supporting businesses that exist because of Apple moving there. Construction, utilities, logistics and so on, that support such large companies.

Your position is extremely short term thinking. In the extreme short term, sure the tax cut didn't directly benefit people at the low end.... unless of course they are like me and have a 401K or IRA. Obviously reducing corporate taxes does in fact increase net profits, which will always result in better dividends. I most certainly did benefit from higher dividend payouts from my stock investments. No question about it.

But in the long term, as businesses change how they invest based on new lower tax rates, we HAVE seen an increase in jobs and investment in the US. And that does certainly help low income people.

Just like Apple creating 8,000 jobs in Ireland, benefits the lower and middle class people of Ireland, so would that $360 Billion in investment, benefit lower and middle class people in the US.

And obviously with lower corporate tax rates, the result will be... and has been... more investment in the US. And that benefits all of us.

Which brings us back to the point of this thread. Wealth creation and American prosperity are not in the best interest of the Democrat Socialist Party. A vast underclass dependent upon "gov't largesse" certainly is.

In fact, Pelosi's $12/pt ice cream tastes waaay better because most Americans can't afford it.

 

[Andylusion]

I was saying that I don't see any rational way to argue the Moscow Mitch Trump tax cuts benefitted families of 4 with two working parents earning 75-95K.

The OP was a hodge podge of RW social warfare bs.

But I'd agree that the Obamacare subsidized plans were "a tad" heavyhanded in what plans had to offer.

Well... Many companies openly said that the reason they were investing outside the US, was because of favorable tax rates.

It isn't exactly a secret. Apple specifically said that the fundamental reason they invested billions of dollars into Ireland, as because of the tax benefits.

Now if the difference was 25% verses 20%, that wouldn't be enough to justify investing billions of dollars elsewhere.

But the difference was 35% verses Ireland's 12.5%. That's huge. If you have $20 Billion, a drop of 22.5% in taxes, saves you over $4 Billion dollars you could use to invest, create new products, hire new people, or just give out in dividends to 401Ks and investors. All of which are good for the economy.

And this wasn't some sort of empty-office Panama Papers scheme.... this was real direct investment, and not just Apple computer by the way.

Ireland has gotten an estimated $360 Billion dollars in investment from US companies, this according to the American Ireland Chamber of Commerce. The entire GDP of Ireland is $380 Billion.

And this wide spread investment, translates into real jobs for real people. Apple alone, has created over 6,000 jobs, plus an addition 2,000 more from a new research building they are opening in Ireland, and that doesn't include all the of the supporting businesses that exist because of Apple moving there. Construction, utilities, logistics and so on, that support such large companies.

Your position is extremely short term thinking. In the extreme short term, sure the tax cut didn't directly benefit people at the low end.... unless of course they are like me and have a 401K or IRA. Obviously reducing corporate taxes does in fact increase net profits, which will always result in better dividends. I most certainly did benefit from higher dividend payouts from my stock investments. No question about it.

But in the long term, as businesses change how they invest based on new lower tax rates, we HAVE seen an increase in jobs and investment in the US. And that does certainly help low income people.

Just like Apple creating 8,000 jobs in Ireland, benefits the lower and middle class people of Ireland, so would that $360 Billion in investment, benefit lower and middle class people in the US.

And obviously with lower corporate tax rates, the result will be... and has been... more investment in the US. And that benefits all of us.

Which brings us back to the point of this thread. Wealth creation and American prosperity are not in the best interest of the Democrat Socialist Party. A vast underclass dependent upon "gov't largesse" certainly is.

In fact, Pelosi's $12/pt ice cream tastes waaay better because most Americans can't afford it.

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You forgot
"Your education on socialism"

And either have AOC saying she'll spend the money from a tax cut, or have a Trans-gender studies class picture.

 

[fncceo]

You didn't build that.

The guy who coined that phrase never built anything. Like millions of hard-working Americans, I built plenty and in the process, created jobs and wealth.

I don't know if I'd claim Obamakov didn't build anything. He built out a coke peddling operation while in college.

To be fair, I'm inclined to believe a coke dealer contributes more to society than a politician.

At least it's honest work.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You didn't build that.

The guy who coined that phrase never built anything. Like millions of hard-working Americans, I built plenty and in the process, created jobs and wealth.

I don't know if I'd claim Obamakov didn't build anything. He built out a coke peddling operation while in college.

To be fair, I'm inclined to believe a coke dealer contributes more to society than a politician.

At least it's honest work.

Well, at least the coke dealer is providing a product people want.