The shutdown meant no jobs report. Carlyle's analysis shows it would have been pretty bad

[Hafar1014]

I'm amused by the left's talking point that anyone who isn't willing to go along with the progressive agenda...which time after time has been shown not to work...that somehow THOSE people are extreme and part of a "cult"! That mindset is about to put a man-child who's never held a real job in charge of the biggest city in the United States!

So before the Mamdani debacle is unleashed on the citizens of New York, Danny...did you want to guess what the left's talking point will be for why New York descends into bankruptcy and total chaos?

Trump did it

 

[Dekster]

You have to support your point. A Harvard poll showed 64% blame democrats for the shutdown

You mean the poll that found 70 percent of respondents opposed the shutdown while 30 percent said they supported it. More respondents, 53 percent, blamed Republicans for the shutdown over those who blamed Democrats, 47 percent? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5540691-harvard-poll-government-shutdown/

Of course polling is just smoke and mirrors--Trump is caving "But in a significant shift, President Donald Trump is now expressing openness to one of Democrats’ main policy demands – that expiring subsides in the Affordable Care Act be extended." Government shutdown enters Day 7 as Trump signals shift in negotiations. Live updates

 

[Dekster]

They cant make deal which means fixing the mistakes in the ACA unless the government is open. Democrats are all in for illegals thats the real issue

The government does not have to be open. It can be part of the CR. The House would just have to vote on it again.

 

[Hafar1014]

The government does not have to be open. It can be part of the CR. The House would just have to vote on it again.

Then why did democrats shut down the government

 

[Dekster]

Then why did democrats shut down the government

They didn't shut down the government. The GOP did.

 

[22lcidw]

If you paid more there would be.

The then Toyota Corolla versus the Chevy Chevette was a huge difference. Progs purchased the Corolla.

 

[odanny]

That mindset is about to put a man-child who's never held a real job in charge of the biggest city in the United States!

That describes perfectly the reality TV star who is President of the United States, the highest political office, and the irony is so obvious to many of us, but to others, it is completely lost.

 

[justoffal]

That describes perfectly the reality TV star who is President of the United States, the highest political office, and the irony is so obvious to many of us, but to others, it is completely lost.

Nah....
Trump is by far the most experienced president that's ever walked into the office. His experience in the private sector has proven far superior to the long line of community organizers and pantywaist
Soy boys that have tried to sit in that chair before him.

 

[odanny]

Nah....
Trump is by far the most experienced president that's ever walked into the office. His experience in the private sector has proven far superior to the long line of community organizers and pantywaist
Soy boys that have tried to sit in that chair before him.

That, of course, is horseshit, he never held political office before he became President, and he suffers from mental illness / paranoia.

 

[Man With A Plan]

That describes perfectly the reality TV star who is President of the United States, the highest political office, and the irony is so obvious to many of us, but to others, it is completely lost.

You think Trump and Mamdani are similar in business experience? That literally might be the dumbest thing anyone will post on USMB today, Danny!

 

[Hafar1014]

They didn't shut down the government. The GOP did.

Harvard poll blames 64% blame the democrats

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The economy is strong and recovering from Bidens destructive policies

There are things Trump can do that may improve the situation, such as ending the idiotic, pointless tariffs and stop trying to politicize the Fed.

 

[Hafar1014]

There are things Trump can do that may improve the situation, such as ending the idiotic, pointless tariffs and stop trying to politicize the Fed.

The tariffs are bringing in 1 trillion a year and will pay off the deficit in 2 years. Inflation is slowing so prices have not gone up in any meaningful way.
Wages are up taxes cut for the middle class and seniors increasing spending power more than the effect of tariffs.
I dont see a problem

 

[Dekster]

Harvard poll blames 64% blame the democrats

Yet your unlinked mystery poll is contradicted bigly by the HARVARD poll I linked. Go figure.

 

[Moonglow]

You have to support your point. A Harvard poll showed 64% blame democrats for the shutdown

No, a recent Harvard poll does not show that 64% of people blame Democrats for the government shutdown. In fact, the opposite is true based on the latest available data.
Here is what recent polls, including a Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, show regarding the ongoing shutdown:

• Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll: A poll released on October 6, 2025, found that more respondents blamed Republicans (53%) than Democrats (47%) for the shutdown. It also found that 70% of respondents opposed the shutdown.
• Other polls: News outlets have also reported on polls showing that more Americans blame Republicans or former President Trump for the shutdown than Democrats.

The origin of the "64% blame Democrats" claim:
The 64% figure seems to be a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation of a different finding from the October 2025 Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll. That poll did find that 65% of respondents said Democrats should accept a continuing resolution at current spending levels rather than holding out for additional funding for Affordable Care Act subsidies. It is possible that this number was confused with a measure of blame.

 

[Moonglow]

The tariffs are bringing in 1 trillion a year and will pay off the deficit in 2 years. Inflation is slowing so prices have not gone up in any meaningful way.
Wages are up taxes cut for the middle class and seniors increasing spending power more than the effect of tariffs.
I dont see a problem

Actual collections: Official Treasury Department data shows that customs duties collected have soared in 2025 but remain far below the $1 trillion mark.

Back-to-back highs: August and September bring in $62.6B in tariff revenue

September tariff collections reached $31.3 billion as President Donald Trump's trade policies face a Supreme Court challenge over presidential authority to impose import taxes.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Hafar1014]

Actual collections: Official Treasury Department data shows that customs duties collected have soared in 2025 but remain far below the $1 trillion mark.

Back-to-back highs: August and September bring in $62.6B in tariff revenue

September tariff collections reached $31.3 billion as President Donald Trump's trade policies face a Supreme Court challenge over presidential authority to impose import taxes.

www.foxbusiness.com

Even if only part of the deficit is paid down eventually all of it will and that will lock in the election for any Republican. Today democrats are demanding more spending for illegals and left wing media.

 

[Moonglow]

Nah....
Trump is by far the most experienced president that's ever walked into the office. His experience in the private sector has proven far superior to the long line of community organizers and pantywaist
Soy boys that have tried to sit in that chair before him.

That is why the farmers are needing tha welfarez...Trump Boi to the rescue...

 

[justoffal]

That is why the farmers are needing tha welfarez...Trump Boi to the rescue...

Shhhhh..... Didn't tell anybody.... The farmers are pinching themselves to make sure they're not dreaming....millions of dollars for no work.....

 

[justoffal]

Even if only part of the deficit is paid down eventually all of it will and that will lock in the election for any Republican. Today democrats are demanding more spending for illegals and left wing media.

Yep....have to start somewhere