The Rotund One Blows It

[Flanders]

Had I not scratched NJ Governor Christie off my list of possible honest conservatives long before the 2012 election he would definitely be scratched today. J. Scott Smart is apparently a big supporter of the XVII Amendment:

During a press conference in Trenton Tuesday, Gov. Chris Christie called for a special election to fill the seat left vacant by the death of longtime Sen. Frank Lautenberg. A primary will be held Aug. 13, with the special election scheduled for Oct. 16.

“Today, we begin the process of guaranteeing the voters of New Jersey have a voice in the process,” Christie said. “The issues the Senate is facing are too important for the people of New Jersey not to have an elected representative who represents the will of the voters.”

Gov. Christie Calls for Special Election to Fill U.S. Senate Seat - East Windsor, NJ Patch

The Fat Man had a chance to take a small step towards repealing the XVII Amendment. Instead of appointing a conservative to finish out Lautenberg’s term —— as he would have done before the XVII Amendment —— he chose to give NJ voters a chance to send another liberal senator to a Senate already corrupted by Democrats. Christie’s decision makes me wonder if he is eating too many Wimp Burgers:

J. Wellington Wimpy​

Bottom line: anybody who believes the public should vote for US Senators should tattoo this on their forehead:

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

 

[Flanders]

Christie should not have donned his RINO suit until after he got to Washington:

Republicans are fuming over New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's decision to hold an early special election to fill the seat of the late Sen. Frank Lautenberg, with several Washington-based operatives suggesting he's putting his own interests ahead of the GOP's. The decision to hold a separate special election in October 2013-just two weeks before his own election-would give any interested Republican candidates little time to announce, organize a campaign, and raise the necessary money to take on a top-tier Democrat, likely Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

June 5, 2013
GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision
Rick Moran

Blog: GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision

Maybe I’m missing something here. The Tea Party Movement gets a lot of coverage, but the media never mentions the RINO Movement. I doubt if it can be called a grass roots movement, but longstanding RINO are being infused with new blood like Marco Rubio and Christie. It’s kind of funny when you realize that Tea Parties can leave the Republican party while RINO are stuck.

 

[Katzndogz]

Had I not scratched NJ Governor Christie off my list of possible honest conservatives long before the 2012 election he would definitely be scratched today. J. Scott Smart is apparently a big supporter of the XVII Amendment:

During a press conference in Trenton Tuesday, Gov. Chris Christie called for a special election to fill the seat left vacant by the death of longtime Sen. Frank Lautenberg. A primary will be held Aug. 13, with the special election scheduled for Oct. 16.

“Today, we begin the process of guaranteeing the voters of New Jersey have a voice in the process,” Christie said. “The issues the Senate is facing are too important for the people of New Jersey not to have an elected representative who represents the will of the voters.”

Gov. Christie Calls for Special Election to Fill U.S. Senate Seat - East Windsor, NJ Patch

The Fat Man had a chance to take a small step towards repealing the XVII Amendment. Instead of appointing a conservative to finish out Lautenberg’s term —— as he would have done before the XVII Amendment —— he chose to give NJ voters a chance to send another liberal senator to a Senate already corrupted by Democrats. Christie’s decision makes me wonder if he is eating too many Wimp Burgers:

J. Wellington Wimpy​

Bottom line: anybody who believes the public should vote for US Senators should tattoo this on their forehead:

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

Whatever gave you the idea that Christie was a conservative? Because he's a republican? The two terms are not synonyms.

 

[Flanders]

Whatever gave you the idea that Christie was a conservative? Because he's a republican? The two terms are not synonyms.

To Katzndogz: I never thought he was conservative. No politician from a Democrat welfare state can be conservative. The media billed him as a conservative because he stood up to NJ teachers’ unions. That remains his sole claim to conservatism.

The conservative image stuck for a while with a lot of help from the media. One of Ann Coulter’s few mistakes was in touting Christie early on. She has since seen the light. Move the cursor to 12:55

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMAQm1kw87o&feature=player_embedded]Ann Coulter Blasts Chris Christie In CPAC Speech 2013: He's 'Off My List' For 2016 - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Mr Natural]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

apparently not to Flanders.....he would rather have appointees than let the people vote for the one who will represent them.....

 

[Flanders]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

apparently not to Flanders.....he would rather have appointees than let the people vote for the one who will represent them.....

To Mr Clean and Harry Dresden: If you understood democracy you might not be so quick to support it.

For the umpteenth time the people who swoon at sound of the word should make an effort to understand how the XVI and XVII Amendments are destroying this country in the name of democracy.

In any event, responders like you cannot defend democracy, but they always give me the opportunity to post the following:

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other
49%. Thomas Jefferson

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. John Adams

Democracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few. John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, August 29, 1763

“The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.” John Quincy Adams

When the people find they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin

We are a Republican Government, Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of democracy...it has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity. Alexander Hamilton

Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy. Ron Paul

Democracy, then, in the centralizing, pattern-making, absolutist shape which we have given to it is, it is clear, the time of tyranny's incubation. Bertrand de Jouvenel

The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting. Charles Bukowski

The more I see of democracy the more I dislike it. It just brings everything down to the mere vulgar level of wages and prices, electric light and water closets, and nothing else. David Herbert Lawrence

Democracy means the opportunity to be everyone's slave. Karl Kraus

Democracy is supposed to give you the feeling of choice, like Painkiller X and Painkiller Y. But they're both just aspirin. Gore Vidal

Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates. Gore Vidal

Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least. Robert Byrne

On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. Will Rogers

Advertising is the very essence of democracy. Anton Chekhov

Democracy is like a streetcar. You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you step off. Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” H. L. Mencken

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is only a dream: it should be put in the same category as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and Heaven. H. L. Mencken

Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people. Oscar Wilde

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

Democracy gives every man the right to be his own oppressor. James Russell Lowell

It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning. George Orwell

Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty. Plato

Democracy passes into despotism. Plato

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is always going towards something worse; never towards liberty. Flanders

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle

Throughout history democracy has been the parasite’s preferred form of government. Flanders

 

[Harry Dresden]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

apparently not to Flanders.....he would rather have appointees than let the people vote for the one who will represent them.....

To Mr Clean and Harry Dresden: If you understood democracy you might not be so quick to support it.

For the umpteenth time the people who swoon at sound of the word should make an effort to understand how the XVI and XVII Amendments are destroying this country in the name of democracy.

In any event, responders like you cannot defend democracy, but they always give me the opportunity to post the following:

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other
49%. Thomas Jefferson

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. John Adams

Democracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few. John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, August 29, 1763

“The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.” John Quincy Adams

When the people find they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic. Benjamin Franklin

We are a Republican Government, Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of democracy...it has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity. Alexander Hamilton

Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy. Ron Paul

Democracy, then, in the centralizing, pattern-making, absolutist shape which we have given to it is, it is clear, the time of tyranny's incubation. Bertrand de Jouvenel

The difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is that in a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste your time voting. Charles Bukowski

The more I see of democracy the more I dislike it. It just brings everything down to the mere vulgar level of wages and prices, electric light and water closets, and nothing else. David Herbert Lawrence

Democracy means the opportunity to be everyone's slave. Karl Kraus

Democracy is supposed to give you the feeling of choice, like Painkiller X and Painkiller Y. But they're both just aspirin. Gore Vidal

Apparently, a democracy is a place where numerous elections are held at great cost without issues and with interchangeable candidates. Gore Vidal

Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least. Robert Byrne

On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. Will Rogers

Advertising is the very essence of democracy. Anton Chekhov

Democracy is like a streetcar. You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you step off. Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” H. L. Mencken

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. H. L. Mencken

Democracy is only a dream: it should be put in the same category as Arcadia, Santa Claus, and Heaven. H. L. Mencken

Democracy means simply the bludgeoning of the people by the people for the people. Oscar Wilde

An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. Voltaire

Democracy gives every man the right to be his own oppressor. James Russell Lowell

It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it; consequently, the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning. George Orwell

Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty. Plato

Democracy passes into despotism. Plato

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is always going towards something worse; never towards liberty. Flanders

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers. Aristotle

Throughout history democracy has been the parasite’s preferred form of government. Flanders

hey Flanders......if the guy was appointing someone to head up a State Committee or a person that works directly with him....that's one thing.....when it comes to someone who is supposed to be Representing my and the rest of the Citizens in the States interest.....i want a say in it.....if you cant understand that.....then that's your problem....

 

[mamooth]

Christie is doing what he does best, looking out for Christie.

He would have helped the GOP win the senate seat if he thought it was possible. But he looked at the list of clowns the Republicans had lined up, and concluded such a thing was impossible.

So, not wanting a Democratic landslide in the special election dragging him down as well, he scheduled the special election as soon as possible, so as to not coincide with his own election.

And, not wanting to be associated with some conservative crank seeking the senate seat, he chose a seatwarmer who wouldn't run in the special election.

 

[Two Thumbs]

You mad b/c people get to vote?




Fuck you

 

[whitehall]

For all his faults Christie is one of the better democrat politicians around. He was forced to run as a republican because there is no room in the democrat party for an independent thinker. I hope he does the right thing and comes out of the political closet like the governor of R.I.

 

[Rozman]

I think he is a Democrat at heart....

 

[Pogo]

Christie should not have donned his RINO suit until after he got to Washington:[/B]

Republicans are fuming over New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's decision to hold an early special election to fill the seat of the late Sen. Frank Lautenberg, with several Washington-based operatives suggesting he's putting his own interests ahead of the GOP's. The decision to hold a separate special election in October 2013-just two weeks before his own election-would give any interested Republican candidates little time to announce, organize a campaign, and raise the necessary money to take on a top-tier Democrat, likely Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

June 5, 2013
GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision
Rick Moran

Blog: GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision

Maybe I’m missing something here. The Tea Party Movement gets a lot of coverage, but the media never mentions the RINO Movement. I doubt if it can be called a grass roots movement, but longstanding RINO are being infused with new blood like Marco Rubio and Christie. It’s kind of funny when you realize that Tea Parties can leave the Republican party while RINO are stuck.

That's because there is no such thing as the "RINO Movement". What you call "RINOs" are the conservatives staying true to their philosophical roots who decline to bend over for the hair-on-fire Jerry Falwell/Michele Bachmann wingnuts in your endless and pointless pursuit of Eliminationist wackopolitik.

By the way --- what does Christie's weight have to do with anything?

 

[Politico]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

apparently not to Flanders.....he would rather have appointees than let the people vote for the one who will represent them.....

That's the communist way.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Um, how come I got a fart joke out of the headline? "rotunde one blows it"? Sorry I couldn't resist. :/

 

[Flanders]

Um, how come I got a fart joke out of the headline? "rotunde one blows it"? Sorry I couldn't resist. :/

To TemplarKormac: That’s okay. At least it wasn’t a sex joke.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Christie should not have donned his RINO suit until after he got to Washington:[/B]

Republicans are fuming over New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's decision to hold an early special election to fill the seat of the late Sen. Frank Lautenberg, with several Washington-based operatives suggesting he's putting his own interests ahead of the GOP's. The decision to hold a separate special election in October 2013-just two weeks before his own election-would give any interested Republican candidates little time to announce, organize a campaign, and raise the necessary money to take on a top-tier Democrat, likely Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

June 5, 2013
GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision
Rick Moran

Blog: GOP upset with Christie's Senate decision

Maybe I’m missing something here. The Tea Party Movement gets a lot of coverage, but the media never mentions the RINO Movement. I doubt if it can be called a grass roots movement, but longstanding RINO are being infused with new blood like Marco Rubio and Christie. It’s kind of funny when you realize that Tea Parties can leave the Republican party while RINO are stuck.

That's because there is no such thing as the "RINO Movement". What you call "RINOs" are the conservatives staying true to their philosophical roots who decline to bend over for the hair-on-fire Jerry Falwell/Michele Bachmann wingnuts in your endless and pointless pursuit of Eliminationist wackopolitik.

By the way --- what does Christie's weight have to do with anything?

It will be used against him, should he run for Pres.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Had I not scratched NJ Governor Christie off my list of possible honest conservatives long before the 2012 election he would definitely be scratched today. J. Scott Smart is apparently a big supporter of the XVII Amendment:

During a press conference in Trenton Tuesday, Gov. Chris Christie called for a special election to fill the seat left vacant by the death of longtime Sen. Frank Lautenberg. A primary will be held Aug. 13, with the special election scheduled for Oct. 16.

“Today, we begin the process of guaranteeing the voters of New Jersey have a voice in the process,” Christie said. “The issues the Senate is facing are too important for the people of New Jersey not to have an elected representative who represents the will of the voters.”

Gov. Christie Calls for Special Election to Fill U.S. Senate Seat - East Windsor, NJ Patch

The Fat Man had a chance to take a small step towards repealing the XVII Amendment. Instead of appointing a conservative to finish out Lautenberg’s term —— as he would have done before the XVII Amendment —— he chose to give NJ voters a chance to send another liberal senator to a Senate already corrupted by Democrats. Christie’s decision makes me wonder if he is eating too many Wimp Burgers:

J. Wellington Wimpy​

Bottom line: anybody who believes the public should vote for US Senators should tattoo this on their forehead:

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

why do we even have the senate

its role was cancelled years ago

 

[JoeB131]

Leaving it up to the voters to decide.

What a novel idea.

apparently not to Flanders.....he would rather have appointees than let the people vote for the one who will represent them.....

That said, a lot of what Christy is doing is pretty cynical.

First, he's divorcing the Special Senate Election from the State Governor's Election, because he knows with Corey Booker on the same ballot, that will increase Democratic turnout in the general, and lower his margin of victory.

The thing is, he has presidential ambtions that are probably being fed by the media telling him how awesome he is now. And he doesn't want to squeak by in November, he wants to win decisively.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

[idiotic bullshit snipped]

Instead of appointing a conservative to finish out Lautenberg’s term... [Christie]... chose to give NJ voters a chance to send another liberal senator... [snip]
Bottom line: anybody who believes the public should vote for US Senators should...[snip]

Ned reveals how the nutball element seek to destroy America: by limiting the rights of citizens to vote.

My question:
Why do nutballs hate America?

Discuss.