The relentless idiocy of equating "support for Israel" with "conservative"

[EMH]

It is perfectly clear that many here who ID as "conservative" have no clue what the word means

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"A conservative non-interventionist foreign policy emphasizes avoiding foreign entanglements, prioritizing national sovereignty, and maintaining a strong defense for self-defense rather than global nation-building. Rooted in historical American tradition, it champions "America First" principles, skeptical of foreign wars, foreign aid, and excessive trade, focusing instead on domestic stability and sovereignty"




"Supporting Israel" is 180 degrees the other way. Indeed, US support for Israel is BY FAR the most left wing foreign policy in US history. It completely violates every term of the definition.


Yet we don't go a full day here on USMB without someone claiming it is "conservative" to support Israel and "the libs" don't support Israel. Where does that BS originate?

Fox News???


Of course, there is nothing conservative about Fox News either. W went 8 years pursuing nothing but the most left wing policies across the board, yet somehow W was "conservative."





We as a nation cannot function if we don't speak the same language. The word conservative has a real meaning. The supporters of Israel on USMB pervert, subvert, and toss that actual definition in the trash to fit their treasonous views inside. That is why America is $40 trillion in debt. That is why the GOP is no longer actually conservative, as it was through the mid 1990s, which is when Fox News appeared.


Fox News is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democrat Party and the cause of left wing big government. The people who watch Fox News and consider it "conservative" are themselves 100% anti conservative. They should be called out as such, as they are now here....

 

[Mac1958]

I think there are many Americans (myself included) who don't give a crap one way or the other about Israel.

Looks to me like most of the interest from its supporters here is religious, and the profound damage caused by mixing politics and religion throughout world history isn't exactly a secret.

 

[knuckles]

Support for Israel does not fit neatly into the left/right paradigm.

 

[EMH]

I think there are many Americans (myself included) who don't give a crap one way or the other about Israel.

Looks to me like most of the interest from its supporters here is religious, and the profound damage caused by mixing politics and religion throughout world history isn't exactly a secret.

And there is NOTHING "conservative" about religion. Conservatives are skeptical. Religious morons parrot BS they are "certain" is true, and shout down those who question it.

 

[EMH]

Support for Israel does not fit neatly into the left/right paradigm.

WRONG

"support for Israel" is 100% pure LEFT WING foreign policy, always was...

 

[EMH]

and like everything else, the anti conservative Zionist Fascist treasonous white n-word self proclaimed sub human PRO ISRAEL CHRISTIANS

won't debate this, cannot refute it, and won't care, they will go right on claiming supporting Israel is "conservative" and only "the libs" don't.

 

[Rambunctious]

It is perfectly clear that many here who ID as "conservative" have no clue what the word means

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GoogAI

"A conservative non-interventionist foreign policy emphasizes avoiding foreign entanglements, prioritizing national sovereignty, and maintaining a strong defense for self-defense rather than global nation-building. Rooted in historical American tradition, it champions "America First" principles, skeptical of foreign wars, foreign aid, and excessive trade, focusing instead on domestic stability and sovereignty"




"Supporting Israel" is 180 degrees the other way. Indeed, US support for Israel is BY FAR the most left wing foreign policy in US history. It completely violates every term of the definition.


Yet we don't go a full day here on USMB without someone claiming it is "conservative" to support Israel and "the libs" don't support Israel. Where does that BS originate?

Fox News???


Of course, there is nothing conservative about Fox News either. W went 8 years pursuing nothing but the most left wing policies across the board, yet somehow W was "conservative."





We as a nation cannot function if we don't speak the same language. The word conservative has a real meaning. The supporters of Israel on USMB pervert, subvert, and toss that actual definition in the trash to fit their treasonous views inside. That is why America is $40 trillion in debt. That is why the GOP is no longer actually conservative, as it was through the mid 1990s, which is when Fox News appeared.


Fox News is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democrat Party and the cause of left wing big government. The people who watch Fox News and consider it "conservative" are themselves 100% anti conservative. They should be called out as such, as they are now here....

I remember when Iran took and held our embassy staff and when they drove a bomb filled truck into our Marine Barracks.... and all the maimed and dead service members who happened on Iranian made IEDs....
If its not conservative to want revenge for such acts then fine I'm not your style of conservative....
I'm a patriot first and stand behind our men and women in uniform...
And I do not fold when my nation has been under attack for 60 years by these 12th century clerics....

 

[EMH]

when they drove a bomb filled truck into our Marine Barracks

Lying for the cause of Zionist Fascism is what you do. The original accusation was that Hezbo did it. Non Zionist Fascist Jew Caspar Weinberger ruled out Hezbo as a suspect. Two weeks later, two Mossad in islamic drag claimed they were from "Islamic Jihad" and they did it. We did not hear of "Islamic Jihad" again for two plus decades until the Fox News show "24."

Mossad offed our Marines, hate hoaxed it on Hezbo, got busted lying about that, and created a BS "group" to take credit that never existed.

remember when Iran took and held our embassy staff

If a foreign country installed a dictator of America who offed Americans opposed to him, and then we overthrew that dictator, we would not be happy with that country's "embassy staff" either.

maimed and dead service members who happened on Iranian made IEDs.

After all of the now outed lies used to sell out our troops in Iraq, the self proclaimed sub human still parrots those lies.

What happened? Exactly what Schwarzkopf and others said would happen, a Sunni-Shia civil war. But the IQ<5 treasonous moron Fox News viewers were told that was "Al Qaeda" vs "insurgents armed by Iran."

All of the Americans who died in Iraq are dead because

1. W is the worst traitor in US history
2. every excuse used to invade Iraq was a lie
3. those who opposed invading Iraq were 100% validated by what happened



And, of course, the 100% anti conservative treasonous white n words did not learn a thing from it....

 

[Rambunctious]

If a foreign country installed a dictator of America who offed Americans opposed to him, and then we overthrew that dictator, we would not be happy with that country's "embassy staff" either.

And we would not take their people hostage... don't excuse Iran you jew hating Mfer...

 

[EMH]

And we would not take their people hostage... don't excuse Iran you jew hating Mfer...

Really, what would we do?

Just let them go and say thank you?

 

[Rambunctious]

Really, what would we do?

Just let them go and say thank you?

Civilized nations don't take hostages... maybe that's your problem you didn't know that... well its true there's a difference between civilized and barbaric... your favored nations are the latter....

 

[BrokeLoser]

I think there are many Americans (myself included) who don't give a crap one way or the other about Israel.

Looks to me like most of the interest from its supporters here is religious, and the profound damage caused by mixing politics and religion throughout world history isn't exactly a secret.

It is perfectly clear that many here who ID as "conservative" have no clue what the word means

Google Search

GoogAI

"A conservative non-interventionist foreign policy emphasizes avoiding foreign entanglements, prioritizing national sovereignty, and maintaining a strong defense for self-defense rather than global nation-building. Rooted in historical American tradition, it champions "America First" principles, skeptical of foreign wars, foreign aid, and excessive trade, focusing instead on domestic stability and sovereignty"




"Supporting Israel" is 180 degrees the other way. Indeed, US support for Israel is BY FAR the most left wing foreign policy in US history. It completely violates every term of the definition.


Yet we don't go a full day here on USMB without someone claiming it is "conservative" to support Israel and "the libs" don't support Israel. Where does that BS originate?

Fox News???


Of course, there is nothing conservative about Fox News either. W went 8 years pursuing nothing but the most left wing policies across the board, yet somehow W was "conservative."





We as a nation cannot function if we don't speak the same language. The word conservative has a real meaning. The supporters of Israel on USMB pervert, subvert, and toss that actual definition in the trash to fit their treasonous views inside. That is why America is $40 trillion in debt. That is why the GOP is no longer actually conservative, as it was through the mid 1990s, which is when Fox News appeared.


Fox News is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democrat Party and the cause of left wing big government. The people who watch Fox News and consider it "conservative" are themselves 100% anti conservative. They should be called out as such, as they are now here....

Good real core Americans / Conservatives tend to be supportive of Israel for a number of reasons while the pieces of filthy dogshit among us tend to be supportive of ragheads and Mexico’s people…They champion all who phuck us over, maim, rape and murder our sons and daughters and destroy western culture.

 

[gipper]

It is perfectly clear that many here who ID as "conservative" have no clue what the word means

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GoogAI

"A conservative non-interventionist foreign policy emphasizes avoiding foreign entanglements, prioritizing national sovereignty, and maintaining a strong defense for self-defense rather than global nation-building. Rooted in historical American tradition, it champions "America First" principles, skeptical of foreign wars, foreign aid, and excessive trade, focusing instead on domestic stability and sovereignty"




"Supporting Israel" is 180 degrees the other way. Indeed, US support for Israel is BY FAR the most left wing foreign policy in US history. It completely violates every term of the definition.


Yet we don't go a full day here on USMB without someone claiming it is "conservative" to support Israel and "the libs" don't support Israel. Where does that BS originate?

Fox News???


Of course, there is nothing conservative about Fox News either. W went 8 years pursuing nothing but the most left wing policies across the board, yet somehow W was "conservative."





We as a nation cannot function if we don't speak the same language. The word conservative has a real meaning. The supporters of Israel on USMB pervert, subvert, and toss that actual definition in the trash to fit their treasonous views inside. That is why America is $40 trillion in debt. That is why the GOP is no longer actually conservative, as it was through the mid 1990s, which is when Fox News appeared.


Fox News is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democrat Party and the cause of left wing big government. The people who watch Fox News and consider it "conservative" are themselves 100% anti conservative. They should be called out as such, as they are now here....

Don certainly campaigned on the conservative principles of nonintervention and America first, but then the traitorous Zionist billionaire cabal surrounding him took control. Blackmail may plan a part.

Amazingly many so called conservatives like those who post here, threw away their conservative principles to support a foreign nation.

TRAITORS!

 

[gipper]

I remember when Iran took and held our embassy staff and when they drove a bomb filled truck into our Marine Barracks.... and all the maimed and dead service members who happened on Iranian made IEDs....
If its not conservative to want revenge for such acts then fine I'm not your style of conservative....
I'm a patriot first and stand behind our men and women in uniform...
And I do not fold when my nation has been under attack for 60 years by these 12th century clerics....

Could you now outline all the heinous actions the US government has taken against Iran since 1954?

 

[Independent thinker]

It is perfectly clear that many here who ID as "conservative" have no clue what the word means

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GoogAI

"A conservative non-interventionist foreign policy emphasizes avoiding foreign entanglements, prioritizing national sovereignty, and maintaining a strong defense for self-defense rather than global nation-building. Rooted in historical American tradition, it champions "America First" principles, skeptical of foreign wars, foreign aid, and excessive trade, focusing instead on domestic stability and sovereignty"




"Supporting Israel" is 180 degrees the other way. Indeed, US support for Israel is BY FAR the most left wing foreign policy in US history. It completely violates every term of the definition.


Yet we don't go a full day here on USMB without someone claiming it is "conservative" to support Israel and "the libs" don't support Israel. Where does that BS originate?

Fox News???


Of course, there is nothing conservative about Fox News either. W went 8 years pursuing nothing but the most left wing policies across the board, yet somehow W was "conservative."





We as a nation cannot function if we don't speak the same language. The word conservative has a real meaning. The supporters of Israel on USMB pervert, subvert, and toss that actual definition in the trash to fit their treasonous views inside. That is why America is $40 trillion in debt. That is why the GOP is no longer actually conservative, as it was through the mid 1990s, which is when Fox News appeared.


Fox News is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Democrat Party and the cause of left wing big government. The people who watch Fox News and consider it "conservative" are themselves 100% anti conservative. They should be called out as such, as they are now here....

You apparently have no clue that most on both the left and the right support Israel. You also seem to have no clue that any of those who support Israel aren't going to change their minds because of your posts. So, you're wasting your breath.

 

[EMH]

Civilized nations don't take hostages

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"During WWII, the U.S. government forcibly incarcerated over 120,000 people of Japanese descent—most being American citizens—in ten remote "relocation centers" between 1942 and 1945"




You can't pass a 3rd grade math course, you self ID with a word you cannot define properly, and pervert it to fit your truly sick treasonous bigotry and "views," and you don't even have American history correct either.



Hint - taking "hostages" is actually an improvement over what Israel just did in Gaza....

 

[EMH]

Good real core Americans / Conservatives

actually have an IQ over 5 and a molecule of patriotism to America, you don't....

 

[EMH]

Don certainly campaigned on the conservative principles of nonintervention and America first, but then the traitorous Zionist billionaire cabal surrounding him took control. Blackmail may plan a part.

Amazingly many so called conservatives like those who post here, threw away their conservative principles to support a foreign nation.

TRAITORS!

It is sad. Hopefully Trump will get a clue and push back against Ratcliffe, Hegseth, and #4 Bibi.

 

[martybegan]

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"During WWII, the U.S. government forcibly incarcerated over 120,000 people of Japanese descent—most being American citizens—in ten remote "relocation centers" between 1942 and 1945"




You can't pass a 3rd grade math course, you self ID with a word you cannot define properly, and pervert it to fit your truly sick treasonous bigotry and "views," and you don't even have American history correct either.



Hint - taking "hostages" is actually an improvement over what Israel just did in Gaza....

The Japanese detainees weren't hostages, because Imperial Japan didn't give a **** about what we did with them.

That was a paranoia fuckup on the part of the Government at the time, and it was a Fuckup.

 

[EMH]

You apparently have no clue that most on both the left and the right support Israel.

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Not what the polls show. The polls show "Republicans" are 80% "pro Israel," 6% of Dems are. Moderates are in the 20%.


Overall it adds up to 70-30 Americans now oppose Israel.