The power to ban firearms...?

[M14 Shooter]

Until the ratification of the 18th amendment, the federal government did not have the power to ban alcohol.

Given that, from where, specifically, does it derive the power to ban guns?

 

[Mr. H.]

Obama's butt?

 

[HenryBHough]

Obama's butt?

A somewhat thin premise.

Now if were The First Female's....then we might well be concerned.

 

[bucs90]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

 

[HenryBHough]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

If not within reach of the driver or passengers, why the hell not? Safer there where children might get to playing with them!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

What does that have to do with owning a gun?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

Neither of which are firearms, go figure.

 

[bucs90]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

If not within reach of the driver or passengers, why the hell not? Safer there where children might get to playing with them!

What good are "arms" if they aren't within my reach?

And WHO says I can have them within reach? The government?

I either CAN bear any "arms" I want, or I cannot. Which is it?

 

[bucs90]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

Neither of which are firearms, go figure.

No, but they are "arms". In the state of SC, a firearm is defined as "any object which hurls a projectile via an explosion". So, gunpowder hurling a hollow point, or, an explosive hurling grenade fragments or an RPG.

All are "arms".

Which "arms" can the government infringe upon me owning?

 

[bucs90]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

What does that have to do with owning a gun?

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

 

[KevinWestern]

Should I be able to have an RPG and hand grenades in my truck?

Yes or no.

Its really that simple.

What does that have to do with owning a gun?

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

 

[WinterBorn]

What does that have to do with owning a gun?

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Another thing to bear in mind, since the liberals have made guns "evil", fewer and fewer young people receive any firearms training. Consequently, the number of accidental shootings has grown MUCH faster than homicides.

Talk to older Americans and see if they weren't taught to shoot and handle a gun safely when they were children. I was and so was my Dad & Grandfather.

My Dad was on his high school rifle team. And that was before it meant twirling a toy gun.

 

[bucs90]

What does that have to do with owning a gun?

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Yes, and some people want AR15's banned. That's why it is a RIGHT that cannot be infringed on by most people, some people or a few people. Its either an absolute RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS or it isn't.

I agree on the focus on inner city youth. As well as we should toughen up gun laws and sentencing, and REFUND mental health departments to deal with that.


BUT, if the right to bear arms "cannot be infringed upon", then I should be allowed to own a rocket launcher and some grenades. Right? If not, then the right CAN be infringed upon, and thus, the Constitution's 2nd amendment doesn't mean what it says.

 

[bucs90]

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Another thing to bear in mind, since the liberals have made guns "evil", fewer and fewer young people receive any firearms training. Consequently, the number of accidental shootings has grown MUCH faster than homicides.

Talk to older Americans and see if they weren't taught to shoot and handle a gun safely when they were children. I was and so was my Dad & Grandfather.

My Dad was on his high school rifle team. And that was before it meant twirling a toy gun.

You are right about this. Which is why it is dangerous that some of these redneck yahoos who want to carry guns in bars now get to do so in many states. They have no training with the gun.

A license to own a gun, just like driving a car, would help. At least some of the accidents by lawfully carrying gun owners would go down. The unlawful carriers, that's another story.

 

[KevinWestern]

Another thing to bear in mind, since the liberals have made guns "evil", fewer and fewer young people receive any firearms training. Consequently, the number of accidental shootings has grown MUCH faster than homicides.

Talk to older Americans and see if they weren't taught to shoot and handle a gun safely when they were children. I was and so was my Dad & Grandfather.

My Dad was on his high school rifle team. And that was before it meant twirling a toy gun.

Yea, as I mentioned I just hate the political games some of these Democrats are playing to win over their audiences. Gun violence IS an issue here in the US, but it's almost all directly related to poverty/gangs/etc.

I just want people to address things as they are, and utilize statistics to direct their focus.

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[LordBrownTrout]

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Another thing to bear in mind, since the liberals have made guns "evil", fewer and fewer young people receive any firearms training. Consequently, the number of accidental shootings has grown MUCH faster than homicides.

Talk to older Americans and see if they weren't taught to shoot and handle a gun safely when they were children. I was and so was my Dad & Grandfather.

My Dad was on his high school rifle team. And that was before it meant twirling a toy gun.

Now kids get handcuffed and scurried away when they make a pop tart look like a gun.

 

[bucs90]

The gun issue has certainly become a hot potato that BOTH sides are politicizing to try to win votes.

 

[KevinWestern]

Nothing.

It has to do with my God given inalienable right to bear "ARMS" which the government cannot infringe on.

So....will the GOP defend my right to have grenades in my truck? If so, they may get my vote back. If they'll just come out and run on what they mean. RPG. Grenade. Claymore mine.

How I defend my home, and with what arms, are NOT the government's business. Run on it. You'll get my vote back.

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Yes, and some people want AR15's banned. That's why it is a RIGHT that cannot be infringed on by most people, some people or a few people. Its either an absolute RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS or it isn't.

I agree on the focus on inner city youth. As well as we should toughen up gun laws and sentencing, and REFUND mental health departments to deal with that.


BUT, if the right to bear arms "cannot be infringed upon", then I should be allowed to own a rocket launcher and some grenades. Right? If not, then the right CAN be infringed upon, and thus, the Constitution's 2nd amendment doesn't mean what it says.

But why ban AR-15s? They're just a rifle, and (out of all the millions of things that kill people) are definitely not anywhere at the top of the list. In fact, they might be pretty close to the bottom next to lightning.

What if I live in a rural area and want to keep one for protection?

 

[WinterBorn]

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Another thing to bear in mind, since the liberals have made guns "evil", fewer and fewer young people receive any firearms training. Consequently, the number of accidental shootings has grown MUCH faster than homicides.

Talk to older Americans and see if they weren't taught to shoot and handle a gun safely when they were children. I was and so was my Dad & Grandfather.

My Dad was on his high school rifle team. And that was before it meant twirling a toy gun.

You are right about this. Which is why it is dangerous that some of these redneck yahoos who want to carry guns in bars now get to do so in many states. They have no training with the gun.

A license to own a gun, just like driving a car, would help. At least some of the accidents by lawfully carrying gun owners would go down. The unlawful carriers, that's another story.

Do you know of any states in which you can get a permit to carry without any training?

Also, your constant referral to rednecks shows your own ignorance. Most of the rednecks I know were taught firearm safety as children when they were taught to hunt. Perhaps you mean something else. At any rate, your bigotry and ignorance is noted.

 

[bucs90]

I think most people are fine with making things like Grenades/RPG/fully automatic weapons illegal for the general population. Not sure why you keep bringing this up. The conversation President Obama started was banning a type of semi-automatic RIFLE, which (to me at least) is totally unnecessary.

Rifles - as a whole group - account for maybe 300 homicides/year. AR-15's? Maybe 15 people/year. In a country of 300 MILLION people that is an extremely, extremely small number. The man is playing political games and you're falling for it hook, line and sinker.

You want to make an impact on gun violence? Start figuring out ways to help educate youngsters in the inner cities and make sure they complete high school and go to college. Now that is something I can stand behind.

Quit wasting your time dude on this AR-15 thing. It's a political talking point designed to get folks exactly like yourself all wound up. Don't be a dupe.

Yes, and some people want AR15's banned. That's why it is a RIGHT that cannot be infringed on by most people, some people or a few people. Its either an absolute RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS or it isn't.

I agree on the focus on inner city youth. As well as we should toughen up gun laws and sentencing, and REFUND mental health departments to deal with that.


BUT, if the right to bear arms "cannot be infringed upon", then I should be allowed to own a rocket launcher and some grenades. Right? If not, then the right CAN be infringed upon, and thus, the Constitution's 2nd amendment doesn't mean what it says.

But why ban AR-15s? They're just a rifle, and (out of all the millions of things that kill people) are definitely not anywhere at the top of the list. In fact, they might be pretty close to the bottom next to lightning.

What if I live in a rural area and want to keep one for protection?

I'm ok with AR15's. I wouldn't support a ban on them. I own a Rock River in fact. Great gun.

My point is....is the right to bear arms absolute? Or, can it be restricted?

I support a law that mandates a license to own a gun, period. Caught without a license, you get a stiff sentence.

Eventually, we'd weed out some of the gun toting thugs. Now, if they get caught carrying w/o a permit, they get a day in jail and probation. Make it a mandatory 5 year sentence just for having one without a license, and the thugs think twice.

Im not about limiting availability. Just limiting access. A difference. AR15's in the right hands are great. ANY gun in the wrong hands is bad.