The Left's Campaign to Neuter the Constitution

[DGS49]

In the linked article, Professor Turley details the Left's ongoing campaign to neuter (or re-write) the Constitution along Leftist ideological guidelines, by compromising the Supreme Court and other means. The headlines are constantly aflame with outraged reactions to cases like Roe v Wade, with no mind to consider that it was a completely proper decision - in Constitutional terms, not even a controversial one.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-lefts-assault-on-the-constitution-pack-the-court-attack-free-speech-kamala-harris-47a78eda?st=2cR3Gk

My own pet peeve is the rewriting of Article I, giving Congress the power to do pretty much anything it wants to do, unrestrained by Article I OR the Tenth Amendment, whose meaning is clear. But it would take balls the size of watermelons for any Congressperson to address that outrage.

 

[rampart]

In the linked article, Professor Turley details the Left's ongoing campaign to neuter (or re-write) the Constitution along Leftist ideological guidelines, by compromising the Supreme Court and other means. The headlines are constantly aflame with outraged reactions to cases like Roe v Wade, with no mind to consider that it was a completely proper decision - in Constitutional terms, not even a controversial one.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-lefts-assault-on-the-constitution-pack-the-court-attack-free-speech-kamala-harris-47a78eda?st=2cR3Gk

My own pet peeve is the rewriting of Article I, giving Congress the power to do pretty much anything it wants to do, unrestrained by Article I OR the Tenth Amendment, whose meaning is clear. But it would take balls the size of watermelons for any Congressperson to address that outrage.

wasn;'t us who made corporations into immortal "people" or claimed the founders were wrong about "all equal under law, " "septation of powers" and "checks and balances? " did you take high school civics?

 

[DGS49]

wasn;'t us who made corporations into immortal "people" or claimed the founders were wrong about "all equal under law, " "septation of powers" and "checks and balances? " did you take high school civics?

Yes. And I graduated from Law School, as well as grade school spelling.

Corporations are fictitious "persons," as anyone with a three-digit IQ knows.

 

[M14 Shooter]

My own pet peeve is the rewriting of Article I, giving Congress the power to do pretty much anything it wants to do, unrestrained by Article I OR the Tenth Amendment, whose meaning is clear. But it would take balls the size of watermelons for any Congressperson to address that outrage.

Or, a SCotUS willing to roll back some of it's more egregious rulings.
Looking at you, Wickard.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

The Constitution is junk. The inadequacy causes the political contest to populate the branches with partisan-aligned personnel.

You need to stop pretending that you do not see the inadequacy.

Although, Federalist Paper #51 prescribes that the Constitution is supposed to supply each branch with a will of its own. They were unable to do it, and it is obvious that it does not work

The Avalon Project : Federalist No 51 In order to lay a due foundation for that separate and distinct exercise of the different powers of government, which to a certain extent is admitted on all hands to be essential to the preservation of liberty, it is evident that each department should have a will of its own; and consequently should be so constituted that the members of each should have as little agency as possible in the appointment of the members of the others.

The absolute truth is that a three-branch government only prevents any one person
from ascending to a dictatorship. The inconvenient truth is that neither the separation
nor the checks and balances prevent corruption or control the quality of the inevitable
oligarchy that is formed from the peer groups in the echelons of the government.

Just because the Constitution is better than any other, does not mean that there are
no consequences if it is not perfect. We are at that juncture. We are enduring the
consequences. Domestic tranquility has been forfeited and the people’s sense of justice
has been appropriated by the improperly formulated political parties generated from
the inadequate separation formula of the government.

Simple analysis reveals that the system of law produced is the variable inadequately
controlled in the design of the system. Law is what is used to convert the people’s will
into government powers. Combining that with the advanced understanding of the
inadequacies of the three-branch system leads to the calculation that the separation of
government might be better demarcated by certain sections of the law, and then those
partitions are subdivided into the inherently cooperative three processes. Although
there are many sections of the law, there are just a handful of sections that are
significant to the government powers, and all of the other sections fall under those in
an orderly formulation to fulfill the missions of the partitions and the checks and
balances of the powers.

US4CC

The United States Fourth Continental Congress is Commissioned to Identify a Reliable Government Model, and Deliberate and Validate a Reliable Government Charter System for the succeeding Trials of the American Experiment.

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[Oddball]

The Left's Campaign to Neuter the Constitution​

That campaign has been in full gear since at least Woodrow Wilson.

 

[Oddball]

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The Constitution is junk. The inadequacy causes the political contest to populate the branches with partisan-aligned personnel.

You need to stop pretending that you do not see the inadequacy.

Although, Federalist Paper #51 prescribes that the Constitution is supposed to supply each branch with a will of its own. They were unable to do it, and it is obvious that it does not work




The absolute truth is that a three-branch government only prevents any one person
from ascending to a dictatorship. The inconvenient truth is that neither the separation
nor the checks and balances prevent corruption or control the quality of the inevitable
oligarchy that is formed from the peer groups in the echelons of the government.

Just because the Constitution is better than any other, does not mean that there are
no consequences if it is not perfect. We are at that juncture. We are enduring the
consequences. Domestic tranquility has been forfeited and the people’s sense of justice
has been appropriated by the improperly formulated political parties generated from
the inadequate separation formula of the government.

Simple analysis reveals that the system of law produced is the variable inadequately
controlled in the design of the system. Law is what is used to convert the people’s will
into government powers. Combining that with the advanced understanding of the
inadequacies of the three-branch system leads to the calculation that the separation of
government might be better demarcated by certain sections of the law, and then those
partitions are subdivided into the inherently cooperative three processes. Although
there are many sections of the law, there are just a handful of sections that are
significant to the government powers, and all of the other sections fall under those in
an orderly formulation to fulfill the missions of the partitions and the checks and
balances of the powers.

US4CC

The United States Fourth Continental Congress is Commissioned to Identify a Reliable Government Model, and Deliberate and Validate a Reliable Government Charter System for the succeeding Trials of the American Experiment.

sites.google.com

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Oddball's meme, fits his thinking. The U.S. Constitution gives us the Bill of Rights and Constitutional checks and balances.
What you don't want is a one-party/group only government. Once you have that, you no longer have what freedoms were listed in the Amendments.

 

[ScanMan]

Although, Federalist Paper #51 prescribes that the Constitution is supposed to supply each branch with a will of its own.

Well, the Judiciary was supposed not to have a will other than to execute its own internal functions.

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[$ecular#eckler]

ScanMan

Okay, so, what does it mean when the pundits claim that he "packed the court," or that "he wants to create more seats to pack the court," if it does not mean that the "internal functions," and external functions cannot be manipulated by partisan alignment?

It's a mess, and we need to stop pretending that the government was configured in such a manner that it is worth the frustration that it causes.

 

[PeterPilot]

As others have pointed out, the effort to destroy the founding document has come from both sides of the aisle. Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act and other illegitimate legislation were passed by huge margins, both parties participating.

The document has not failed, the humans administering it have failed.

 

[JohnDB]

There is no rule the Democrats won't break:

 

[rampart]

ScanMan

Okay, so, what does it mean when the pundits claim that he "packed the court," or that "he wants to create more seats to pack the court," if it does not mean that the "internal functions," and external functions cannot be manipulated by partisan alignment?

It's a mess, and we need to stop pretending that the government was configured in such a manner that it is worth the frustration that it causes.

i'm not sure we'd come to the same solutions, but this blind faith in the divine inspiratio9n that guided the founders is a little nauseating,

the founders were as partisan and self interested as anyone today. even reference to the federalist papers to the near exclusion of the anti federalist opinions is itself a partisan (or internal faction of the repubs) choice.

what checks or balances do we have on a unitary executive , immune from prosecution and protected from impeachment by partisanship?

 

[JohnDB]

 

[PeterPilot]

i'm not sure we'd come to the same solutions, but this blind faith in the divine inspiratio9n that guided the founders is a little nauseating,

the founders were as partisan and self interested as anyone today. even reference to the federalist papers to the near exclusion of the anti federalist opinions is itself a partisan (or internal faction of the repubs) choice.

what checks or balances do we have on a unitary executive , immune from prosecution and protected from impeachment by partisanship?

It was not intended to be a Unitary Executive by the founders, but it became so because Dick & Dubya asserted that bit of sophistry, and of course congress went along with it by way of AUMF

 

[LibertyKid]

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The Constitution is junk. The inadequacy causes the political contest to populate the branches with partisan-aligned personnel.

You need to stop pretending that you do not see the inadequacy.

Although, Federalist Paper #51 prescribes that the Constitution is supposed to supply each branch with a will of its own. They were unable to do it, and it is obvious that it does not work




The absolute truth is that a three-branch government only prevents any one person
from ascending to a dictatorship. The inconvenient truth is that neither the separation
nor the checks and balances prevent corruption or control the quality of the inevitable
oligarchy that is formed from the peer groups in the echelons of the government.

Just because the Constitution is better than any other, does not mean that there are
no consequences if it is not perfect. We are at that juncture. We are enduring the
consequences. Domestic tranquility has been forfeited and the people’s sense of justice
has been appropriated by the improperly formulated political parties generated from
the inadequate separation formula of the government.

Simple analysis reveals that the system of law produced is the variable inadequately
controlled in the design of the system. Law is what is used to convert the people’s will
into government powers. Combining that with the advanced understanding of the
inadequacies of the three-branch system leads to the calculation that the separation of
government might be better demarcated by certain sections of the law, and then those
partitions are subdivided into the inherently cooperative three processes. Although
there are many sections of the law, there are just a handful of sections that are
significant to the government powers, and all of the other sections fall under those in
an orderly formulation to fulfill the missions of the partitions and the checks and
balances of the powers.

US4CC

The United States Fourth Continental Congress is Commissioned to Identify a Reliable Government Model, and Deliberate and Validate a Reliable Government Charter System for the succeeding Trials of the American Experiment.

sites.google.com

We the people, are the ones that prevent the corruption. We the people are the ones that should recognize the perversion of authority and squash it. Yet, we the people no longer care, and perhaps the majority want to replace We the People with "Them the Gov't" to rule for us. That's the problem. Americans have become politically ignorant and lazy. We have traded state control for worship of Federal "Monarchy".

I would wager that most people, if asked, would abolish state lines and constitutions and move everything under federal control. Why, because they are ignorant gov't loving sheep.

Our Constitutional/Federal Republic was built on a system so that the 51% doesn't rule over the 49%.

 

[LibertyKid]

Oddball's meme, fits his thinking. The U.S. Constitution gives us the Bill of Rights and Constitutional checks and balances.
What you don't want is a one-party/group only government. Once you have that, you no longer have what freedoms were listed in the Amendments.

 

[PeterPilot]

I think it was George Washington who noted that government is rather like fire, a useful servant but a fearsome master.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Or, a SCotUS willing to roll back some of it's more egregious rulings.
Looking at you, Wickard.

Probably the worst SCOTUS decision in history.

 

[Crepitus]

In the linked article, Professor Turley details the Left's ongoing campaign to neuter (or re-write) the Constitution along Leftist ideological guidelines, by compromising the Supreme Court and other means. The headlines are constantly aflame with outraged reactions to cases like Roe v Wade, with no mind to consider that it was a completely proper decision - in Constitutional terms, not even a controversial one.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-lefts-assault-on-the-constitution-pack-the-court-attack-free-speech-kamala-harris-47a78eda?st=2cR3Gk

My own pet peeve is the rewriting of Article I, giving Congress the power to do pretty much anything it wants to do, unrestrained by Article I OR the Tenth Amendment, whose meaning is clear. But it would take balls the size of watermelons for any Congressperson to address that outrage.

The only thing neutered here is tuRley.