The Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet and Shalom in the Middle East?

[DennisPTate]

As many of you know the surface ice and snow on the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet is getting darker and is absorbing a higher amount of solar energy.

I believe that President Donald J. Trump is being led by the right hand by God, to be talking about this topic because the potential is huge.

Everybody who lives in the USA State of Alaska and the Yukon Territories, Northwest Territories, Nunuvut and Labrador know that Canada's Arctic ice warming.

Because the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet is NOT sitting in the North Atlantic and Arctic Oceans it will cause ocean levels to rise if and when a huge amount of icebergs begin to slide into the North Atlantic and Arctic Oceans.

The USA needs Greenland for military bases because a good case can be presented that we are in the ECONOMIC part of WWIII against China, [and if Russia in desperation decides to ally with China, then the whole situation could get quite nasty]!

Most of us would have a broken arm if YHWH was leading us by the right hand!

[Isaiah 45]

1 Thus saith the Lord to my anointed Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue nations before his face, and to turn the backs of kings, and to open the doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut. 2 I will go before thee, and will humble the great ones of the earth: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and will burst the bars of iron. 3 And I will give thee hidden treasures, and the concealed riches of secret places: that thou mayest know that I am the Lord who call thee by thy name, the God of Israel. 4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have made a likeness of thee, and thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else: there is no God, besides me: I girded thee, and thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know who are from the rising of the sun, and they who are from the west, that there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is none else: 7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things. 8 Drop down dew, ye heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the just: let the earth be opened, and bud forth a saviour: and let justice spring up together: I the Lord have created him. 9 Woe to him that gainsayeth his maker, a sherd of the earthen pots: shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it: What art thou making, and thy work is without hands? 10 Woe to him that saith to his father: Why begettest thou? and to the woman: Why dost thou bring forth?

11 Thus saith the Lord the Holy One of Israel, his maker: Ask me of things to come, concerning my children, and concerning the work of my hands give ye charge to me. 12 I made the earth: and I created man upon it: my hand stretched forth the heavens, and I have commanded all their host. 13 I have raised him up to justice, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and let go my captives, not for ransom, nor for presents, saith the Lord the God of hosts.

I am of the belief that an ancient ISLAMIC Hadith that fits perfectly with Isaiah chapter thirty five holds the key to Economic Cooperation and Shalom in the Middle East. Turning deserts green out of a healthy fear of an eventually truly "green, Greenland" fits with an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that would be good news for all of us.

An alternative theory on stabilization of the climate through turning deserts green could play an important role in the defeat of a possibly combined China plus Russia attack against the USA and the allies of the USA, including Israel!

I have read that the underground water aquifers under Libya, Algeria, Israel and many other Middle Eastern nations are depleted due to how much they have been used over these past decades.

These underground aquifers are perfect storage places for H2O so that that water IS NOT on top of real estate that is vulnerable to rising ocean levels.

In a way as long as these aquifers are holding H2O so that it is NOT on top of Miami, New York, New Orleans,
The Netherlands, The Maldive Islands, Bermuda, The Turks and Caicos islands and on top of the Isthmus of Chignecto between
the Canadian Provinces of Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and the USA State of Maine, then in my opinion those
now seriously depleted underground aquifers are being VERY USEFUL!

"Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?"

"If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would
the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue?

The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus......
it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live.

So... could high tide levels near TRuro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters?" [Dennis Tate, March 7, 2021]

The Bay of Fundy has the world's highest tides due to the fact that high tide levels are FUNNELLED into a more and more narrow area.......... and...... the BAy of Fundy is more than 170 miles long... so the volume of H2O coming into the Fundy during High Tide is actually a rather colossal amount of water!

As you can see from my 2008 campaign writing.....
I rather vehement disagree with the Al Gore Carbon Tax solution to climate change.... and I prefer the idea put forward by New Mexico biologist and Coach Mr. Carl Cantrell.

Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.

"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breathe, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere.. ."

"Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes...."

"Just take a look at any satellite picture of the earth showing heat and you will see that our deserts are the warmest spots on the planet by far. More heat is being generated by just one of the top four or five deserts than by all of our cities combined.... "

"The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave…."

"So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive…."

"Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…"

"We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell)."

Another promising method to green the deserts is to use hydrogen fuel cell technology to power vehicles in the hottest and driest regions of the earth. Imagine millions of vehicles across the Sahara, the Middle East, near the US Mojave desert and in the outback of Australia all spewing harmless water vapor as exhaust! Rest assured humidity and rainfall will increase in those areas and vegetation will grow.

Last week I wrote a lengthy e-mail to Green Party Leader Elizabeth May. "Ms. May, if you owned a large apartment building and your tenants complained that the rooms were too warm would you listen to the advice of the contractor who was telling you to rip all the insulation out of the walls of this structure?"

"I don't think that you would because your article indicates that you have a phenomenal intellect and listening to this probably self-interested contractor would be incredibly unwise!"

"Combating global warming by first getting rid of CO2 is comparable to tearing the insulation out of this hypothetical building. CO2 is not a pollutant. Plants love this compound and some people even seem to feel that the recent greening in some parts of the Sahara Desert is partly attributable to increased levels of CO2. I tend to strongly agree with them in this assertion."

"Several days ago Mr. Charles Moore informed me that Canada produces roughly only 2.5 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Our nation could invest billions of dollars into reducing our carbon footprint and yet all this would have essentially zero effect on the global environment if China and India did not take similar measures.... besides....CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT... PLANTS LIVE ON IT AND RISING WORLD OCEAN LEVELS ARE ALMOST CERTAINLY THE GREATEST MOST IMMEDIATE THREAT POSED BY GLOBAL WARMING TO EVERY COASTAL COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!! (E-mail, September 11, 200

Ms. May deserves credit for encouraging Canadian political leaders to take environmental issues more seriously but at this time I feel that she has far too much confidence in the proposals put forward at Kyoto. The skepticism that Prime Minister Harper had for this accord seems to have been based on sound reasoning. Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was wise to hope for more time to further study this complex subject before an election.

For the record I plead GUILTY to being biased when it comes to the question of how best to begin to stabilize the climate. I DO NOT believe that a Carbon Tax will accomplish ANYTHING toward keeping ocean levels stable but every single cubic meter of sea water that is desalinated and makes it way back down into a depleted underground aquifer is good news for anybody who owns real estate that would be negatively affected by rising ocean levels.

Thread 'My 2007 submission for $25 million "Virgin Earth Challenge?"'

Nov 10, 2025

I have been told that my 2007 submission for the twenty five million dollar "Virgin Earth Challenge" was quite funny.

I have to plead guilty that that was one of my major objectives. I felt a duty at that time to get people to think outside of the little green, or red, or orange or blue political box that BigMedia seemed to be cramming all of us Canadians down into?

I believe that fairly good humour can be fairly serious all at the same time. That was indeed my objective. Do you think that this writing is both funny as well as basically serious or accurate?

"Today, Sir Richard...

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[EMH]

Greenland's ice sheet adds a new layer of ice every year, what ice cores prove.

That won't stop until Greenland moves tectonically more than 600 miles from North Pole.


The claim that "Greenland is melting" is a CO2 FRAUD lie. There is substantial melt in the summer on the southern tip, south of Arctic Circle. But there is no "retreat." It grows back during winter and adds another ice layer.

The Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s, and their farms are now under 600 layers of ice... the primary "talking point" of the 1970s Global Cooling hoax.

 

[DennisPTate]

Greenland's ice sheet adds a new layer of ice every year, what ice cores prove.

That won't stop until Greenland moves tectonically more than 600 miles from North Pole.


The claim that "Greenland is melting" is a CO2 FRAUD lie. There is substantial melt in the summer on the southern tip, south of Arctic Circle. But there is no "retreat." It grows back during winter and adds another ice layer.

The Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s, and their farms are now under 600 layers of ice... the primary "talking point" of the 1970s Global Cooling hoax.

I honestly am hoping that you are correct EMH!

I would so love to think that rising ocean levels will NOT soon become a major economic drain on the USA economy as well as on the government of all nations with at least some real estate that is in danger of being swallowed if ocean levels did rise by even ten centimeters, [four inches], which I do believe could happen if a Super Volcanoe was to go active underneath either the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or Greenland.

I do believe that the Climate Change Narrative has been HIJACKED by Neo-Malthusian thinkers who feel that it is their responsibility to set in motion DEPOPULATION in order to save the trees, water, earth, air, fish, birds and animals from us terrible PRODUCTIVE humans!

Malthusianism is an economic theory, developed by Thomas Malthus, that argues human population grows exponentially, while food supply grows only arithmetically, inevitably leading to crises (famine, war, disease) when population outstrips resources, known as the Malthusian trap or catastrophe, which forces populations back down to sustainable levels through misery or moral restraint (delayed marriage). Though often criticized for failing to account for technological advances in agriculture, its ideas influence modern debates on population control and resource limits, with neo-Malthusians applying similar logic to broader environmental concerns.

Core Concepts

• Population vs. Food: Population increases geometrically (exponentially), while food production increases arithmetically (linearly).
• Malthusian Checks:
  When resources are exceeded, "checks" occur:
  • Positive Checks (Misery): Famine, war, disease, poverty that reduce population.
  • Preventive Checks (Moral Restraint): Voluntary actions like delaying marriage or limiting family size.
  • The Trap: A cycle where prosperity leads to population growth, which causes scarcity and collapse, bringing the population back to subsistence levels.

Historical Context & Criticism

• Origin: Malthus's 1798 Essay on the Principle of Population challenged Enlightenment optimism about societal perfectibility.
• Policy Impact: His ideas influenced policies like the English Poor Laws and responses to the Irish famine, suggesting aid would worsen outcomes.
• Debunking: Agricultural and technological revolutions (mechanized farming, fertilizers) allowed food supply to grow faster than Malthus predicted, disproving his immediate forecast

 

[EMH]

I would so love to think that rising ocean levels

Ask anyone who claims oceans are "rising" to show you one single photo documenting ocean "rise"

which I do believe could happen if a Super Volcanoe was to go active underneath either the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or Greenland.

Indeed, you have the correct "climate disaster movie" script...

A Yellowstone sized eruption on AA would be a huge global disaster in a matter of days.

Ditto for US, Russia and China all firing nuke missiles at AA at the same time.

 

[DennisPTate]

Ask anyone who claims oceans are "rising" to show you one single photo documenting ocean "rise"







Indeed, you have the correct "climate disaster movie" script...

A Yellowstone sized eruption on AA would be a huge global disaster in a matter of days.

Ditto for US, Russia and China all firing nuke missiles at AA at the same time.

I personally am well aware that OCEAN LEVELS HAVE NOT BEEN RISING but I knew about statistics since 2008, that powerful and influential billionaires don't seem to want to become common knowledge, indicating that the primary reason that ocean levels have NOT risen in decades, [and even in centuries], is due to how much H2O is being ADDED TO ANTARCTICA!

I was born in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, and it is my belief that IF NOVA SCOTIA, does NOT become an island, then this will be primarily due to the amount of H2O being Added TO ANTARCTICA continuing.





I would so love to be incorrect but it seems to me as if the people who are investing in Mr. Al Gore and in Mr. Bill Gates would prefer that the following information does not become common knowledge.

"Let us consider Antarctica for a moment.
We have already seen that it is big. It has a land area of 5.5
million square miles, and is presently covered by something in excess
of seven million cubic miles of ice weighing an estimated 19
quadrillion tons (19 followed by 15 zeros). What worries the
theorists of earth-crust displacement is that this vast ice-cap is
remorselessly increasing in size and weight:'at the rate of 293 cubic
miles of ice each year--almost as much as if Lake Ontario were frozen
solidly annually and added to it.(Graham Hancock, Fingerprints of
the Gods, page 480).

Here is some verification for that statistic.

"At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory, Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on the HAB Theory.)

Here is the full article by Mr. Gershom Gale.

Expanded Discussion of The HAB TheoryGershom Gale

Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory
Gershom Gale gershon1
@netvision.net.il


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Geophysical science offers rather thin explanations for the periods of history during which great glaciers advanced and retreated from the polar regions, leaving a great deal of physical evidence.

The more one delves into the actual evidence, the more skeptical one becomes of the existing theories. The truth, according to the HAB Theory, is that periodically - at intervals ranging from 3,000 to 7000 years but averaging around 5,500 years apart - great global cataclysms have occurred which destroyed virtually all of whatever life forms or civilizations had developed on the Earth to that point.

The cataclysms occur when the Earth is thrown off balance due to a massive, unbalanced accumulation of ice at the polar regions. As these polar ice caps grow, their enormous weight, accumulating unevenly as it does, creates an imbalance, and a wobble begins to develop in the rotation of the Earth on its axis. Year by year, as the ice caps grow, this eccentricity increases until, with devastating suddenness, the polar masses are thrown toward the point of greatest spin, which is the equator. Quite abruptly, the areas which were polar now become equatorial, and vice versa.

The resultant cataclysm is, of course monumental across the entire face of the Earth, except at the two points which become pivotal when the capsizing effect occurs.


An Analogy:

Picture the Earth as a round ball spinning in place on a glass table top. Imagine then, that on the uppermost part of this spinning ball, you drop a tiny glob of molten metal, just slightly off center. The ball immediately begins to wobble...

Add more weight and that wobble becomes more pronounced. Add still more and the eccentricity becomes so great the centrifugal force of the spinning ball grips the weight and turns the entire ball so that the weighted portion is thrown to the imaginary line encircling the ball where the speed is greatest - which is coincident with the imaginary line on Earth known to us as the equator.

That is precisely what happens periodically to the Earth. The buildup of ice at the poles increases until its weight is suddenly thrown some 90 degrees from pole to equator. Yes, the Earth is 26 miles greater in diameter when measured around the equator than when measured around the poles, and one might argue that this bulge provides a stability that would make such a sudden tipping unlikely. But consider: such a variance, considering the size of the planet, is far less than the manufacturing tolerances of an ivory billiard ball.

As the sun evaporates the oceans, the moisture thus released precipitates as rain or snow all over the Earth. But the snows that fall on the polar caps do not melt or flow off at anything like the rate at which they evaporate elsewhere. Snow at the poles piles up and gradually turns into glacial ice. As this process continues, the ice caps increase in size.

At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie! That's enough= ice to form a layer one mile wide and two miles high from New York to Chicago. And this is the buildup of only one year!

These figures were confirmed by Franz Loewe of France and Malcolm Mellors of Australia. There is no mistake.

The present ice mass is considerably over 5.5 million square miles. If the South Pole were over Chicago, that would make a two-mile thick slab of ice extending from Hudson's Bay to Key West, Florida.

Even this wouldn't be a threat if the ice were perfectly centered over the Earth's axis of spin, but it is not. The wobble was discovered by astronomers in 1885. It amounted to only a fraction over an inch. By the mid 1930s, this had increased to just over six feet. In 1970, the radial movement was close to 80 yards. And right now (197, the wobble is approaching a half-mile in radius.

There is no known means of calculating the point at which rollover will occur, though the summer equinox is the most dangerous time each year. It could conceivably happen with another fraction of an inch of added eccentricity. Or the system may remain more or less stable even if the wobble worsened by another mile or more.

Eventually, though, it'll reach the point of no return and the capsizing effect will occur, with essentially no warning. Overcoming the gyroscopic stabilizing effect of the Earth's equatorial bulge, and in obedience to the laws of centrifugal force, the weight of the ice will be thrown toward the equator. The Earth will continue spinning on it's axis as before, but with some dramatic differences: The ice caps will be riding on the equator, and practically all life - Man included - will have been extinguished.

This is not just a one-time occurrence; it has happened over and over again=! There have been thousands of such rollovers, perhaps even millions, during the 4.5-billion year history of the Earth.

How much time have we got before the next capsizing occurs?

The interval between each occurrence in the past has ranged between 3,000 and 7,000 years. The longest period between tilts was just about 7,000 years, give or take 50. The physical evidence indicates that our present epoch has lasted approximately 7,500 years; we've been living on borrowed time for quite a while." [
Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory
Gershom Gale ]

I truly appreciate your giving some credit to my worry about this possible scenario for a "Climate Change Disaster?"

But I am of the belief that the topic of Climate Change can be turned into something that could be very useful to President Donald J. Trump's goals to obtain a Nobel Prize for Peace at the same time that he makes life safer for ten million Israelis and all three hundred and thirty million Americans, [who have family would could be drafted in the event of the Economic part of WWIII going HOT!

Thread 'Will Shalom in the Middle East through "The Abraham Accords Part 2,3,4" be the key to the win, win, win Trump administration?'

Jan 9, 2026

I personally believe that President Donald J. Trump WANTS to radically improve the situation in the Middle East.

President Trump WANTS to greatly increase economic cooperation between ten million Israelis and their one to two billion Islamic neighbours.

President Trump WANTS for there to be no major Middle East War against America's number one ally in the Middle East during his time as President of the USA.

The key to assisting this to become reality could be an Alternative Theory on stabilization of the climate through deliberately turning deserts green, [which is a totally different...

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[EMH]

I personally am well aware that OCEAN LEVELS HAVE NOT BEEN RISING but I knew about statistics since 2008, that powerful and influential billionaires don't seem to want to become common knowledge, indicating that the primary reason that ocean levels have NOT risen in decades, [and even in centuries], is due to how much H2O is being ADDED TO ANTARCTICA!

I was born in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, and it is my belief that IF NOVA SCOTIA, does NOT become an island, then this will be primarily due to the amount of H2O being Added TO ANTARCTICA continuing.





I would so love to be incorrect but it seems to me as if the people who are investing in Mr. Al Gore and in Mr. Bill Gates would prefer that the following information does not become common knowledge.



Here is some verification for that statistic.




Here is the full article by Mr. Gershom Gale.







I truly appreciate your giving some credit to my worry about this possible scenario for a "Climate Change Disaster?"

But I am of the belief that the topic of Climate Change can be turned into something that could be very useful to President Donald J. Trump's goals to obtain a Nobel Prize for Peace at the same time that he makes life safer for ten million Israelis and all three hundred and thirty million Americans, [who have family would could be drafted in the event of the Economic part of WWIII going HOT!

Thread 'Will Shalom in the Middle East through "The Abraham Accords Part 2,3,4" be the key to the win, win, win Trump administration?'

Jan 9, 2026

I personally believe that President Donald J. Trump WANTS to radically improve the situation in the Middle East.

President Trump WANTS to greatly increase economic cooperation between ten million Israelis and their one to two billion Islamic neighbours.

President Trump WANTS for there to be no major Middle East War against America's number one ally in the Middle East during his time as President of the USA.

The key to assisting this to become reality could be an Alternative Theory on stabilization of the climate through deliberately turning deserts green, [which is a totally different...

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The "evidence" that Antarctica was "melting" always lacked on minor thing - actual LIQUID WATER there. AA is completely frozen and the only "melting" is when icebergs, still frozen, break off. Some icebergs take 50 years to melt once calved, since they are -150F inside.

If it is within 600 miles of a pole, it is in ice age, and it won't melt until it moves outside of 600 miles.

 

[DennisPTate]

The "evidence" that Antarctica was "melting" always lacked on minor thing - actual LIQUID WATER there. AA is completely frozen and the only "melting" is when icebergs, still frozen, break off. Some icebergs take 50 years to melt once calved, since they are -150F inside.

If it is within 600 miles of a pole, it is in ice age, and it won't melt until it moves outside of 600 miles.

But isn't the West Antarctic Ice Sheet in a different situation due to the fact that it is anchored BELOW SEA level?

West Antarctic Ice Sheet - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EMH]

But isn't the West Antarctic Ice Sheet in a different situation due to the fact that it is anchored BELOW SEA level?

West Antarctic Ice Sheet - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

IT has been that way for 30 million years, so no, nothing to worry about.

Any idea how cold Antarctic ice is 500 feet down?

Try minus 200 F

The Russians are experts at drilling through Arctic Ice. They brought their best equipment to AA. 500 feet down, something went wrong. The lubricant on the drill bit froze. Arctic Ice isn't that cold. AA ice is.

 

[DennisPTate]

IT has been that way for 30 million years, so no, nothing to worry about.

Any idea how cold Antarctic ice is 500 feet down?

Try minus 200 F

The Russians are experts at drilling through Arctic Ice. They brought their best equipment to AA. 500 feet down, something went wrong. The lubricant on the drill bit froze. Arctic Ice isn't that cold. AA ice is.

Is there something different about the situation under the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet that allows the liquid H2O to remain as a liquid?

I am of course referring to the liquid H2O lakes that were forming on TOP of the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet that were causing a crack in the ice and a few days later they they would flow down to the rock or soil UNDER the ice and form a liquid H2O lake under the ice?

These Under Ice lakes were having a "Lubricating" effect on the ice above and increasing the tendency for ice bergs to break off and flow into the North Atlantic Ocean. [My apologies but I am going by numbers that were more relevant ten or fifteen years ago].


Here is a possible connection to the idea of Shalom in the Middle East. Biased Billionaires who were really into their "Neo-Malthusian Economic Philosophy" have essentially rigged the world's educational system in the direction of DEPOPULATION order to save the environment from us overly productive Canadians and Americans!

Post in thread 'Those feigning outrage at Trump re: Greenland/Venezuela/Iran as "disrupting international rules based order", for decades let China/U.N do just that'

Jan 16, 2026

Wow!

Yes, President Trump came up with the term "Washington Swamp" but there is also an "Ottawa Swamp" and if my memory of history serves me properly Sir Winston Churchill termed the "London Swamp" "The High Cabal!"

The industrial base of the USA was DELIBERATELY sold to China by traitors in the Washington Swamp who carried out the rather brilliant but predatory plans of China over the past decades!




If you would like to understand what is behind The Washington Swamp then I would suggest the documentary "Why Big Oil Conquered the World?"

Why Big Oil Conquered the...

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[EMH]

Is there something different about the situation under the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet that allows the liquid H2O ti remain as a liquid?

There is liquid water under some of the AA sheet too.


GoogAI

Yes, there is a vast network of liquid water beneath Antarctic ice, including hundreds of subglacial lakes, rivers, and extensive, deep groundwater systems within sediments, kept liquid by geothermal heat, pressure, and salty conditions, significantly impacting ice flow and sea level estimates

 

[EMH]

I am of course referring to the liquid H2O lakes that were forming on TOP of the Land Based Greenland Ice Sheet

south of Arctic Circle during summer only, there is significant melting on Greenland, but it doesn't cause the ice sheet to retreat, it just grows right back during Winter.

Remember, 800 years ago the entire southern tip of Greenland had no ice age glacier. Vikings farmed it. When they first found Greenland's southern tip, they called it GREENland because it was very very green. It isn't anymore.

 

[DennisPTate]

south of Arctic Circle during summer only, there is significant melting on Greenland, but it doesn't cause the ice sheet to retreat, it just grows right back during Winter.

Remember, 800 years ago the entire southern tip of Greenland had no ice age glacier. Vikings farmed it. When they first found Greenland's southern tip, they called it GREENland because it was very very green. It isn't anymore.

I was told that the biggest problem with the Arctic would be the METHANE that would soon be released from the permafrost.

Apparently methane is a much better atmospheric INSULATOR than Carbon Dioxide.

 

[EMH]

I was told that the biggest problem with the Arctic would be the METHANE that would soon be released from the permafrost.

Apparently methane is a much better atmospheric INSULATOR than Carbon Dioxide.

All gasses absorb some form of EM from Sun.

Ozone, O3, absorbs powerful UV rays, 10k more powerful than IR, which is what CO2 absorbs. Methane absorbs IR like CO2.

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So if sunlight hits any gas in any atmosphere, that gas will absorb some of Sun's EM and warm.

But Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time, so Sun is eliminated as a suspect, since it would have done the same to both.

 

[DennisPTate]

All gasses absorb some form of EM from Sun.

Ozone, O3, absorbs powerful UV rays, 10k more powerful than IR, which is what CO2 absorbs. Methane absorbs IR like CO2.

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So if sunlight hits any gas in any atmosphere, that gas will absorb some of Sun's EM and warm.

But Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time, so Sun is eliminated as a suspect, since it would have done the same to both.

I read that the "Insulating" effect of atmospheric methane was about seventy times greater than that of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.

The warming Arctic would almost certainly release a lot of methane from the perma -frost.

Yes, atmospheric methane (

CH4CH sub 4
) is a much more potent insulator (greenhouse gas) than carbon dioxide (

CO2CO sub 2
). While it is less abundant in the atmosphere, it traps significantly more heat per molecule.





Here is a breakdown of how they compare:

• Heat-Trapping Potency: Over a 20-year period, methane is over 80 times more potent at trapping heat than
  
  
  
  CO2CO sub 2
  . Over a 100-year period, it is about 28 to 30 times more effective.
• Atmospheric Lifetime: Methane is short-lived, remaining in the atmosphere for about 10–12 years, whereas
  
  
  
  CO2CO sub 2
  persists for centuries or longer.

Post in thread 'The Geography of the Bay of Fundy and a proverbial Climate Change "Canary in the coal mine?"'

Jan 17, 2026

Oceans won't rise until Antarctica moves off South Pole.

We've got at least a 20 million year wait for that to happen.

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[EMH]

I read that the "Insulating" effect of atmospheric methane was about seventy times greater than that of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide.

The warming Arctic would almost certainly release a lot of methane from the perma -frost.

The entire "greenhouse gas" narrative is BS. All gasses absorb some form of EM spectrum.

Atmosphere is not the cause of Earth climate change, same reason, Greenland froze while North America thawed, atmosphere didn't do that.

 

[badbob85037]

Greenland's ice sheet adds a new layer of ice every year, what ice cores prove.

That won't stop until Greenland moves tectonically more than 600 miles from North Pole.


The claim that "Greenland is melting" is a CO2 FRAUD lie. There is substantial melt in the summer on the southern tip, south of Arctic Circle. But there is no "retreat." It grows back during winter and adds another ice layer.

The Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s, and their farms are now under 600 layers of ice... the primary "talking point" of the 1970s Global Cooling hoax.

I believe Iceland isn't melting as strong as I believe Islam is a gutter religion.

 

[EMH]

I believe Iceland isn't melting as strong as I believe Islam is a gutter religion.

Iceland is an anomaly. It is the only land on the fault at the center bottom of the Atlantic. It has regular magma releases because of that.

 

[DennisPTate]

The entire "greenhouse gas" narrative is BS. All gasses absorb some form of EM spectrum.

Atmosphere is not the cause of Earth climate change, same reason, Greenland froze while North America thawed, atmosphere didn't do that.

But every cubic meter of sea water that is desalinated and added to a depleted underground aquifer is good news for all owners of real estate that is in danger if the West Antarctic Ice Sheet were to begin to collapse more rapidly for some reason or another.

Desalination of sea water produces food but a Carbon Tax simply set up the USA and Canada for being taken over by extreme environmentalist who have gotten themselves into powerful places in bureaucracies.