The Gaslighting Begins After Mark Milley's Treasonous Actions Are Revealed

[Colin norris]

Increasing prices in some things but creating jobs and opportunities in others while fighting off the corrupt chinese cutting their money supply so they are less able to spread their corruption and terrorize the world without fighting a physical war costing us more both in money and lives I might add. Thanks to JOE---the chinese are out today terrorizing Taiwan again-------among others. Without Trump and his tariffs and other measures to keep our corrupt china in line, China again is on the march to take over.

Trump applied the tariffs attempting to correct the balance of trade which has been there since trade with China started under Nixon. He knew it would be popular and unsuccessful. The Chinese responded by doing the same which increased the domestic prices of imported goods. Remember dickhead, it was trump who started it, not the Chinese.
The balance increase figures remain the same as before so well done Donny.
Every one is paying the price of his little brain fart and you idiots bought like Wal-Mart had reduced prices. You were more interested in hurting the Chinese than helping yourselves. That worked well.

So, in your reservoir of economic wisdom tell me how it has stopped China from doing anything? They have not fired a shot at Taiwan nor invaded another country like America does regularly.
The tariffs destroyed manufacturing and sacked thousands of Americans. It created a glut of exported products should China didn't want because it could buy them cheaper elsewhere. Hundreds of American farmers suicided because they couldn't sell their products because of the tariffs but you wouldn't know that. You're an idiot.

So, to all those watching and you especially, get some facts before you foolishly attempt to quash me. Trump was an economic vacuum and knew nothing about international diplomacy and you supported it like lambs to the slaughter.
Don't try to be clever boy. You don't have the smarts.

 

[JoeB131]

Well, when you say something like, "Obama never did anything crazy like" putting kids in cages, it's not waddaboudism to call you on it because the truth is, that's exactly what he did. You're welcome for the history lesson, because now you'll know not to say things like that again when you're trying to gin up faux outrage because Orange Man Bad.

Obama never did anything crazy like round up THOUSANDS of kids and put them in cages for years. He put kids in cages for a couple of days until they could find people to take them. It's not even nearly the same thing.

 

[JoeB131]

How did he prevent w3 when there was no battles or even plans to do anything? Milley simply knew that the chinese controlled Biden and he wanted to be top general which btw he go by kissing communist chinese ass.

It wasn't about what the plans were, it was about what Chinese perceptions were.

The Chinese see political instability in the US, they go on high alert. Trump's incendiary talk about China over four years was more than enough to give them real concerns.

 

[hadit]

Obama never did anything crazy like round up THOUSANDS of kids and put them in cages for years. He put kids in cages for a couple of days until they could find people to take them. It's not even nearly the same thing.

Moving the goal posts already?

 

[hadit]

It wasn't about what the plans were, it was about what Chinese perceptions were.

The Chinese see political instability in the US, they go on high alert. Trump's incendiary talk about China over four years was more than enough to give them real concerns.

And yet even Milley thought there were no indications TRUMP! was going to attack.

 

[JoeB131]

And yet even Milley thought there were no indications TRUMP! was going to attack.

Then what are you complaining about.

Trump wasn't going to attack.

Milley told the Chinese we weren't going to attack.

 

[hadit]

Then what are you complaining about.

Trump wasn't going to attack.

Milley told the Chinese we weren't going to attack.

Right, Milley didn't think TRUMP! was dangerous or would attack China unprovoked. He therefore did NOT stop WWIII, as you were hyperventilating about trying to defend him solely on the grounds that Orange Man Bad.

Now that we have dispensed with that, there remains only this: Milley apparently notified a foreign power of our military plans without the knowledge and consent of the Commander In Chief. In a sane world, that is not an accepted thing, but democrats apparently don't live in the sane world.

 

[JoeB131]

Right, Milley didn't think TRUMP! was dangerous or would attack China unprovoked. He therefore did NOT stop WWIII, as you were hyperventilating about trying to defend him solely on the grounds that Orange Man Bad.

Now that we have dispensed with that, there remains only this: Milley apparently notified a foreign power of our military plans without the knowledge and consent of the Commander In Chief. In a sane world, that is not an accepted thing, but democrats apparently don't live in the sane world.

You can't have it both ways.... If Trump wasn't planning to attack China, then Milley revealed no plans.

If Trump was such an unstable mother fucker the entire military establishment felt the need to prevent him from starting a war, that's something that should concern you. Because other than the time in 1974 when the military establishment had to do the same thing to keep Nixon from doing something crazy, it's pretty much unprecedented.

 

[hadit]

You can't have it both ways.... If Trump wasn't planning to attack China, then Milley revealed no plans.

If Trump was such an unstable mother fucker the entire military establishment felt the need to prevent him from starting a war, that's something that should concern you. Because other than the time in 1974 when the military establishment had to do the same thing to keep Nixon from doing something crazy, it's pretty much unprecedented.

Of course he revealed plans, by telling the Chinese that they were safe from our attack. That is not his job. That is the job of the president and the State department, not a general in the military.

Milley made it clear he didn't believe TRUMP! was so unstable that he would attack China, so your belief they were trying to prevent a war is unsubstantiated, especially given that the peace president had started no new hostilities, being the first since Carter to do so. That leaves only that Milley disclosed our military plans to a foreign power without the president's knowledge and permission to do so. The President is Milley's commanding officer, so Milley should face consequences for that.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course he revealed plans, by telling the Chinese that they were safe from our attack. That is not his job. That is the job of the president and the State department, not a general in the military.

Lower level communications happen all the time... poor argument. Again, your argument ONLY works if Trump really had a plan to attack China that Milley was frustrating.

Milley made it clear he didn't believe TRUMP! was so unstable that he would attack China, so your belief they were trying to prevent a war is unsubstantiated, especially given that the peace president had started no new hostilities, being the first since Carter to do so.

Thing is, I trust Milley, a highly decorated officer, more than I trust Trump, a reality TV Rodeo Clown.

That leaves only that Milley disclosed our military plans to a foreign power without the president's knowledge and permission to do so. The President is Milley's commanding officer, so Milley should face consequences for that.

I agree, they should totally give him the Medal of Freedom for saving the world from Trump.

 

[hadit]

Lower level communications happen all the time... poor argument. Again, your argument ONLY works if Trump really had a plan to attack China that Milley was frustrating.



Thing is, I trust Milley, a highly decorated officer, more than I trust Trump, a reality TV Rodeo Clown.




I agree, they should totally give him the Medal of Freedom for saving the world from Trump.

A lot of words for you to admit there was no threat of WWIII from TRUMP!. So you can stop lauding Milley for preventing something that was never a threat.

 

[JoeB131]

A lot of words for you to admit there was no threat of WWIII from TRUMP!. So you can stop lauding Milley for preventing something that was never a threat.

The threat was a mentally unstable man was president.

And the system, instead of just invoking the 25th and removing him all tip-toed around him for four years.

Kind of like when you live with a crazy person, you buy into the crazy after a certain point.

 

[hadit]

The threat was a mentally unstable man was president.

And the system, instead of just invoking the 25th and removing him all tip-toed around him for four years.

Kind of like when you live with a crazy person, you buy into the crazy after a certain point.

Except that you agree with Milley that there was no threat to China. See, this is where your cognitive disconnect sets in. You HAVE to support Milley, because Orange Man Bad and Milley says critical things about Orange Man. That leads you into insisting that his violating the chain of command and conducting foreign policy without authorization is hunky-dory and A-OK because, darn it, he saved the world from WWIII. This despite Milley stating that there was no threat to China, meaning he had complete confidence in Orange Man's stability. And you have to believe what Milley said, so there was NO threat of WWIII. But then you insist that WWIII WAS brewing so Milley had to put his career on the line to stop it because reasons, and hero and Orange Man Bad. But then Milley said there was no threat to China, and you have to agree with Milley....

Watching you spin back and forth between the positions you're forced into is exhausting. Why you don't stop spinning and focus on the validity of a general conducting foreign policy on his own and spreading military plans to a foreign power is obvious. You can't allow Milley to come under any criticism because Orange Man Bad. If he wasn't preventing WWIII (his admission), then he acted outside of his authority and should face consequences for that.

 

[JoeB131]

Except that you agree with Milley that there was no threat to China. See, this is where your cognitive disconnect sets in. You HAVE to support Milley, because Orange Man Bad and Milley says critical things about Orange Man. That leads you into insisting that his violating the chain of command and conducting foreign policy without authorization is hunky-dory and A-OK because, darn it, he saved the world from WWIII. This despite Milley stating that there was no threat to China, meaning he had complete confidence in Orange Man's stability. And you have to believe what Milley said, so there was NO threat of WWIII. But then you insist that WWIII WAS brewing so Milley had to put his career on the line to stop it because reasons, and hero and Orange Man Bad. But then Milley said there was no threat to China, and you have to agree with Milley....

Except, of course, the Chinese weren't sure there was no threat, and the purpose of talking to them was to make sure some Lt. Colonel didn't start a war by accident because they were on edge when they saw Trump trying to foment a coup, something the Chinese have never seen.

Watching you spin back and forth between the positions you're forced into is exhausting. Why you don't stop spinning and focus on the validity of a general conducting foreign policy on his own and spreading military plans to a foreign power is obvious. You can't allow Milley to come under any criticism because Orange Man Bad. If he wasn't preventing WWIII (his admission), then he acted outside of his authority and should face consequences for that.

If there was no threat, assuring China there was no threat was not going outside of his authority, given military officers communicate with their counterparts all the time.

What was unusual in this case was Trump refusing to concede, instigating mobs to storm the capitol, and the kind of shit the Chinese never saw before, and probably had legitimate concerns about.

 

[hadit]

Except, of course, the Chinese weren't sure there was no threat, and the purpose of talking to them was to make sure some Lt. Colonel didn't start a war by accident because they were on edge when they saw Trump trying to foment a coup, something the Chinese have never seen.





If there was no threat, assuring China there was no threat was not going outside of his authority, given military officers communicate with their counterparts all the time.

What was unusual in this case was Trump refusing to concede, instigating mobs to storm the capitol, and the kind of shit the Chinese never saw before, and probably had legitimate concerns about.

That's the State Dept's job, not a random general's. That's the point, there are channels set up for things like this, people given authority to speak for the Commander in Chief. Milley stepped outside his authority when he disclosed our military intentions to a foreign power.

 

[JoeB131]

That's the State Dept's job, not a random general's. That's the point, there are channels set up for things like this, people given authority to speak for the Commander in Chief. Milley stepped outside his authority when he disclosed our military intentions to a foreign power.

Again, only if Trump had an intention to start a war, was what Milley did out of line.

The real problem was that Trump was president at all, not how the government had to respond to a mad emperor.

Kind of makes you miss how the Romans dealt with this kind of problem.

 

[hadit]

Again, only if Trump had an intention to start a war, was what Milley did out of line.

The real problem was that Trump was president at all, not how the government had to respond to a mad emperor.

Kind of makes you miss how the Romans dealt with this kind of problem.

View attachment 549484

It wasn't his job to alert a foreign nation as to our plans to attack or not attack. That's the bottom line that you don't seem to grasp. You seem to think, "no harm, no foul", but that's not the way the military works. Let's say it this way. Do you think Milley would accept one of his direct reports going beyond the mandate of his job and acting without authority, especially with a foreign power?

And I find it interesting that you are wishing for the assassination of the president. You might want to answer that knock on the door.

 

[JoeB131]

It wasn't his job to alert a foreign nation as to our plans to attack or not attack. That's the bottom line that you don't seem to grasp. You seem to think, "no harm, no foul", but that's not the way the military works. Let's say it this way. Do you think Milley would accept one of his direct reports going beyond the mandate of his job and acting without authority, especially with a foreign power?

Actually, what he was doing was assuring the Chinese we weren't going to attack... which is a good thing. That the Chinese had good reason to worry our Mad Emperor might attack them is a cause for concern.

 

[hadit]

Actually, what he was doing was assuring the Chinese we weren't going to attack... which is a good thing. That the Chinese had good reason to worry our Mad Emperor might attack them is a cause for concern.

If he did it without the knowledge and consent of the president, he overstepped his authority.

 

[JoeB131]

If he did it without the knowledge and consent of the president, he overstepped his authority.

Right. You know that Generals (and Colonels, Majors, Captains, etc.) make decisions all the time without checking in with the Mad Emperor, right? That's you know, kind of their job.

Again, if Trump had no intent to start a war with China, what Milley did was fine.

If Trump was trying to start a war with China and Milley prevented him, then Milley is a fucking hero.

Happy to have cleared that up for you.