The fight for abortion rights turns to state constitutions

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

A living woman is more important than a fetus.

A fetus is not an unborn child.

Abortion is a medical term.

It is not murder.

 

[Concerned American]

A living woman is more important than a fetus.

A fetus is not an unborn child.

Abortion is a medical term.

It is not murder.

Just keep on massaging your guilt with that line of BS, murderer.

 

[Concerned American]

A living woman is more important than a fetus.

A fetus is not an unborn child.

Abortion is a medical term.

It is not murder.

I'll bet you are opposed to the death penalty too, eh, murderer?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

In my state WA, the legislators agree with you when it comes to the murder of unborn children. I find it ironic that democrat governor Jay Inslee also believes it is barbaric to exercise the death penalty against the most violent offenders among us. Murder is OK on the innocent, but not permitted against violent predators. For crying out loud. Inslee provides more protections for wolves than he does the unborn. Thanks for letting everyone know where you come down on this debate. Too bad your parents didn't exercise their abortion rights.

Glad that in WA you are obviously a minority and there is strong resistance to outlawing a woman’s right to make up her own mind and use her own moral judgement on whether she should take an abortion pill or otherwise end an unwanted pregnancy.

Not that it is relevant, but I probably wouldn’t agree with your Governor’s “moralistic” position on the death penalty — anymore than I agree with yours on denying women’s right to abortion..

In one case we are talking about a state Governor who opposes the death penalty on principle — even to hardened criminal murderers of fully born human beings who have been tried, convicted and after numerous appeals have had their guilt confirmed.

In your case you & your hypocritical “Moral Majority” politicians are trying to pass unpopular laws to punish innocent women who are in distress, who simply wish to end unwanted pregnancies, often so they can plan for present or future children and families. They are not “killing babies” or “people,” but are preventing zygotes or embryos —dependent on their bodies like a half-foreign parasite — from ever being born.

That’s hard language and totally inappropriate for the ears of a happy and pregnant woman, but it may sound much more appropriate to women who have been raped or repeatedly bullied into having children they do not want to give birth to. There are even women like this who go mad and treat their unwanted children like the “spawn of the devil” — and the children unsurprisingly often end up in prison, or on “death row.”

 

[Concerned American]

punish innocent women who are in distress,

Exceptions are in place for the health of the mother, rape or incest in nearly every pro life law. Women in distress is not descriptive of sluts who engage in unprotected sex and use abortion for convenience (murder) as an out. There are "morning after" pills that are available cheaply in any drug store. Abortion of the unborn with beating hearts is murder. This has been the case in many trials where the perpetrator has murdered pregnant women and they are convicted of double murder. Try again, murderer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Exceptions are in place for the health of the mother, rape or incest in nearly every pro life law. Women in distress is not descriptive of sluts who engage in unprotected sex and use abortion for convenience (murder) as an out. There are "morning after" pills that are available cheaply in any drug store. Abortion of the unborn with beating hearts is murder. This has been the case in many trials where the perpetrator has murdered pregnant women and they are convicted of double murder. Try again, murderer.

Nah, that attitude means you would have served happily with the SS or the gestapo. So long.

 

[Concerned American]

Nah, that attitude means you would have served happily with the SS or the gestapo. So long.

Concession noted. When you have no debatable point, it is time to run on your slow horse eh, noob?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Texas AGAIN in the vanguard of reaction:

THE FIRST “WRONGFUL DEATH” CASE FOR HELPING A FRIEND GET AN ABORTION
The lawsuit’s long game — beyond instilling fear — is establishing fetal personhood, the holy grail of the anti-abortion movement.

A month after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the Houston mother of two experienced an unplanned pregnancy with her now ex-husband and allegedly sought abortion care with the help of her friends. For nearly a year, Texas had imposed a six-week abortion ban, and a full “trigger” ban would be enacted in just a few weeks…. Her friends offered their unwavering support.

[The ex-husband] filed an unprecedented lawsuit in March accusing [three fiends] of wrongful death, alleging the trio “conspired” to help his ex-wife obtain medication to terminate her pregnancy with a self-managed abortion. Attorneys for [the ex-husband] also hope to sue “into oblivion” the manufacturer of the abortion pills procured. The complaint, filed in state court in Galveston County, Texas, seeks a stunning $1 million in damages from each woman….

The First âWrongful Deathâ Case for Helping a Friend Get an Abortion

 

[Concerned American]

Texas AGAIN in the vanguard of reaction:

THE FIRST “WRONGFUL DEATH” CASE FOR HELPING A FRIEND GET AN ABORTION
The lawsuit’s long game — beyond instilling fear — is establishing fetal personhood, the holy grail of the anti-abortion movement.

A month after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the Houston mother of two experienced an unplanned pregnancy with her now ex-husband and allegedly sought abortion care with the help of her friends. For nearly a year, Texas had imposed a six-week abortion ban, and a full “trigger” ban would be enacted in just a few weeks…. Her friends offered their unwavering support.

[The ex-husband] filed an unprecedented lawsuit in March accusing [three fiends] of wrongful death, alleging the trio “conspired” to help his ex-wife obtain medication to terminate her pregnancy with a self-managed abortion. Attorneys for [the ex-husband] also hope to sue “into oblivion” the manufacturer of the abortion pills procured. The complaint, filed in state court in Galveston County, Texas, seeks a stunning $1 million in damages from each woman….

The First âWrongful Deathâ Case for Helping a Friend Get an Abortion

I guess they fucked around and found out.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I guess they fucked around and found out.

No asshole. More likely this abusive loser of a husband fucked around like a pig. He got his wife pregnant and she decided to get a divorce and.end her pregnancy using the abortion pill. Now he wants to pretend he is the “moral” one, forcing his ex-wife to get back with him so he can keep abusing her, force her to have more babies, cook his meals, wash his clothes, etc.

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Apparently this lowlife is going after her friends out of vengeance and for the money.

I’m sure you two would have a lot in common!

 

[Concerned American]

so he can keep abusing her, force her to have more babies, cook his meals, wash his clothes, etc.

Oh, so now women haven't got the power to not spread their legs? Last I heard it takes two and if she wants to claim spousal rape why didn't she? Now run your hypothetical BS down the road.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Good news from Nevada — Republican Governor supports abortion right in first 24 weeks:

Nevada Republican governor approves abortion protections in rare cross-party move

Republican Gov. Joe Lombardo has signed a bill enshrining existing protections for out-of-state abortion patients and in-state providers. The move on Tuesday marks a rare occurrence of a Republican governor approving measures that are part of Democrats’ vow to make the western swing state an...

apnews.com

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Here’s the latest USMB discussion about the collapse of MAGA Republican anti-abortion efforts to change the Ohio Constitution:

Ohio's Issue 1 Soundly Rejected By Voters In Major Win For Abortion Rights

Ohio voters rejected an effort that would have made it harder to pass citizen-led ballot initiatives, in a rebuke of Republican efforts to block an expansion of abortion rights that’s on the ballot in November. Issue 1, which would have raised the threshold to pass citizen-led ballot measures...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Republican “Right to Life” groups have been active in the last period counter-attacking on the state level against the general pro-choice opinions of American voters. Here is a useful state by state update from ProPublica taken from their Facebook page. You can easily get on their free mailing list if the entire article is unavailable to you:

Some Republicans Were Willing to Compromise on Abortion Ban Exceptions. Activists Made Sure They Didn’t.​

ProPublica reviewed 12 of the nation’s strictest abortion bans. Few changed in 2023, as state lawmakers caved to pressure from anti-abortion groups opposing exceptions for rape, incest and health risks.