The Education Complex is Stupid: Part 1. "Build Relationships"

[SweetSue92]

I doubt there is any profession more willing to swallow, digest and spit back inane, worthless information than education.

Let's examine one such case: if a child has behavior problems, "building a relationship" can solve it. This is so ingrained that it's many admin's go-to. If the student acts like a jerk, the teacher is ROUTINELY called on the carpet for it (not the child), mostly being told to "build a relationship" with the child.

I appreciate the value of this over time for lots of reasons, but not when it comes to basic human decency. And I'm ready to say it everywhere, including to my direct admins. Like this, "Oh. So we're teaching children they are allowed to be rude to cashiers, servers and bank tellers because they don't 'have a relationship' with them. Right? No one can expect basic human decency from someone they don't know."

Plenty of woeful information on "building relationships" out there in education. Below is just one example.

23 Ways to Build and Sustain Classroom Relationships

These teacher-approved activities will help create the sort of classroom bonds that pave the way to academic success.

www.edutopia.org

 

[Unkotare]

Quit if you can't hack it.

 

[SweetSue92]

Quit if you can't hack it.

Okay study hall monitor

 

[Unkotare]

Okay study hall monitor

Wrong again, quitter.

 

[SweetSue92]

Wrong again, quitter.

Sure. That's why you're able to post here so often during the school day. Heck, if I were a study hall monitor I'd probably think it's a cake walk too. Let the kids play on their phones, make sure no one dies or whatever.

 

[Unkotare]

Sure. That's why you're able to post here so often during the school day. Heck, if I were a study hall monitor I'd probably think it's a cake walk too. Let the kids play on their phones, make sure no one dies or whatever.

Still wrong, quitter. I teach high school kids who would literally scare the likes of you to death. You "struggle" with 6 year-olds, and bitch and moan about it here endlessly. I also coach kids from 5 inner city schools, and I enjoy it instead of bitching about it.

 

[Unkotare]

... if a child has behavior problems, "building a relationship" can solve it....

Many times it can help a lot. I've had many students who, while not great scholars, were treated as "problems" by most other teachers in large part because they were huge and scary-looking. When I make it clear that I am not impressed by (defensive measure) scowls, they usually come around. I've developed a great relationship with most such kids. This one enormous kid would come by my classroom after school almost every day just to hang out and chat a bit. Other teachers, like the OP, avoided him because of how he looked and as a result he kept his guard up all the time. His home life wasn't great, and he just wanted someone to listen to him with some measure of simple respect. Even more so with female students, many of whom in my district have some seriously heartbreaking histories/situations.

Listening and showing some respect go a long way.

 

[Muhammed]

Let's examine one such case: if a child has behavior problems, "building a relationship" can solve it. This is so ingrained that it's many admin's go-to. If the student acts like a jerk, the teacher is ROUTINELY called on the carpet for it (not the child), mostly being told to "build a relationship" with the child.

 

[Unkotare]

Got a problem with English?

 

[SweetSue92]

Many times it can help a lot. I've had many students who, while not great scholars, were treated as "problems" by most other teachers in large part because they were huge and scary-looking. When I make it clear that I am not impressed by (defensive measure) scowls, they usually come around. I've developed a great relationship with most such kids. This one enormous kid would come by my classroom after school almost every day just to hang out and chat a bit. Other teachers, like the OP, avoided him because of how he looked and as a result he kept his guard up all the time. His home life wasn't great, and he just wanted someone to listen to him with some measure of simple respect. Even more so with female students, many of whom in my district have some seriously heartbreaking histories/situations.

Listening and showing some respect go a long way.

I am not talking about students who "look scary". I'm talking about actual bad behavior that is repetitive, as I made clear.

 

[SweetSue92]

Still wrong, quitter. I teach high school kids who would literally scare the likes of you to death. You "struggle" with 6 year-olds, and bitch and moan about it here endlessly. I also coach kids from 5 inner city schools, and I enjoy it instead of bitching about it.

When your hs kids get violent, you have security and police. When ours do, everyone says "they're only six" while female teachers are sent to the hospital.

But I'm not even talking about THAT.

I'm talking about the stupidity of the Education Complex thinking the way to cure rude, impolite behavior is to just be nice. That's actually abusive. To the teachers.

 

[Muhammed]

Got a problem with English?

No. It's my first language.

 

[Unkotare]

When your hs kids get violent, you have security and police. When ours do, everyone says "they're only six" while female teachers are sent to the hospital.
...

If a 6 year old is sending you to the hospital, you need to hit the gym.

 

[elektra]

Many times it can help a lot. I've had many students who, while not great scholars, were treated as "problems" by most other teachers in large part because they were huge and scary-looking. When I make it clear that I am not impressed by (defensive measure) scowls, they usually come around. I've developed a great relationship with most such kids. This one enormous kid ...

Your grsmmar sucks, you dont know how to use commas. You wording reads like you need a class in english.

Many times it can help, is better alone than how you wrote it.

Problems, as you wrote requires a comma

When I? Why not, "I make it clear." Sounds better, says the same thing.

Defensive measure? Parentheses? No comma?

Your writing style is poor, for a teacher.

Enormous kid? Gee, do you judge much.

 

[White 6]

If a 6 year old is sending you to the hospital, you need to hit the gym.

If the 6 year old is packing heat, the gym will not help. The teacher was luck to survive.

 

[Unkotare]

Your grsmmar [sic] sucks, you dont [sic] know how to use commas. You wording reads like you need a class in english [sic].

Many times it can help, is better alone than how you wrote it.

Problems, as you wrote requires a comma

When I? Why not, "I make it clear." Sounds better, says the same thing.

Defensive measure? Parentheses? No comma?

Your writing style is poor, for a teacher.

Enormous kid? Gee, do you judge much [sic].

All wrong, but more importantly what do you think of the thread topic?

 

[elektra]

If the 6 year old is packing heat, the gym will not help. The teacher was luck to survive.

Lucky to survive. Sorry, I could not help it. Please see this as humor in light of things. Are you baiting me?

 

[Winco]

I'm talking about the stupidity of the Education Complex thinking the way to cure rude, impolite behavior is to just be nice. That's actually abusive. To the teachers.

Wow, I really feel bad for your school having you as an employee.
Do you get any pleasure from teaching?
Do you give any of your students any reason to enjoy your class?
The pathetic whining you do on a daily basis is painful.
I don't care, at this point, which party or POTUS candidate you support, you just embarrass the teaching profession.
Wow Sue, just Wow.

Your grsmmar sucks, you dont know how to use commas. You wording reads like you need a class in english.

Many times it can help, is better alone than how you wrote it.

Problems, as you wrote requires a comma

When I? Why not, "I make it clear." Sounds better, says the same thing.

Defensive measure? Parentheses? No comma?

Your writing style is poor, for a teacher.

Enormous kid? Gee, do you judge much.

Is this ^^^ a joke?
So much poor grsmmar grammar above, it is impossible to correct the mistakes.

 

[Unkotare]

If the 6 year old is packing heat, the gym will not help. The teacher was luck to survive.

The chances of a 6 year-old packing heat are pretty slim. At the high school where I work, it's not all that uncommon. We have police dogs pass through the school at least once a week checking for drugs and weapons.

 

[elektra]

All wrong, but more importantly what do you think of the thread topic?

I ignore you because of who you are. I should of ignored when you put on the grammar police hat but iyou deserve to have your hypocrisy flagged.

I made my point. I will not engage with you. You must have noticed that I dont reply to you when you quote my posts.

You are not the first one to the dinner table, are you.

I find you offensive and wrong, personally, nothing having to do with your comments.

Bye