Seawytch
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The couple didn't file a lawsuit, douchenozzle.
The dreaded gay-wedding-cake saga ends: bakers must pay 135 K
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The couple didn't file a lawsuit, douchenozzle.
Yes it does, great argument. What about putting some bullets in your pecker and backing it up?
Andylusion
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You have the right to be wrong. Please continue.....
Seawytch
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Why did god kill Onan?
PaintMyHouse
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Spilling his seed, and not in his sister-in-law's vagina...
Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
Practiced birth control.
PaintMyHouse
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Close enough for government work...
Seawytch
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It was for disobeying god. What god commanded was irrelevant and was certainly not an admonition of masturbation...despite a great many interpreting it that way.
saintmichaeldefendthem
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Rights and powers are two different things. Rights are vouchsafed by government whether they originated from God or not. Powers are a salient reminder that the states created the Constitution and the federal government and can dissolve both. Powers cannot be rescinded by its products.
Statistikhengst
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Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
But I already did. And I doesn't matter what I write, you will go stuff your head in the pillow, you know, the one you usually bite when you are getting popped by some BBC, and you will cry. And then you will cry and you will cry and you will cry.
The story of Onan is in the the Torah, or?
And how was this story interpreted by Rabbis for how many thousands of years, you stupid ****?
And then there is Proverbs 31:3
And then there is Maimonides commentary on this:
“Semen constitutes the strength of the body, its life, and the light of the eyes. Its emission to excess causes physical decay, debility, and diminished vitality. Thus Solomon, in his wisdom, says: ‘Do not give your strength to women’ (Proverbs 31:3). Whoever indulges in sexual dissipation becomes prematurely aged; his strength fails; his eyes become dim; a foul odor proceeds from his mouth and armpits; the hair of his head, eyebrows, and eyelashes drop out; the hair of his beard, armpits, and legs grow abnormally; his teeth fall out; and besides these, he becomes subject to numerous other diseases. Medical authorities have stated that for each one who dies of other maladies, a thousand are the victims of sexual excess.”
Back to Onan:
Taking their cue from this biblical phrase, the mystics asserted that since a man who masturbates prevents the use of that semen for conceiving a child, he is guilty not only of murder but of the murder of his own (potential) children. He is therefore a criminal more reprehensible than any other. On the other hand, ejaculation is prized in heterosexual relations, even in those that do not lead to procreation, and no “murder” is said to take place, nor are the forces of evil enhanced.
The mystics also claimed that even involuntary emissions of semen created demons, which were a danger not only to the man who masturbated but to the entire community. Such notions appear in folk literature as well as in rabbinic mystical texts. Thus the narrator in I.B. Singer’s short story, “From the Diary of One Not Born,” says: “I was not born. My father, a yeshivah student, sinned as did Onan, and from his seed I was created‑half spirit, half‑demon…I am and I am not.”
Masturbation A Touchy Subject - My Jewish Learning
So, you are sticking your fingers in your ears and acting as if masturbation was never a subject in the Torah and in the teachings of the last 5,700+ years, when it is. I never said that I agreed with the interpretation. I said that the verses and the admonitions exist.
Your lack of comprehension and your inability to build context can mean only one thing: you are a worthless Conservative.
Esmeralda
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Your logic is completely faulty. I am not at all 'arguing procreation as the compelling state issue." For you to jump to that conclusion is ridiculous.
We do not need to include the idea of producing children as part of the marriage contract. Many people do not want to have children, many cannot. It is only religious (Christian) values that say marriage is for reproduction. Most folks, Christian folks too, and even you, I'll bet, have sexual intercourse without the intention of reproduction. The purpose of marriage is to have a life partner, not to reproduce.
However, if an incestuous relationship results in children, the likelihood of the child being severely handicapped is there, so it behooves the State to disallow such marriages or such couplings. This is really simple stuff, Pop, why can't you get it?
This is why I have said incestuous marriage and gay marriage are two completely different things and that trying to compare them is a false analogy.
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Esmeralda
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Nothing trolling about it. Your denial of a gay lifestyle and your hatred and fear of gays is obvious and obviously linked to your own mental and emotional issues. Other people being gay has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with you. It threatens you in no way at all, though you seem to believe it does.You say it is against your religious values, but there are multitudes of religious people who accept it as an alternative lifestyle and go on with their own, completely non-threatened by what other adults do. You are severely threatened by gay marriage: that says a whole lot about you, psychologically.It also suggests how fragile is his emotional, mental and spiritual involvement in his marriage vows when something that has nothing whatsoever to do with him is such a huge threat to his commitment to his marriage. That's what homophobia is too, men who are so insecure about their own heterosexuality and their own masculinity that they are severely threatened by the idea of homosexuality.
Poppy thinks the gay people getting married are destroying his life and the meaning of his marriage. Lol.
^^^^^a two for one troll day!!!!
Esmeralda
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Not me, the poor children created by defective bloodlines. Such horrible disfigurements they will have to endure.
But that's OK to progressives, right?
Poor poppy.
Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
He repeated it without proof, isn't that enough for you? I mean sure he'd lie once, but would he lie twice?
Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
But I already did. And I doesn't matter what I write, you will go stuff your head in the pillow, you know, the one you usually bite when you are getting popped by some BBC, and you will cry. And then you will cry and you will cry and you will cry.
The story of Onan is in the the Torah, or?
And how was this story interpreted by Rabbis for how many thousands of years, you stupid ****?
And then there is Proverbs 31:3
And then there is Maimonides commentary on this:
“Semen constitutes the strength of the body, its life, and the light of the eyes. Its emission to excess causes physical decay, debility, and diminished vitality. Thus Solomon, in his wisdom, says: ‘Do not give your strength to women’ (Proverbs 31:3). Whoever indulges in sexual dissipation becomes prematurely aged; his strength fails; his eyes become dim; a foul odor proceeds from his mouth and armpits; the hair of his head, eyebrows, and eyelashes drop out; the hair of his beard, armpits, and legs grow abnormally; his teeth fall out; and besides these, he becomes subject to numerous other diseases. Medical authorities have stated that for each one who dies of other maladies, a thousand are the victims of sexual excess.”
Back to Onan:
Taking their cue from this biblical phrase, the mystics asserted that since a man who masturbates prevents the use of that semen for conceiving a child, he is guilty not only of murder but of the murder of his own (potential) children. He is therefore a criminal more reprehensible than any other. On the other hand, ejaculation is prized in heterosexual relations, even in those that do not lead to procreation, and no “murder” is said to take place, nor are the forces of evil enhanced.
The mystics also claimed that even involuntary emissions of semen created demons, which were a danger not only to the man who masturbated but to the entire community. Such notions appear in folk literature as well as in rabbinic mystical texts. Thus the narrator in I.B. Singer’s short story, “From the Diary of One Not Born,” says: “I was not born. My father, a yeshivah student, sinned as did Onan, and from his seed I was created‑half spirit, half‑demon…I am and I am not.”
Masturbation A Touchy Subject - My Jewish Learning
So, you are sticking your fingers in your ears and acting as if masturbation was never a subject in the Torah and in the teachings of the last 5,700+ years, when it is. I never said that I agreed with the interpretation. I said that the verses and the admonitions exist.
Your lack of comprehension and your inability to build context can mean only one thing: you are a worthless Conservative.
Actually, the Onan story was about manning up to his responsibilities, not masturbation.
Just so you know, that's the go to story for Christian on the topic and they always misunderstand it like you did. LOL, you walked right into that one
JoeB131
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So it was cool that God killed a guy for not wanting to knock up his sister-in-law who he never wanted to marry to start with?
This would be the same Tamar that Judah knocked up and then wanted to burn alive because she got pregnant.
Keep in mind, this is the book the Right thinks we need to derive morality from.
OK so you cannot show that the Bible condemns masturbation as a sin. This is of a piece with your other contention, all of which you fail to support after shooting your mouth off.Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
But I already did. And I doesn't matter what I write, you will go stuff your head in the pillow, you know, the one you usually bite when you are getting popped by some BBC, and you will cry. And then you will cry and you will cry and you will cry.
The story of Onan is in the the Torah, or?
And how was this story interpreted by Rabbis for how many thousands of years, you stupid ****?
And then there is Proverbs 31:3
And then there is Maimonides commentary on this:
“Semen constitutes the strength of the body, its life, and the light of the eyes. Its emission to excess causes physical decay, debility, and diminished vitality. Thus Solomon, in his wisdom, says: ‘Do not give your strength to women’ (Proverbs 31:3). Whoever indulges in sexual dissipation becomes prematurely aged; his strength fails; his eyes become dim; a foul odor proceeds from his mouth and armpits; the hair of his head, eyebrows, and eyelashes drop out; the hair of his beard, armpits, and legs grow abnormally; his teeth fall out; and besides these, he becomes subject to numerous other diseases. Medical authorities have stated that for each one who dies of other maladies, a thousand are the victims of sexual excess.”
Back to Onan:
Taking their cue from this biblical phrase, the mystics asserted that since a man who masturbates prevents the use of that semen for conceiving a child, he is guilty not only of murder but of the murder of his own (potential) children. He is therefore a criminal more reprehensible than any other. On the other hand, ejaculation is prized in heterosexual relations, even in those that do not lead to procreation, and no “murder” is said to take place, nor are the forces of evil enhanced.
The mystics also claimed that even involuntary emissions of semen created demons, which were a danger not only to the man who masturbated but to the entire community. Such notions appear in folk literature as well as in rabbinic mystical texts. Thus the narrator in I.B. Singer’s short story, “From the Diary of One Not Born,” says: “I was not born. My father, a yeshivah student, sinned as did Onan, and from his seed I was created‑half spirit, half‑demon…I am and I am not.”
Masturbation A Touchy Subject - My Jewish Learning
So, you are sticking your fingers in your ears and acting as if masturbation was never a subject in the Torah and in the teachings of the last 5,700+ years, when it is. I never said that I agreed with the interpretation. I said that the verses and the admonitions exist.
Your lack of comprehension and your inability to build context can mean only one thing: you are a worthless Conservative.
You are an arrogant, ignorant piece of shit and this becomes apparent the more you post.
Why are you seething with hatred? You must get help!Nothing trolling about it. Your denial of a gay lifestyle and your hatred and fear of gays is obvious and obviously linked to your own mental and emotional issues. Other people being gay has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with you. It threatens you in no way at all, though you seem to believe it does.You say it is against your religious values, but there are multitudes of religious people who accept it as an alternative lifestyle and go on with their own, completely non-threatened by what other adults do. You are severely threatened by gay marriage: that says a whole lot about you, psychologically.It also suggests how fragile is his emotional, mental and spiritual involvement in his marriage vows when something that has nothing whatsoever to do with him is such a huge threat to his commitment to his marriage. That's what homophobia is too, men who are so insecure about their own heterosexuality and their own masculinity that they are severely threatened by the idea of homosexuality.
Poppy thinks the gay people getting married are destroying his life and the meaning of his marriage. Lol.
^^^^^a two for one troll day!!!!
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
OK so you cannot show that the Bible condemns masturbation as a sin. This is of a piece with your other contention, all of which you fail to support after shooting your mouth off.Usually when people want to prove their point they offer, well, proof. Like a verse citation or something. Anything, really.
The only reason not to do that is because you are wrong and of course too arrogant and stupid to admit it. So you look like the moron you are, while you tapdance around. You arent fooling anyone, Mohammed.
But I already did. And I doesn't matter what I write, you will go stuff your head in the pillow, you know, the one you usually bite when you are getting popped by some BBC, and you will cry. And then you will cry and you will cry and you will cry.
The story of Onan is in the the Torah, or?
And how was this story interpreted by Rabbis for how many thousands of years, you stupid ****?
And then there is Proverbs 31:3
And then there is Maimonides commentary on this:
“Semen constitutes the strength of the body, its life, and the light of the eyes. Its emission to excess causes physical decay, debility, and diminished vitality. Thus Solomon, in his wisdom, says: ‘Do not give your strength to women’ (Proverbs 31:3). Whoever indulges in sexual dissipation becomes prematurely aged; his strength fails; his eyes become dim; a foul odor proceeds from his mouth and armpits; the hair of his head, eyebrows, and eyelashes drop out; the hair of his beard, armpits, and legs grow abnormally; his teeth fall out; and besides these, he becomes subject to numerous other diseases. Medical authorities have stated that for each one who dies of other maladies, a thousand are the victims of sexual excess.”
Back to Onan:
Taking their cue from this biblical phrase, the mystics asserted that since a man who masturbates prevents the use of that semen for conceiving a child, he is guilty not only of murder but of the murder of his own (potential) children. He is therefore a criminal more reprehensible than any other. On the other hand, ejaculation is prized in heterosexual relations, even in those that do not lead to procreation, and no “murder” is said to take place, nor are the forces of evil enhanced.
The mystics also claimed that even involuntary emissions of semen created demons, which were a danger not only to the man who masturbated but to the entire community. Such notions appear in folk literature as well as in rabbinic mystical texts. Thus the narrator in I.B. Singer’s short story, “From the Diary of One Not Born,” says: “I was not born. My father, a yeshivah student, sinned as did Onan, and from his seed I was created‑half spirit, half‑demon…I am and I am not.”
Masturbation A Touchy Subject - My Jewish Learning
So, you are sticking your fingers in your ears and acting as if masturbation was never a subject in the Torah and in the teachings of the last 5,700+ years, when it is. I never said that I agreed with the interpretation. I said that the verses and the admonitions exist.
Your lack of comprehension and your inability to build context can mean only one thing: you are a worthless Conservative.
You are an arrogant, ignorant piece of shit and this becomes apparent the more you post.
It was shown to you repeatedly. The passage dealing with Onan has been interpreted for centuries to be a prohibition on masturbation. That's what people do with the bible, interpret it to fit their prejudices.
Just like the prohibitions on blacks marrying whites and gays marrying each other. Some interpret the bible to prohibit them...others don't.
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