The Clinton-era blunder that set the stage for today's Ukrainian crisis

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Yes, Democrats own this since Clinton.

Øbama further exacerbated it by fomenting the c.2014 'revolution' against a democratically elected President of Ukraine. Whether he was corrupt or not really doesn't matter it wasn't for us to foment his overthrow, but we did.



Understandably enough, commentaries on the crisis between Russia and the West tend to dwell on Ukraine. After all, more than 100,000 Russian soldiers and a fearsome array of weaponry have now been emplaced around the Ukrainian border. Still, such a narrow perspective deflects attention from an American strategic blunder that dates to the 1990s and is still reverberating.

During that decade, Russia was on its knees. Its economy had shrunk by nearly 40%, while unemployment was surging and inflation skyrocketing. (It reached a monumental 86% in 1999.) The Russian military was a mess. Instead of seizing the opportunity to create a new European order that included Russia, President Bill Clinton and his foreign-policy team squandered it by deciding to expand NATO threateningly toward that country’s borders. Such a misbegotten policy guaranteed that Europe would once again be divided, even as Washington created a new order that excluded and progressively alienated post-Soviet Russia.

The Russians were perplexed — as well they should have been.

At the time, Clinton and company were hailing Russian President Boris Yeltsin as a democrat. (Never mind that he had lobbed tank shells at his own recalcitrant parliament in 1993 and, in 1996, prevailed in a crooked election, abetted weirdly enough by Washington.) They praised him for launching a “transition” to a market economy, which, as Nobel Laureate Svetlana Alexievich so poignantly laid out in her book Second Hand Time, would plunge millions of Russians into penury by “decontrolling” prices and slashing state-provided social services.

Why, Russians wondered, would Washington obsessively push a Cold War NATO alliance ever closer to their borders, knowing that a reeling Russia was in no position to endanger any European country?

An alliance saved from oblivion

Unfortunately, those who ran or influenced American foreign policy found no time to ponder such an obvious question. After all, there was a world out there for the planet’s sole superpower to lead and, if the U.S. wasted time on introspection, “the jungle,” as the influential neoconservative thinker Robert Kagan put it, would grow back and the world would be “imperiled.” So, the Clintonites and their successors in the White House found new causes to promote using American power, a fixation that would lead to serial campaigns of intervention and social engineering.

The expansion of NATO was an early manifestation of this millenarian mindset, something theologian Reinhold Niebuhr had warned about in his classic book, The Irony of American History. But who in Washington was paying attention, when the world’s fate and the future were being designed by us, and only us, in what Washington Post neoconservative columnist Charles Krauthammer celebrated in 1990 as the ultimate “unipolar moment” — one in which, for the first time ever, the United States would possess peerless power?

Still, why use that opportunity to expand NATO, which had been created in 1949 to deter the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact from rolling into Western Europe, given that both the Soviet Union and its alliance were now gone? Wasn’t it akin to breathing life into a mummy?

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Yes, Democrats own this since Clinton.

Øbama further exacerbated it by fomenting the c.2014 'revolution' against a democratically elected President of Ukraine. Whether he was corrupt or not really doesn't matter it wasn't for us to foment his overthrow, but we did.


Understandably enough, commentaries on the crisis between Russia and the West tend to dwell on Ukraine. After all, more than 100,000 Russian soldiers and a fearsome array of weaponry have now been emplaced around the Ukrainian border. Still, such a narrow perspective deflects attention from an American strategic blunder that dates to the 1990s and is still reverberating.​
During that decade, Russia was on its knees. Its economy had shrunk by nearly 40%, while unemployment was surging and inflation skyrocketing. (It reached a monumental 86% in 1999.) The Russian military was a mess. Instead of seizing the opportunity to create a new European order that included Russia, President Bill Clinton and his foreign-policy team squandered it by deciding to expand NATO threateningly toward that country’s borders. Such a misbegotten policy guaranteed that Europe would once again be divided, even as Washington created a new order that excluded and progressively alienated post-Soviet Russia.​
The Russians were perplexed — as well they should have been.​
At the time, Clinton and company were hailing Russian President Boris Yeltsin as a democrat. (Never mind that he had lobbed tank shells at his own recalcitrant parliament in 1993 and, in 1996, prevailed in a crooked election, abetted weirdly enough by Washington.) They praised him for launching a “transition” to a market economy, which, as Nobel Laureate Svetlana Alexievich so poignantly laid out in her book Second Hand Time, would plunge millions of Russians into penury by “decontrolling” prices and slashing state-provided social services.​
Why, Russians wondered, would Washington obsessively push a Cold War NATO alliance ever closer to their borders, knowing that a reeling Russia was in no position to endanger any European country?​
An alliance saved from oblivion
Unfortunately, those who ran or influenced American foreign policy found no time to ponder such an obvious question. After all, there was a world out there for the planet’s sole superpower to lead and, if the U.S. wasted time on introspection, “the jungle,” as the influential neoconservative thinker Robert Kagan put it, would grow back and the world would be “imperiled.” So, the Clintonites and their successors in the White House found new causes to promote using American power, a fixation that would lead to serial campaigns of intervention and social engineering.​
The expansion of NATO was an early manifestation of this millenarian mindset, something theologian Reinhold Niebuhr had warned about in his classic book, The Irony of American History. But who in Washington was paying attention, when the world’s fate and the future were being designed by us, and only us, in what Washington Post neoconservative columnist Charles Krauthammer celebrated in 1990 as the ultimate “unipolar moment” — one in which, for the first time ever, the United States would possess peerless power?​
Still, why use that opportunity to expand NATO, which had been created in 1949 to deter the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact from rolling into Western Europe, given that both the Soviet Union and its alliance were now gone? Wasn’t it akin to breathing life into a mummy?​
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Very very close but an additional factor. The "coup" was local because of the Government's backtrack on the day about leaning EU after a vote to do so. True; Obama and Biden attached themselves to it but it was Putin who made the decision to take the Crimea. Ensure the blame is placed on PUTIN where it fully belongs. The FACT that Obama and Biden were weak as piss is a given.

Greg
 
It is true, look how we reacted to Russia setting up a base in Cuba.
Clinton pushed Nato farther East. Bush did also though.
But here comes Biden pushing for Georgia and Ukraine to be NATO and talks about setting missile batteries right on Russia's borders.
Imagine if Russia set up missle batteries in Canada and Mexico. You think we would mind that?

Democrats - War!! War!! War!! - not enough dead!!! More war!!!
 
Russia was provoked.

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Biden and his foreign policy team refuse to discuss these roots of the war. To recognize them would undermine the administration in three ways. First, it would expose the fact that the war could have been avoided, or stopped early, sparing Ukraine its current devastation and the U.S. more than $100 billion in outlays to date. Second, it would expose President Biden's personal role in the war as a participant in the overthrow of Yanukovych, and before that as a staunch backer of the military-industrial complex and very early advocate of NATO enlargement. Third, it would push Biden to the negotiating table, undermining the administration's continued push for NATO expansion.

The archives show irrefutably that the U.S. and German governments repeatedly promised to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not move "one inch eastward" when the Soviet Union disbanded the Warsaw Pact military alliance. Nonetheless, U.S. planning for NATO expansion began early in the 1990s, well before Vladimir Putin was Russia's president. In 1997, national security expert Zbigniew Brzezinski spelled out the NATO expansion timeline with remarkable precision.

U.S. diplomats and Ukraine's own leaders knew well that NATO enlargement could lead to war. The great US scholar-statesman George Kennan called NATO enlargement a "fateful error," writing in the New York Times that, "Such a decision may be expected to inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion; to have an adverse effect on the development of Russian democracy; to restore the atmosphere of the cold war to East-West relations, and to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking."

President Bill Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Perry considered resigning in protest against NATO enlargement. In reminiscing about this crucial moment in the mid-1990s, Perry said the following in 2016: "Our first action that really set us off in a bad direction was when NATO started to expand, bringing in eastern European nations, some of them bordering Russia. At that time, we were working closely with Russia and they were beginning to get used to the idea that NATO could be a friend rather than an enemy ... but they were very uncomfortable about having NATO right up on their border and they made a strong appeal for us not to go ahead with that."

In 2008, then U.S. Ambassador to Russia, and now CIA Director, William Burns, sent a cable to Washington warning at length of grave risks of NATO enlargement: "Ukraine and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face."

Ukraine's leaders knew clearly that pressing for NATO enlargement to Ukraine would mean war. Former Zelensky advisor Oleksiy Arestovych declared in a 2019 interview "that our price for joining NATO is a big war with Russia."

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Originally posted by excalibur
Yes, Democrats own this since Clinton.

This is petty partisanship, excalibur.

The neocon project of expanding NATO received strong bipartisan support for the last 30 years.

Republican and democrat presidents come and go and the policy remained the same.

It became a permanent state policy regardless of the political affiliation of the POTUS in question.

Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bolton, Rumsfeld, etc... with their bosses' blessings, called Russia's bluff and found out she wasn't bluffing.

What really saddens me is the fact that none of them will be taken to Ukraine, forced to get down on their knees while of giant line of relatives of dead ukrainian soldiers would be waiting to piss inside their mouths.
 

Russia's invasion of Ukraine was PROVOKED by NATO expansion and a U.S.-backed 2014 coup, according to three decades of leading U.S. military and foreign policy experts:

•Ambassador George Kennan
•Ambassador Jack Matlock
•Senator Joe Biden
•Senator Bill Bradley
•Senator Sam Nunn
•Senator Gary Hart
•Senator Gordon Humphrey
•Secretary of State Henry Kissinger
•Defense Secretary Robert McNamara
•Defense Secretary William Perry
•Defense Secretary Robert Gates
•CIA Director William Burns
•CIA Director Stansfield Turner
•Professor Edward Herman
•Professor Noam Chomsky
•Professor John Mearsheimer
•Prime Minister Paul Keating
•Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser


 
This is petty partisanship, excalibur.

The neocon project of expanding NATO received strong bipartisan support for the last 30 years.

Republican and democrat presidents come and go and the policy remained the same.

It became a permanent state policy regardless of the political affiliation of the POTUS in question.

Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bolton, Rumsfeld, etc... with their bosses' blessings, called Russia's bluff and found out she wasn't bluffing.

What really saddens me is the fact that none of them will be taken to Ukraine, forced to get down on their knees while of giant line of relatives of dead ukrainian soldiers would be waiting to piss inside their mouths.
Neo-Libs and Neo-Cons are the same.

Birds of a feather.

Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan are married.

That about sums it up.
 
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