The Black Founders

[Ravi]

Oh, right...the noble white man...how could I forget that they weren't interested in winning the war but interested in what slaves thought.

I thought you were an asshole and it turns out I was right.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Yeah everyone who proves you are dishonest is an asshole.
Im shocked .... just shocked

 

[mudwhistle]

As usual Ravi here to minimize the role of black people. What a surprise.

I watched the show too and it was very, very interesting.

Particularly interesting is the fact that children aren't taught the huge role blacks had in the Revolution. If we teach our kids that blacks were instrumental in establishing this country, then the left wouldn't be able to justify shitting all over the country because it "leaves out" blacks.

ha! How did I minimize anything?

Beck is using blacks for his own ends.

Funny you rightwingloons have outlawed teaching kids that some Hispanics contributed to the country...and you tried to do the same with black history. I hear in Texas the textbooks now pretend that blacks volunteered to be slaves.

Yes...we did...in your mind.

What you hear must be true about Texas.

What was outlawed was the teaching of any studies that push an agenda that can be used to overthrow the government.

But to loons like you that means being mean to Hispanics.

 

[antagon]

If you want to call James Madison a liar, so be it.

What we weren't taught is that George Washington eventually mandated that no more blacks could enlist because too many people were worried that if they had guns they'd have an uprising against their masters.

Nope you dont get to hide behind his skirts , you dont know all of his concerns,
You seem only interested in ignoring the fact that there were other concerns.

They thought it wrong to send slave to fight for freedom they couldnt have themselves

They thought it wrong to take slaves from someone in return for there freedom with out remuneration

They thought it wrong to have rich folk dodge the draft by using slaves as substitute.

you are a comedian, fitnah. your other concerns got the 'so what' treatment in this debate where victory took top consideration, and the perceived security risk of armed, trained black men took second. only a handful of quakers and like-minded would care about these justice issues which you've brought up, which is supported by considering the sentiments of the time as they played out in the years to follow when the nature of the colonial government was debated.

80 years later, the same concern persisted as the south prepared for war. they weren't concerned that plantation owners were putting up slaves in their stead, they were concerned that slaves, if armed, would constitute an armed force outnumbering white men.

100 years after that, the southern argument persisted: outnumbered, their votes and their society of neatly segregated facilities and social strata will be overcome by black americans if they were granted the freedom due all other americans.

in your fantasy world, did slaves turn down pay or strap themselves to trees?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

In May 1775, the Massachusetts Committee of Safety, stopped the enlistment of slaves in the armies of the colony. This action was adopted by the Continental Congress when they took over the Patriot Army.

A consensus was reached on what was important ,
Its in the second paragraph have your mother read it to you.

 

[paperview]

If you want to call James Madison a liar, so be it.

What we weren't taught is that George Washington eventually mandated that no more blacks could enlist because too many people were worried that if they had guns they'd have an uprising against their masters.

Nope you dont get to hide behind his skirts , you dont know all of his concerns,
You seem only interested in ignoring the fact that there were other concerns.

They thought it wrong to send slave to fight for freedom they couldnt have themselves

They thought it wrong to take slaves from someone in return for there freedom with out remuneration

They thought it wrong to have rich folk dodge the draft by using slaves as substitute.

you are a comedian, fitnah. your other concerns got the 'so what' treatment in this debate where victory took top consideration, and the perceived security risk of armed, trained black men took second. only a handful of quakers and like-minded would care about these justice issues which you've brought up, which is supported by considering the sentiments of the time as they played out in the years to follow when the nature of the colonial government was debated.

80 years later, the same concern persisted as the south prepared for war. they weren't concerned that plantation owners were putting up slaves in their stead, they were concerned that slaves, if armed, would constitute an armed force outnumbering white men.

100 years after that, the southern argument persisted: outnumbered, their votes and their society of neatly segregated facilities and social strata will be overcome by black americans if they were granted the freedom due all other americans.

in your fantasy world, did slaves turn down pay or strap themselves to trees?

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head.