Ted Cruz Could Be First Canadian-Born US President: Here’s Why

[HenryBHough]

This is post-constitutional America.

Those antiquated traditions pertaining to birthplace were put behind us years ago. In 2008 to be exact.

 

[Skylar]

What happened to Chester A. Arthur? Have liberal revisionists taken him off the list of past presidents?

Arthur was born in the US. So the analogy is imperfect.

 

[Skylar]

This is post-constitutional America.

Those antiquated traditions pertaining to birthplace were put behind us years ago. In 2008 to be exact.

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

 

[Skylar]

Most Americans learn early on that you can’t be president of the United States unless you’re born in America. But to the confusion of civics students everywhere, Ted Cruz’s presidential story begins in Canada.

The Texas senator, who officially announced his bid for president today at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, was born in Calgary, Canada in 1970. (Cruz even briefly mentioned Canada in his speech.)

So, why doesn't the Canadian-born US senator seem to be worried?

Let’s review:

According to the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

While Cruz received U.S. citizenship through his American mother, he was a Canadian citizen by virtue of his birth, the Dallas Morning News discovered in 2013.

While some conservatives –and Donald Trump—have questioned Cruz’s presidential eligibility, and the Supreme Court has never weighed in on the subject, many legal experts believe his Canadian citizenship didn’t disqualify him from running for president. Both John McCain and George Romney ran for president, despite being born in the Panama Canal Zone and Mexico, respectively.

The most recent defense of Cruz’s eligibility came in a recent article in the Harvard Law Review, where two lawyers who worked in the Bush and Obama administrations argued that Cruz’s mother’s citizenship and his father’s status as a U.S. resident covered the Constitution’s requirement.

Ted Cruz Could Be First Canadian-Born US President Here s Why - Yahoo News

Apart from the fact that mass media love this "first somebody persident" tag... What do you think about the story? I mean, here's a clear answer to all those questioning Ted Cruz's right to run for president. Is it satisfying? Or are we being tricked again?

As for me... Dunno... I have my doubts. It's too... sneaky. A rule is a rule.

Ted Cruz was born to an American citizen. He is a natural born citizen.

No he is not. He is a statutory citizen.

The US law doesn't recognize 'statutory citizens'. There's only citizen at birth (natural born) and citizen after birth (naturalized).

Though for some strange reason Congress created an explicit exception for Puerto Rico. Folks born there are 'naturalized at birth'. Its the only example of it US law.

 

[HenryBHough]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

 

[Pheonixops]

This is post-constitutional America.

Those antiquated traditions pertaining to birthplace were put behind us years ago. In 2008 to be exact.

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Well, "reasoning" is the key word.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

This is post-constitutional America.

Those antiquated traditions pertaining to birthplace were put behind us years ago. In 2008 to be exact.

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Well, "reasoning" is the key word.

I'm pretty sure Barrack Hussein Obama was born somewhere in the middle east.

 

[Skylar]

This is post-constitutional America.

Those antiquated traditions pertaining to birthplace were put behind us years ago. In 2008 to be exact.

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Well, "reasoning" is the key word.

I'm pretty sure Barrack Hussein Obama was born somewhere in the middle east.

I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Most Americans learn early on that you can’t be president of the United States unless you’re born in America. But to the confusion of civics students everywhere, Ted Cruz’s presidential story begins in Canada.

The Texas senator, who officially announced his bid for president today at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, was born in Calgary, Canada in 1970. (Cruz even briefly mentioned Canada in his speech.)

So, why doesn't the Canadian-born US senator seem to be worried?

Let’s review:

According to the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

While Cruz received U.S. citizenship through his American mother, he was a Canadian citizen by virtue of his birth, the Dallas Morning News discovered in 2013.

While some conservatives –and Donald Trump—have questioned Cruz’s presidential eligibility, and the Supreme Court has never weighed in on the subject, many legal experts believe his Canadian citizenship didn’t disqualify him from running for president. Both John McCain and George Romney ran for president, despite being born in the Panama Canal Zone and Mexico, respectively.

The most recent defense of Cruz’s eligibility came in a recent article in the Harvard Law Review, where two lawyers who worked in the Bush and Obama administrations argued that Cruz’s mother’s citizenship and his father’s status as a U.S. resident covered the Constitution’s requirement.

Ted Cruz Could Be First Canadian-Born US President Here s Why - Yahoo News

Apart from the fact that mass media love this "first somebody persident" tag... What do you think about the story? I mean, here's a clear answer to all those questioning Ted Cruz's right to run for president. Is it satisfying? Or are we being tricked again?

As for me... Dunno... I have my doubts. It's too... sneaky. A rule is a rule.

Ted Cruz was born to an American citizen. He is a natural born citizen.

No he is not. He is a statutory citizen.

Yes, he is so. He is a natural born citizen.

 

[Skylar]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

 

[HenryBHough]

I'm pretty sure Barrack Hussein Obama was born somewhere in the middle east.

If there actually IS such a person.

Consider the extent to which "new" identities can be created for witness protection programs. Professionally done they're about impenetrable. Put it in the hands of a semi-pro and you come up with things like social security numbers from states not in any way otherwise linked to the creation.

Biggest question may not be "WHERE" at all!

 

[Skylar]

I'm pretty sure Barrack Hussein Obama was born somewhere in the middle east.

If there actually IS such a person.

Consider the extent to which "new" identities can be created for witness protection programs. Professionally done they're about impenetrable. Put it in the hands of a semi-pro and you come up with things like social security numbers from states not in any way otherwise linked to the creation.

Biggest question may not be "WHERE" at all!

I'd ask if you have the slightest evidence that Obama is part of the "Witness Protection Program", but we both know the answer to that one.

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

Show me a birth certificate that he didn't have forged.

 

[Skylar]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

Show me a birth certificate that he didn't have forged.

Forged according to who? Remember, the State of Hawaii already confirmed he was born in Hawaii. And that the information on the image of his LFBC matches their original records.

But you know better, huh?

 

[HenryBHough]

I raise questions, Skybar tries to reply with questions and fails.

ObLaDi-ObLaDAHHHHHH, life goes on.......

 

[SUPERMAN1929]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

Show me a birth certificate that he didn't have forged.

Forged according to who? Remember, the State of Hawaii already confirmed he was born in Hawaii. And that the information on the image of his LFBC matches their original records.

But you know better, huh?

You don't think Obama has connections? Our entire government is corrupt...

 

[Skylar]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

Show me a birth certificate that he didn't have forged.

Forged according to who? Remember, the State of Hawaii already confirmed he was born in Hawaii. And that the information on the image of his LFBC matches their original records.

But you know better, huh?

You don't think Obama has connections? Our entire government is corrupt...

Dude, every president has connections. Using your logic, we can never know where any president was born. Based on nothing more than any random speculation you choose to cling to for any reason.

Back in the evidence based world, Obama's place of birth has been established as thoroughly as any president in US history. All legal requirements have been met. All reasonable doubts answered.

What's left are unreasonable doubts. And they obligate no one to do anything.

 

[Skylar]

I raise questions, Skybar tries to reply with questions and fails.

ObLaDi-ObLaDAHHHHHH, life goes on.......

Yup. Obama's still president. And rightfully so.

And?

 

[Liminal]

Given that Obama was born in Hawaii, I'm not quite sure how your reasoning works. As Hawaii is in the US.

Certain beliefs that are cute in very young children become annoyances when they hit their teens.

Overwhelmed by the facts again, are you?

Show me a birth certificate that he didn't have forged.

Show me your high school diploma, assuming it wasn't forged.

 

[Liminal]

Most Americans learn early on that you can’t be president of the United States unless you’re born in America. But to the confusion of civics students everywhere, Ted Cruz’s presidential story begins in Canada.

The Texas senator, who officially announced his bid for president today at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, was born in Calgary, Canada in 1970. (Cruz even briefly mentioned Canada in his speech.)

So, why doesn't the Canadian-born US senator seem to be worried?

Let’s review:

According to the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a “natural born citizen” of the United States.

While Cruz received U.S. citizenship through his American mother, he was a Canadian citizen by virtue of his birth, the Dallas Morning News discovered in 2013.

While some conservatives –and Donald Trump—have questioned Cruz’s presidential eligibility, and the Supreme Court has never weighed in on the subject, many legal experts believe his Canadian citizenship didn’t disqualify him from running for president. Both John McCain and George Romney ran for president, despite being born in the Panama Canal Zone and Mexico, respectively.

The most recent defense of Cruz’s eligibility came in a recent article in the Harvard Law Review, where two lawyers who worked in the Bush and Obama administrations argued that Cruz’s mother’s citizenship and his father’s status as a U.S. resident covered the Constitution’s requirement.

Ted Cruz Could Be First Canadian-Born US President Here s Why - Yahoo News

Apart from the fact that mass media love this "first somebody persident" tag... What do you think about the story? I mean, here's a clear answer to all those questioning Ted Cruz's right to run for president. Is it satisfying? Or are we being tricked again?

As for me... Dunno... I have my doubts. It's too... sneaky. A rule is a rule.

Ted Cruz was born to an American citizen. He is a natural born citizen.

Are you sure? He sort of looks like an alien to me.