Supreme Court Says No to Citizenship Question, Trump Rebukes Them with Executive Order

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Why does POTUS even need to get permission from the SCOTUS to ask a question on the census that should be on every census?
Sadly he has backed down.
It would have been great to have an accurate citizen / non citizen count and redistribute both money and House seats accordingly. But California and New York would be big losers so it's no surprise the Dems cried loudly about this.
I hope his plan to have all the fed depts do a count doesn't backfire on him/us.
I would love it if he just inserted the question into the census anyway because he really should NOT have to get permission to ask it!
 

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Yes, but the question still will NOT appear on the census questionnaire:

"...Speaking from the White House, Mr. Trump said he was issuing an executive order to all agencies in the federal government to pool their existing data and send it to the Commerce Department, which will try to come up with a count without having to stick the question on the census itself.

Mr. Trump said it will be able to calculate not just citizens and non-citizens, but will finally produce a count of the illegal immigrant population..."

Trump drops census citizenship question, orders feds to do count from existing records


Yeah, sounds like it will reeeeal accurate...


Looks like it's still a loss for Trump

That's another thing that will end up going to the Supreme Court. There is no way you can make decisions on the number of districts and the amount of resources given to a community based on an "estimated number" of non-citizens in that area being factored in. It's just another clusterfuck that a person like Bill Barr is showing either how unqualified to be AG, or so partisan and a mindless Trump backer, that he would actually help the President to draw this up.

"That's another thing that will end up going to the Supreme Court"

Hence their wily attempt to sidestep yet another issue buys them no victory, but merely a delay of the inevitable, plus an added decision for their future to-do list. Silly judges...maybe that is why they are always backlogged....somebody call an efficiency-expert!
 
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Yes, but the question still will NOT appear on the census questionnaire:

"...Speaking from the White House, Mr. Trump said he was issuing an executive order to all agencies in the federal government to pool their existing data and send it to the Commerce Department, which will try to come up with a count without having to stick the question on the census itself.

Mr. Trump said it will be able to calculate not just citizens and non-citizens, but will finally produce a count of the illegal immigrant population..."

Trump drops census citizenship question, orders feds to do count from existing records


Yeah, sounds like it will reeeeal accurate...


Looks like it's still a loss for Trump

That's another thing that will end up going to the Supreme Court. There is no way you can make decisions on the number of districts and the amount of resources given to a community based on an "estimated number" of non-citizens in that area being factored in. It's just another clusterfuck that a person like Bill Barr is showing either how unqualified to be AG, or so partisan and a mindless Trump backer, that he would actually help the President to draw this up.

"That's another thing that will end up going to the Supreme Court"

Hence their wily attempt to sidestep yet another issue buys them no victory, but merely a delay of the inevitable, plus an added decision for their future to-do list. Silly judges...maybe that is why they are always backlogged....somebody call an efficiency-expert!
Yes it is a key tactic that politicians have been using for many years, and I am sure will use for many years to come. If you don't have a great talking point or problem to show the voters needs to be solved, you simply create one that you can say you are an expert at and are the best one to do the job.
 

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