Starbucks in Saudi Arabia refuses to serve women

[TNHarley]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

Same with you political hack jobs. Whats the difference?

 

[rightwinger]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

Same with you political hack jobs. Whats the difference?

?

 

[TNHarley]

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

Same with you political hack jobs. Whats the difference?

?

?!?

 

[Votto]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

 

[Tilly]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

They haven't all 'joined' the religion but are born into it whether they like it or not. Apostasy is a death sentence. So, you may now express that you take offence

 

[rightwinger]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

 

[Votto]

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it.

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

 

[rightwinger]

Not my religion
I think all religions have stupid rules. But if you are naïve enough to join one, I guess you got to follow the rules

Muslims are very protective of women, as are orthodox Jews and many fundamentalist Christians

While we may mock them, they look at our women running around dressed like whores with disgust

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

Their country...their rules

 

[Votto]

Last I checked Christians were offended at the cups made by Starbucks and they were ridiculed. Is it OK to shun one culture but bow to another, especially when that culture is at war with women?

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

Their country...their rules

So you don't have an issue with American corporations supporting them?

 

[rightwinger]

If not for the fact that women voluntarily accept those rules when they join the religion.......I might be offended

Religious people are idiots. They voluntarily accepts rules and live their lives to appease some imaginary creature

Nothing I can do about it

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

Their country...their rules

So you don't have an issue with American corporations supporting them?

What is an American corporation?

 

[Votto]

So if the majority of women in the US oppose abortion, for example, then you are OK with making it illegal?

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

Their country...their rules

So you don't have an issue with American corporations supporting them?

What is an American corporation?

You know, Starbucks run by one of the biggest liberals in US history.

 

[aris2chat]

diarrhea of the mouth constipation of the brain you talk with out the facts or engaging our brain. Did no one check the news?

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

No, I don't approve of the rules in saudi where women are concerned, but all this fuss over a few days till a wall could be replaced. You guys really are making a mountain over a mole hill. It is not up to Starbucks to change saudi moral laws because a wall had to be replaced and it tools

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

took a few days to get permits, material and workers to finish it. You are not going to change the laws of the land over a few days without a coffee.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

>>
Starbucks issued the following statement to CNN: "At Starbucks, we adhere to the local customs of Saudi Arabia by providing separate entrances for families as well as single people. In addition, all our stores provide equal amenities, service, menu, and seating to men, women and families."
The statement continues: "We are working as quickly as possible as we refurbish our Jarir store so that we may again welcome all customers in accordance with local customs."
On Monday, Starbucks shared an update: "Starbucks welcomes all customers, including women and families, to enjoy the Starbucks experience. We have worked with local authorities to obtain approval to refurbish one of our stores in Jarir, which was originally built without a gender wall. That meant it could only accommodate men in accordance with local law.
"This was the only such Starbucks store in Saudi Arabia. During construction, the store could only accommodate and serve single men, and a poster was placed at the store entrance as required by local law.
The statement went on: "We are pleased to share that the store is now accessible to single men on one side as well as women and families on the other side. Starbucks has now 78 stores in Saudi Arabia and all stores cater to both families and singles, except for one that is exclusively reserved for women and families."<<

So if there is, say, a Starbucks in the South and someone requests a drink with a Confederate flag on it, are they to follow the local customs and oblige them?

There is a difference between custom and law, in this case sharia morality law according the wahabi.

Business and people that go to saudi have to follow the law. Penalties can be harsh.

Now if you wore a cross and it was visible, you would be in trouble. Speak of Jesus or the bible, or hand out religious information can mean death

This is not some conservative quaint amish town, with few or no "english"; medieval renaissance fair or pilgrim recreation in plimoth.. It is saudi arabia.

 

[Votto]

diarrhea of the mouth constipation of the brain you talk with out the facts or engaging our brain. Did no one check the news?

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

No, I don't approve of the rules in saudi where women are concerned, but all this fuss over a few days till a wall could be replaced. You guys really are making a mountain over a mole hill. It is not up to Starbucks to change saudi moral laws because a wall had to be replaced and it tools

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

took a few days to get permits, material and workers to finish it. You are not going to change the laws of the land over a few days without a coffee.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

>>
Starbucks issued the following statement to CNN: "At Starbucks, we adhere to the local customs of Saudi Arabia by providing separate entrances for families as well as single people. In addition, all our stores provide equal amenities, service, menu, and seating to men, women and families."
The statement continues: "We are working as quickly as possible as we refurbish our Jarir store so that we may again welcome all customers in accordance with local customs."
On Monday, Starbucks shared an update: "Starbucks welcomes all customers, including women and families, to enjoy the Starbucks experience. We have worked with local authorities to obtain approval to refurbish one of our stores in Jarir, which was originally built without a gender wall. That meant it could only accommodate men in accordance with local law.
"This was the only such Starbucks store in Saudi Arabia. During construction, the store could only accommodate and serve single men, and a poster was placed at the store entrance as required by local law.
The statement went on: "We are pleased to share that the store is now accessible to single men on one side as well as women and families on the other side. Starbucks has now 78 stores in Saudi Arabia and all stores cater to both families and singles, except for one that is exclusively reserved for women and families."<<

So if there is, say, a Starbucks in the South and someone requests a drink with a Confederate flag on it, are they to follow the local customs and oblige them?

There is a difference between custom and law, in this case sharia morality law according the wahabi.

Business and people that go to saudi have to follow the law. Penalties can be harsh.

Now if you wore a cross and it was visible, you would be in trouble. Speak of Jesus or the bible, or hand out religious information can mean death

This is not some conservative quaint amish town, with few or no "english"; medieval renaissance fair or pilgrim recreation in plimoth.. It is saudi arabia.

So tell me something I don't know

Should Starbuck cash in on a women hating society by simply doing their bidding?

 

[blastoff]

A traveling business companion had a novel seized from his luggage by Riyadh customs. He asked where in the airport he should stop on the way out to pick it up but was informed that's not how things worked. His book would have to be destroyed, burned.

The novel was The Da Vinci Code and it was taken because its religious content was other than Islam and thus banned by the kingdom.

 

[ClosedCaption]

This Starbucks in Saudi Arabia Has Banned Women from Entering the Establishment — See the Crazy Reason Why

I realize that in that part of the world we have grown accustomed to hearing about this sort of mistreatment of women, but should Starbucks be apart of it?

We had Righties here defending all sorts of discrimation claiming it should be up to the business.

Add in Muslim and watch them do a 180

 

[ClosedCaption]

Damn I miss those days of dragging women around by their hair !!

Good news though, Muslims are bringing the past back !! Liberals rejoice !

You think you're better than them because instead of not serving women you support denying gays service like Jesus would've wanted

 

[Votto]

This Starbucks in Saudi Arabia Has Banned Women from Entering the Establishment — See the Crazy Reason Why

I realize that in that part of the world we have grown accustomed to hearing about this sort of mistreatment of women, but should Starbucks be apart of it?

We had Righties here defending all sorts of discrimation claiming it should be up to the business.

Add in Muslim and watch them do a 180

And we had all sorts of lefties saying they should not have the right to discriminate.

But I guess now it is OK.

So for the record, gay rights are in and women's rights are out.

 

[ClosedCaption]

No its just that you guess wrong...guess again

 

[rightwinger]

I have no problem if Americans use their constitutional rights to change abortion laws

Go for it

So for the record, you have no issue with Starbucks feeding into misogyny just so long as the majority of the mob rules?

Their country...their rules

So you don't have an issue with American corporations supporting them?

What is an American corporation?

You know, Starbucks run by one of the biggest liberals in US history.

I don't see your point

Is there one?

 

[OldLady]

While I am no fan of Saudi Arabia, I fail to see the rightwing outrage over this one

From the OP
The reason? Because a barrier inside the store separating families from singles recently fell down. The store is temporarily asking women to have a man purchase their desired items.

Saudi Arabia has strict prohibitions on single women mingling in a social situation. A woman who does so is considered a slut.

Barring women while the barrier is being rebuilt does not seem much of an outrage

Notice the males are not considered the slut, hence the hypocrisy.

The left seems willing to oblige the Islamic war on women just so long as they are making money doing it. The left has no moral high ground when it comes to the rights of women, but of course, we already knew that.

Continue to chug down your over priced drinks lefties and enjoy knowing you are paying a corporation that is at war with women

Starbucks is a BUSINESS. They exist to make money. To do business in Saudi Arabia, you follow local customs. They want all those women to buy their coffee. What else would they be expected to do? I fail to see how the "Left" enters into this at all, and somehow making this into a 'war on women' is just extraordinary thinking. Starbucks' accomodations for their female customers beat coffee shops that don't allow women at all, for the same reasons, imo.