Then she was wrong. Would you be happy if Trump fired her for it?
Spicer cites Atlanta terror attack that never happened
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Then she was wrong. Would you be happy if Trump fired her for it?
usmbguest5318
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I haven't seen that they did so. If they did, I'm happy to stop citing those instances of their misspeaking, and I'm happy to call those instances simple gaffes. I don't think, however, that two single retractions by two individuals militate for saying the Trump team consistently owns their errors, but I'm willing to give credit where its been earned.
It's worth noting that no amount of forthrightness by Conway and Spicer can ameliorate for Trump's lack thereof. Sooner or later the "tone at the top" overrides and infects the people below, or it inspires them to greatness. In Trump's case, the former appears to be all that's gone on so far. Change is needed and it has to start with Trump himself.
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Seawytch
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The world is laughing!
easyt65
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Centennial Olympic Park bombing - Wikipedia
"The Centennial Olympic Park bombing was a domestic terrorist pipe bombing attack on the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, Georgia, on July 27 during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The blast directly killed 1 person and injured 111 others; another person later died of a heart attack. It was the first of four bombings committed by Eric Robert Rudolph."
This is the only attack I could immediately find...and it was a DOMESTIC terrorist attack. If he was using THIS attack to support the Trump Travel Ban, Trump should pull Spicer aside, look him right in the eyes, and say, 'You're FIRED!'
"The Centennial Olympic Park bombing was a domestic terrorist pipe bombing attack on the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, Georgia, on July 27 during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The blast directly killed 1 person and injured 111 others; another person later died of a heart attack. It was the first of four bombings committed by Eric Robert Rudolph."
This is the only attack I could immediately find...and it was a DOMESTIC terrorist attack. If he was using THIS attack to support the Trump Travel Ban, Trump should pull Spicer aside, look him right in the eyes, and say, 'You're FIRED!'
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Gee the Iraqi gentlemen in question from Bowling Green were caught with a Stinger Missle Launcher and other heavy weapons including Russian machine guns.
Do you think maybe they were preparing for buck season? Yeah. Yeah. That's the ticket. The refugees thought that's how you hunt in America.
Yeah, yeah. That's the ticket.
Trying to help the Comrade, SHE SAID THERE WAS A MASSACRE! SHE LIED!
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He won't cause he lies more than they do. It is their badge on honor.
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Obama's staff didn't repeatedly reference "57 states". It was a one off slip of the tongue.
Seawytch
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What Obama's people should have done is attack the press for not reporting that there are 57 states.
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Gee the Iraqi gentlemen in question from Bowling Green were caught with a Stinger Missle Launcher and other heavy weapons including Russian machine guns.
Do you think maybe they were preparing for buck season? Yeah. Yeah. That's the ticket. The refugees thought that's how you hunt in America.
Yeah, yeah. That's the ticket.
I think they were caught in a sting by the FBI attempting to ship money and weapons overseas to assist in Iraq. Those are the facts.
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Obama said there are plenty of shovel ready jobs and you can keep your own dr.
LIES!!!!!!!!!
usmbguest5318
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I want to be clear. I don't consider being wrong -- either by mere gaffe or by some form of ignorance -- the same as lying. The difference, when it comes to political and other leaders, is that lies are told to advance some end and in response to being called on them, they try to dance and wiggle their way out of them or they double down on them. When such people are just wrong with no malfeasant, conniving or contriving intent, they just own it and move on. Everyone knows this just as well as I do.
Now here's the thing. Even though everyone is at times honestly mistaken/wrong, there are some things people in the White House just aren't allowed to be wrong about. The fact is that being privileged to serve the U.S. from the WH carries with it a higher bar. The electorate, other nations and their leaders, the press, and everyone else must be able to rely on the veracity of what a President and his Administration employees say.
The problem with Trump and his Administration isn't they are the intellectual equivalent of Gerald Ford and his physical clumsiness, it's that they are found with regularity to be be wrong, and for many of the misstatements there is a clear political end being served by the misstatement, paltering and prevarication. That's the problem, not that folks merely slip up by saying "Korea" instead of "Crimea," or "Atlanta" instead of (perhaps) "Orlando."
I kind of see the Korea-Crimea gaffe. It's harder for me to "get" the Atlanta-Orlando thing, in large part because (1) not only are the two city names not at all similar, but also (2) he said it three times in mere minutes. That said, Spicer did say he meant Orlando. Okay. I'll give him a pass for it.
Now here's the thing. Even though everyone is at times honestly mistaken/wrong, there are some things people in the White House just aren't allowed to be wrong about. The fact is that being privileged to serve the U.S. from the WH carries with it a higher bar. The electorate, other nations and their leaders, the press, and everyone else must be able to rely on the veracity of what a President and his Administration employees say.
The problem with Trump and his Administration isn't they are the intellectual equivalent of Gerald Ford and his physical clumsiness, it's that they are found with regularity to be be wrong, and for many of the misstatements there is a clear political end being served by the misstatement, paltering and prevarication. That's the problem, not that folks merely slip up by saying "Korea" instead of "Crimea," or "Atlanta" instead of (perhaps) "Orlando."
I kind of see the Korea-Crimea gaffe. It's harder for me to "get" the Atlanta-Orlando thing, in large part because (1) not only are the two city names not at all similar, but also (2) he said it three times in mere minutes. That said, Spicer did say he meant Orlando. Okay. I'll give him a pass for it.
L.K.Eder
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and that horrible kenyan doubled down on the alternative state number, and claimed that the media underreported the real number of states. then hussein claimed that his state tour was the best ever with the most states visited ever. sad.
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Obama is gone. Let's talk about the Liar in Chief that is president now....wait....that is Steve Bannon. Let's talk about the Comrade, Putin's wife.
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The whole administration is an embarrassment worldwide. The UK Parliament won't allow the Liar in Chief to address them. That is how bad it has gotten. But, president Bannon will continue to write EOs and pursue his stated goal of crashing the US government.
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This president lies and then get his "soulless" staff to go before the media and lie. AMAZING!
NYcarbineer
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Conway said she misspoke then it was discovered she'd told the same lie in another interview some time before.
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