Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and comply "going forward"

[EMH]

This is the problem of having "dysfunctional" "Republicans" in Congress. Trump can EO whatever, but until the Congress backs him up, there are problems and it is easy to reverse an EO.

The almost treasonous idiocy of ordering the tariffs to be null and void and all the endless paperwork and money loss as a result, there is a better solution.

Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and whatever qualifications the SCOTUS just mandated for future changes in tariffs apply to the future. The chaotic financial and regulatory burden of anything else needs to be avoided.

Mike and Thune need to step up and codify the tariffs as they are today.

Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and even "others" need to understand that we, America, the United States, need to avoid the turmoil, chaos, and wealth loss the SCOTUS just dumped on our heads...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Libs love taxing Americans.......anything or anyone that reduces that need is a target The failure of Doge to generate investigations and deserved prosecutions of the rampant theft of taxpayer dollars will be our ruin.

 

[Eman623]

Congress is not subordinate to the president. They should implement targeted tariffs on our enemies and free trade agreements with our friends.

 

[Dante]

This is the problem of having "dysfunctional" "Republicans" in Congress. Trump can EO whatever, but until the Congress backs him up, there are problems and it is easy to reverse an EO.

The almost treasonous idiocy of ordering the tariffs to be null and void and all the endless paperwork and money loss as a result, there is a better solution.

Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and whatever qualifications the SCOTUS just mandated for future changes in tariffs apply to the future. The chaotic financial and regulatory burden of anything else needs to be avoided.

Mike and Thune need to step up and codify the tariffs as they are today.

Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and even "others" need to understand that we, America, the United States, need to avoid the turmoil, chaos, and wealth loss the SCOTUS just dumped on our heads...

"Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and comply "going forward"?"

In what world would they have enough support to do that?

 

[EMH]

Because Article I places the responsibility for import duties (i.e. import taxes or tariffs) with Congress

I wanted to respond in this thread about this point.

Does this not suggest that if Congress codifies the current Trump tariffs, then it is legal?


So if Congress doesn't do that, CONGRESS would cause us to lose trillions of dollars....

 

[WorldWatcher]

I wanted to respond in this thread about this point.

Does this not suggest that if Congress codifies the current Trump tariffs, then it is legal?


So if Congress doesn't do that, CONGRESS would cause us to lose trillions of dollars....

Tariffs are a tax on American consumers, the tariffs (also called import taxes or import duties) are paid by the importer at the point of entry, those costs become part of the cost of doing business, and are then past along to the consumer.

So at the end of the day it is the consumer paying the tariff.

So the US will lose trillions because consumers aren't taxed more? That's quite the progressive view.

WW

 

[EMH]

"Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and comply "going forward"?"

In what world would they have enough support to do that?

When the alternative of not doing it is the US Treasury losing trillions of dollars....

 

[EMH]

So at the end of the day it is the consumer paying the tariff.

That was the philosophy at the time. Now you have other countries with high tariffs on us, and the Executive Branch handles foreign policy, so the issue is part of the larger foreign policy power of the Presidency, especially since Trump is "winning" here for America $$$$$.

 

[skews13]

This is the problem of having "dysfunctional" "Republicans" in Congress. Trump can EO whatever, but until the Congress backs him up, there are problems and it is easy to reverse an EO.

The almost treasonous idiocy of ordering the tariffs to be null and void and all the endless paperwork and money loss as a result, there is a better solution.

Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and whatever qualifications the SCOTUS just mandated for future changes in tariffs apply to the future. The chaotic financial and regulatory burden of anything else needs to be avoided.

Mike and Thune need to step up and codify the tariffs as they are today.

Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and even "others" need to understand that we, America, the United States, need to avoid the turmoil, chaos, and wealth loss the SCOTUS just dumped on our heads...

So you're advocating that Republicans in Congress should permanently impose higher taxes on the American people?

Hey, you should go with that during the campaign before the elections. Sounds like a winning issue.

 

[EMH]

So you're advocating that Republicans in Congress should permanently impose higher taxes on the American people?

A pretty sick and partisan way of looking at it. We had countries that were ripping us off. Trump fixed it. Congress should codify it.

It is a huge net plus for America in the long term

 

[skews13]

A pretty sick and partisan way of looking at it. We had countries that were ripping us off. Trump fixed it. Congress should codify it.

It is a huge net plus for America in the long term

That's not what happened at all.

He used tariffs as a threat to get businesses to pay him not to impose them. It was a total scam.

Congress doesn't have to codify anything. They are the branch of government with the power to impose them.

Did you not read the decision? Are you not aware of Article 1 powers?

You do know we fought the American Revolution over a king imposing taxes on the colonies right?

 

[EMH]

He used tariffs as a threat to get businesses to pay him

he is not AMERICA, he got them to pay AMERICA...

 

[Dante]

When the alternative of not doing it is the US Treasury losing trillions of dollars....

If that were the case, why did they back Trump's Big Disastrous Bill?

next

 

[EMH]

If that were the case, why did they back Trump's Big Disastrous Bill?

next

They really did not, and that's the problem. Elon found things to cut, Speaker Mike didn't lift a finger to help, was dragged kicking and screaming back in to cut some but nowhere near what the base wanted. Trump did the tariffs on his own. Most people like me assumed it was covered by the Executive Branch's control over foreign policy, and it, to me, is sheer idiocy to claim tariffs are not part of foreign policy.

If the Congress took all tariff rates before the court ruling and made them law, I don't see anything stopping it, and that would prevent this disasterous/treasonous refund bullshit fiasco.

 

[Dante]

They really did not, and that's the problem. Elon found things to cut, Speaker Mike didn't lift a finger to help, was dragged kicking and screaming back in to cut some but nowhere near what the base wanted. Trump did the tariffs on his own. Most people like me assumed it was covered by the Executive Branch's control over foreign policy, and it, to me, is sheer idiocy to claim tariffs are not part of foreign policy.

If the Congress took all tariff rates before the court ruling and made them law, I don't see anything stopping it, and that would prevent this disasterous/treasonous refund bullshit fiasco.

"what the base wanted?"

See? That's what so weird about you cultists. Trump promised in his Inaugural to represent ALL Americans, not just his base.

If it's true that "Most people like me assumed it was covered by the Executive Branch's control over foreign policy" - then you've just admitted how ignorantly clueless you all are. There were arguments from day one that said they were not.

"If the Congress took all tariff rates before the court ruling and made them law, I don't see anything stopping it..." - Congress can delegate authority and .. wait, Didn't Robert's address that in his ruling?

go away

 

[EMH]

"what the base wanted?"

See? That's what so weird about you cultists. Trump promised in his Inaugural to represent ALL Americans, not just his base.

If it's true that "Most people like me assumed it was covered by the Executive Branch's control over foreign policy" - then you've just admitted how ignorantly clueless you all are. There were arguments from day one that said they were not.

"If the Congress took all tariff rates before the court ruling and made them law, I don't see anything stopping it..." - Congress can delegate authority and .. wait, Didn't Robert's address that in his ruling?

go away

Translation - yes tariffs are part of foreign policy, so personally attacks and claims of "cult" follow...

 

[citygator]

This is the problem of having "dysfunctional" "Republicans" in Congress. Trump can EO whatever, but until the Congress backs him up, there are problems and it is easy to reverse an EO.

The almost treasonous idiocy of ordering the tariffs to be null and void and all the endless paperwork and money loss as a result, there is a better solution.

Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and whatever qualifications the SCOTUS just mandated for future changes in tariffs apply to the future. The chaotic financial and regulatory burden of anything else needs to be avoided.

Mike and Thune need to step up and codify the tariffs as they are today.

Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, and even "others" need to understand that we, America, the United States, need to avoid the turmoil, chaos, and wealth loss the SCOTUS just dumped on our heads...

It would get defeated by a landslide.

Bacon signals Trump’s new tariff order ‘will be defeated’ by Congress

President Trump’s decision to issue new import taxes across the globe following the Supreme Court’s rebuke of his sweeping tariffs on Friday is drawing broad criticism, including from several Republican lawmakers.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told CNN’s Brianna Keilar on Friday that Congress is sure to challenge the new tariffs and signaled confidence that the levies “will be defeated.”


“It may not have a veto-proof majority, but it will have a majority that will go against that 10 percent global tariff, so I think the president is making a mistake here,” Bacon said.

After the high court ruled on Friday that the Trump administration unlawfully imposed tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), Trump imposed a new 10 percent global tariff. The executive order enacted the taxes under Section 122 of the 1974 Trade Act, which allows for tariffs up to 15 percent for a duration of 150 days to address “large and serious” trade deficits.

 

[EMH]

It would get defeated by a landslide.

Bacon signals Trump’s new tariff order ‘will be defeated’ by Congress

President Trump’s decision to issue new import taxes across the globe following the Supreme Court’s rebuke of his sweeping tariffs on Friday is drawing broad criticism, including from several Republican lawmakers.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told CNN’s Brianna Keilar on Friday that Congress is sure to challenge the new tariffs and signaled confidence that the levies “will be defeated.”


“It may not have a veto-proof majority, but it will have a majority that will go against that 10 percent global tariff, so I think the president is making a mistake here,” Bacon said.

After the high court ruled on Friday that the Trump administration unlawfully imposed tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), Trump imposed a new 10 percent global tariff. The executive order enacted the taxes under Section 122 of the 1974 Trade Act, which allows for tariffs up to 15 percent for a duration of 150 days to address “large and serious” trade deficits.

Yeah, there were those RINOs... yeah, but NOW the issue is

AVOIDING ALL THE CHAOS and LOSS of REFUNDS... whole different issue, do you want America to lose trillions because 6 traitors on SCOTUS believe tariff policy is not foreign policy....

 

[skews13]

he is not AMERICA, he got them to pay AMERICA...

Trump lost. America won. Trump will continue losing. America will continue winning.

 

[Oddball]

Speaker Mike and Leader Thune need to codify the current tariffs, and comply "going forward"​

Those two eunuchs will NEVER codify ANYTHING Trump wants or has EO-ed....They're worse than demoncrats...At least those assholes are above board about their desired fuckery.