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So no right wing supporters have done anything that Soros has done?
Someone needs to clue Stephanie in.....Beck has stated for the record that anyone who takes his show seriously is an idiot.
Id like to see that link.
Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
There is nothing like the blissful ignorance of CON$ervatism.So no right wing supporters have done anything that Soros has done?
I am unaware of ANY prominent rightwinger with any power who has absolutely set out to destroy somebody as Soros and many of the organizations he finances do. Yes there are some right wingnuts who grasp at any straw to keep conspiracy theories going, etc.--they were rampant during the Clinton administration in their attempts to demonize him--but I am aware of nobody with the clout or power of a George Soros who does stuff like that.
As Beck has said during this weeks series of 'exposes', "Don't believe anything because I tell it to you. Check it all out for yourself." That, in my opinion, is excellent advice re ANY talking head on the radio or TV even though Beck does some excellent research on digging some of this stuff out. I don't always agree with his conclusions. But I admire his ability to dig out the facts from which we can all draw conclusions.
There is nothing like the blissful ignorance of CON$ervatism.So no right wing supporters have done anything that Soros has done?
I am unaware of ANY prominent rightwinger with any power who has absolutely set out to destroy somebody as Soros and many of the organizations he finances do. Yes there are some right wingnuts who grasp at any straw to keep conspiracy theories going, etc.--they were rampant during the Clinton administration in their attempts to demonize him--but I am aware of nobody with the clout or power of a George Soros who does stuff like that.
As Beck has said during this weeks series of 'exposes', "Don't believe anything because I tell it to you. Check it all out for yourself." That, in my opinion, is excellent advice re ANY talking head on the radio or TV even though Beck does some excellent research on digging some of this stuff out. I don't always agree with his conclusions. But I admire his ability to dig out the facts from which we can all draw conclusions.
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Comrade Atkins Admits Communist Infiltration of Democratic Party
This blog has long contended that the Communist Party USA and other Marxist groups have heavily infiltrated the Democratic Party.
This has enabled the Communist Party to both influence Democratic Party policy and to choose and promote Democratic candidates at all levels.
Writing on the Party website Political Affairs, comrade C.J. Atkins admits that Communists indeed do work inside the Democratic Party, including on state level policy committees.
Comrade Atkins also admits that Party members work in in Democratic-aligned organizations including Organize for America, Progressive Democrats of America, the Campaign for AmericaÂ’s Future or the New York Working Families Party.
The context here is that Atkins believes that the Party is stigmatized by the "communist" label and should drop the name, in order to more easily and effectively work through the Democrats and other "mainstream" organizations.
Forces on the progressive left must organize as currents within the orbit of the Democratic Party, but as elements separate from it. This is the stance taken by the organized labor movement. And, if the CPUSA is honest with itself, we would see that this is an approach which we have already taken for quite some time as well. Our members participate in the Democratic primary process at the local level, volunteer in GOTV (Get Out The Vote) efforts, and many take part in the platform-drafting process in their local Democratic committees. More participate in Democratic-aligned outfits such as Organize for America, Progressive Democrats of America, or the Campaign for AmericaÂ’s Future.
However, by not formally affiliating with the Democratic Party organizationally (though many members do individually), the CPUSA and some of these other left formations are able to maintain the independence that allows them to join in the mass coalition efforts to defeat the ultra right without endorsing or accepting the corporate influence and control that prevails among too many top Democratic policy-makers.
All of this is to say, we have to consider the possibility that our current practice, which is broadly in agreement with the understanding of political independence summarized above, may not best be served by our continued adherence to a specifically party-type of organization. I would suggest that we ponder whether it may be appropriate to drop not only the “communist” half of our title, but the “party” half as well.
It is my belief that we could be more effectual operating as a socialist and working-class political organization which does not present itself as a “party” as such. By doing so, we could eliminate the ambiguities and confusion which sometimes arises when CPUSA members run as Democratic or independent candidates. Our members can freely participate in the Democratic Party process, with the Working Families Party or other independent political formations, etc. as appropriate to the circumstances and in accordance with collective judgment of the situation. The details of what such an organization would look like would of course have to be discussed in greater detail by the party as a whole, but it is a transformation worth considering.
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New Zeal: Comrade Atkins Admits Communist Infiltration of Democratic Party
Bad logic. George Soros was also a business associate of George W. Bush and a friend of George H. W. Bush. Does that mean that Soros, who became the Big Bad of Fox in 2004, was "in bed" with GWB? A clue from a conservative . . . . turn off Fox. They aren't conservative, and they're lying to you.
Id like to see that link.
Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
Disingenuous. There are legitimate arguments against Beck without you having to make shit up. His message on the subject is not to take anything he or anyone else say's at face value, but do your own research.
I get emails from various policy groups from both sides of the aisle just to see what each sides talking points of the day are. One of them is Media Matters which I believe Soros owns or contributes to. I find both Fox News and MSNBC rather repulsive because of their blind bias. Secondly, I used to watch Beck when he was on CNN, during those days Beck was somewhat watchable, then he went to Fox News and he decided to get seriously wacky. Beck reminds me of Phil Donahue when he was on MSNBC, I can't believe people can take either one of these clowns seriously.
Anyway, back to Media Matters and Beck/Soros. Below is a from this mornings email. It seems that Beck is doing something that Fox News does regularly, doctor tapes/quotes. Here's the Beck misrepresentation.
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BECK: I want you to know and remember this: In the last three episodes, I'm not making claims, I'm not asking questions, I'm not telling you statements of fact. What I'm telling you is, watch George Soros in his own words. Where is the country headed? George Soros.
[start video clip]
QUESTIONER: The question is what whether we need and whether Mr. Soros and his foundations can help to bring more foreign influence in the United States instead of relying on what is essentially a balance between Democrats and conservative Republicans.
SOROS: I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup.
[end video clip]
BECK: It's a problem for him that people in China or France don't get to vote, find out who sits in Congress. Is it for you? You need to make a choice. Mr. Soros has made his choice. I have made mine. Tonight you decide
<snip>
Below is Soros' real and complete response to the interviewer's question:
SOROS: Look, I think -- I think you put your finger on a very important flaw in the current world order, and that is that only Americans have a vote in Congress. And yet, it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world. That is a flaw in the current setup. I don't think you can correct it by giving the Chinese government a vote in Congress. But it is a flaw, and I think this is where American leadership is needed, to take into account and respect the interests of others as well, in order to retain the dominant position we currently enjoy.
Now, adding the complete quote by Soros certainly changes the entire point Beck was tring to make or actually destroys the poin that Beck was trying to make.
Another scare tactic Beck has used in respect to Soros is that he threw money in an effort to bring down other country's governments. But as noted by Michelle Goldberg in an article for the Daily Beast as shown below:
"Obama is his “puppet,” Beck says. Soros has even “infiltrated the churches.” He foments social unrest and economic distress so he can bring down governments, all for his own financial gain. “Four times before,” Beck warned. “We’ll be number five.”
It’s true, of course, that Soros has had a hand in bringing down governments—communist, authoritarian governments. Beck seems to be assuming a colossal level of ignorance on the part of his viewers when he informs them, “Along with currencies, Soros also collapses regimes. With his Open Society Fund… Soros has helped fund the Velvet Revolution in the Czech Republic, the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, the Rose Revolution in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. So what is his target now? Us. America.”
BeckÂ’s implication is that there was something sinister in SorosÂ’ support for anti-communist civil society organizations in the former Soviet Union. Further, he sees such support as evidence that Soros will engineer a communist coup here in the United States. This kind of thinking only makes sense within the conspiratorial mind-set of classic anti-Semitism, in which Jews threaten all governments equally. And as a wealthy Jew with a distinct Eastern European accent, Soros is a perfect target for such theories.
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And to think people eat that Beck's scare tactics right up. It kinda shows how easily some people brainwashed and dumbed down.
And this just doesn't happen on the right, the left is also guilty as hell for doing the same thing.
Yet another example of the CON$ervative hypocrisy in the first quote of my sig. CON$ play dumb so they can deny being aware of their fellow travelers like Richard Mellon Scaiffe who spent a tremendous amount of money with his Arkansas Project to destroy President Clinton.There is nothing like the blissful ignorance of CON$ervatism.I am unaware of ANY prominent rightwinger with any power who has absolutely set out to destroy somebody as Soros and many of the organizations he finances do. Yes there are some right wingnuts who grasp at any straw to keep conspiracy theories going, etc.--they were rampant during the Clinton administration in their attempts to demonize him--but I am aware of nobody with the clout or power of a George Soros who does stuff like that.
As Beck has said during this weeks series of 'exposes', "Don't believe anything because I tell it to you. Check it all out for yourself." That, in my opinion, is excellent advice re ANY talking head on the radio or TV even though Beck does some excellent research on digging some of this stuff out. I don't always agree with his conclusions. But I admire his ability to dig out the facts from which we can all draw conclusions.
There is nothing blissful about your denial of reality.
He's afraid of the Jooooooooooooooos!LOL I watched a few minutes of Becks show today.
What a distorting fear monger.
Ask, and ye shall receive:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
Disingenuous. There are legitimate arguments against Beck without you having to make shit up. His message on the subject is not to take anything he or anyone else say's at face value, but do your own research.
You must be INTENSE-ly smoking crack, because the link I put to the NY Times QUOTES Beck. Got that bunky? IT'S BECK'S OWN WORDS IN CORRECT CONTEXT. His quote appears in numerous legit newspapers, magazines.....if it were incorrect, Beck's bosses would have had their legal team demand a retraction, and Beck would have railed about being slandered from his media bully pulpit. To date, that hasn't happened.
The only thing disingenuous here is your pretending that Beck's quote doesn't exist. Don't get pissed at me because Beck played you for a fool and publically called you an idiot.....blame Beck for that.
He's afraid of the Jooooooooooooooos!LOL I watched a few minutes of Becks show today.
What a distorting fear monger.
Hey, when the scam is to control both sides of the debate both sides have to have moneybags to fund the manufactured debate.
Soros, Koch, what's the difference?
Take off your partisan blinders.
The truth shall either set you free or get you imprisoned on killed.
Come to think of it, maybe you're better off remaining ignorant.
At least then, you can imagine that you have a team that's on your side.
Hey, when the scam is to control both sides of the debate both sides have to have moneybags to fund the manufactured debate.
Soros, Koch, what's the difference?
Take off your partisan blinders.
The truth shall either set you free or get you imprisoned on killed.
Come to think of it, maybe you're better off remaining ignorant.
At least then, you can imagine that you have a team that's on your side.
Having looked into the Koch boys and Soros, I can tell you the difference - as I see it - is that the Koch boys have not destroyed the economies of countries just to make money. Soros did that.... more than once.