Some stupid air head liberal girl marries hippy murderer Charles Manson.

[ChrisL]

Save your histrionics and hyperbole...

How many people did manson personally kill?

Go ahead....It's not a hard question.

As has been explained. It's the same if you planned a robbery, and your buddy pulls out a gun and kills the victim. YOU will also be charged with murder because it happened during the commission of a crime. Do you get it yet? This is not anything new, unusual, nor is it rocket science buddy. What the hell is wrong with you?

I wonder how many Jews hitler actually killed? None, from the logic that is being used here.

I wonder why you want to change the subject.

originally I was just making a peripheral point that manson didn't kill anyone...but now we're talking about jews and hitler and geez...ANYthing but the fact that manson didn't kill anyone.

At this point everyone who cared checked for themselves and know what I said was true...It's like pavlov's dog with some topics...you've been trained to react a certain way...all good though. Point made.

He's in jail for conspiracy to commit murder/murder, just like anyone else would be. Duh. What the hell do you keep whining about? Do you have a problem with Charlie Manson's prison sentence or something? He didn't just "tell" someone to commit a murder. He was actively involved in the planning, etc.

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

 

[Rotagilla]

My question was rhetorical and it very much relates to your comments about Manson. You tell me how it relates.

It doesn't. It's a distraction.

How many Jews did hitler actually kill? Any?

I don't know. according to the holocau$t theories he was responsible for millions..or is it billions?...It changes every few years. oy vey

 

[Rotagilla]

As has been explained. It's the same if you planned a robbery, and your buddy pulls out a gun and kills the victim. YOU will also be charged with murder because it happened during the commission of a crime. Do you get it yet? This is not anything new, unusual, nor is it rocket science buddy. What the hell is wrong with you?

I wonder how many Jews hitler actually killed? None, from the logic that is being used here.

I wonder why you want to change the subject.

originally I was just making a peripheral point that manson didn't kill anyone...but now we're talking about jews and hitler and geez...ANYthing but the fact that manson didn't kill anyone.

At this point everyone who cared checked for themselves and know what I said was true...It's like pavlov's dog with some topics...you've been trained to react a certain way...all good though. Point made.

He's in jail for conspiracy to commit murder/murder, just like anyone else would be. Duh. What the hell do you keep whining about? Do you have a problem with Charlie Manson's prison sentence or something? He didn't just "tell" someone to commit a murder. He was actively involved in the planning, etc.

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

 

[ChrisL]

I wonder how many Jews hitler actually killed? None, from the logic that is being used here.

I wonder why you want to change the subject.

originally I was just making a peripheral point that manson didn't kill anyone...but now we're talking about jews and hitler and geez...ANYthing but the fact that manson didn't kill anyone.

At this point everyone who cared checked for themselves and know what I said was true...It's like pavlov's dog with some topics...you've been trained to react a certain way...all good though. Point made.

He's in jail for conspiracy to commit murder/murder, just like anyone else would be. Duh. What the hell do you keep whining about? Do you have a problem with Charlie Manson's prison sentence or something? He didn't just "tell" someone to commit a murder. He was actively involved in the planning, etc.

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess
you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

 

[Rotagilla]

I wonder why you want to change the subject.

originally I was just making a peripheral point that manson didn't kill anyone...but now we're talking about jews and hitler and geez...ANYthing but the fact that manson didn't kill anyone.

At this point everyone who cared checked for themselves and know what I said was true...It's like pavlov's dog with some topics...you've been trained to react a certain way...all good though. Point made.

He's in jail for conspiracy to commit murder/murder, just like anyone else would be. Duh. What the hell do you keep whining about? Do you have a problem with Charlie Manson's prison sentence or something? He didn't just "tell" someone to commit a murder. He was actively involved in the planning, etc.

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess
you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

 

[ChrisL]

No one wants their group that they identify with to be associated with Hitler, or Manson, or the KKK.

I'm sure there are others, but you get the point.

Who is doing that? This woman isn't a murderer. She's just dumb.

 

[ChrisL]

Really? You don't understand? I think you're being disingenuous.

I think it's the same reason why people get upset when told that the KKK votes Republican.

No, I don't. If they DO vote republican, then it's just a fact. Nothing to get upset over.

 

[ChrisL]

He's in jail for conspiracy to commit murder/murder, just like anyone else would be. Duh. What the hell do you keep whining about? Do you have a problem with Charlie Manson's prison sentence or something? He didn't just "tell" someone to commit a murder. He was actively involved in the planning, etc.

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess
you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

 

[Rotagilla]

I'm not whining. Why do you try to misconstrue?

He didn't personally murder anyone. That's just a simple fact. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess
you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

 

[ChrisL]

Yes you are whining. Now, it's already been explained to you a number of times that conspiracy to commit murder is also illegal. If you don't understand, I'm not going to waste my entire morning trying to educate you. I guess
you can just be sad for Charlie, or maybe you can be one of those who is working for him to be released from jail. Go start your letter writing campaign, because I can't help you.

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

Shut up, will you? Nobody cares.

 

[DriftingSand]

And no conjugal visits. She claims the marriage is just so she can be privy to information reserved for next of kin. Yup, crazy as a loon.

By the way, if anyone wants to send a wedding gift, I hear they are registered at Blood Bath and Beyond.

Wonder if she has her book deal lined up yet.

 

[Rotagilla]

I said he didn't murder anyone.
That is a fact.
save all your equivocating and grandstanding.

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

Shut up, will you? Nobody cares.

apparently you do. intensely.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh really? Is that what I'm doing because I thought I was telling an annoying poster to screw off, in so many words.

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

Shut up, will you? Nobody cares.

apparently you do. intensely.

No I really don't. I was actually having more fun making fun of the hippy girl, but I didn't want to be rude and just ignore a poster who was addressing me. So basically, I'm just humoring you. If it meant anything to me at all, I would be googling to prove you wrong, but it just doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less about Charlie Manson to be honest, and I never think about him or his case.

 

[mudwhistle]

CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) — Mass murderer Charles Manson plans to marry a 26-year-old woman who left her Midwestern home and spent the past nine years trying to help exonerate him.


Afton Elaine Burton, the raven-haired bride-to-be, said she loves the man convicted in the notorious murders of seven people, including pregnant actress Sharon Tate.

No date has been set but a wedding coordinator has been assigned by the prison to handle the nuptials, and the couple has until early February to get married before they would have to reapply.

The prospective bride and groom have near-matching carvings on their foreheads. Hers is an "X'' and his is an "X'' that was turned into a swastika after he carved it during his trial to show he was "X'ed out of society."

The Kings County marriage license, viewed Monday by The Associated Press, was issued Nov. 7 for the 80-year-old Manson and Burton, who lives in Corcoran — the site of the prison — and maintains several websites advocating his innocence.

Burton, who goes by the name "Star," told the AP that she and Manson will be married next month.

"Y'all can know that it's true," she said. "It's going to happen."

"I love him," she added. "I'm with him. There's all kinds of things."

However, as a life prisoner with no parole date, Manson is not entitled to family visits, a euphemism for conjugal visits.

So why would Burton marry him under those conditions?

She said she is interested in working on his case, and marrying him would allow her to get information not available to non-relatives.

"There's certain things next of kin can do," she said without elaborating.

Burton gave an interview a year ago to Rolling Stone magazine in which she said she and Manson planned to marry. But Manson, who became notorious in 1969 as the leader of a roving "family" of young killers, was less certain about tying the knot.

AP Exclusive Charles Manson gets marriage license - Yahoo News

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Just when you thought you could not possibly hate liberals more........

I heard she was a member of the Tea Party?

And probably a terrorist......

 

[Rotagilla]

It's evident that you "think" many things that are incorrect.

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

Shut up, will you? Nobody cares.

apparently you do. intensely.

No I really don't. I was actually having more fun making fun of the hippy girl, but I didn't want to be rude and just ignore a poster who was addressing me. So basically, I'm just humoring you. If it meant anything to me at all, I would be googling to prove you wrong,

ahhh.there's the rub..you know good and well what I said was accurate and you can't "prove me wrong"..so now you want to feign indifference.

but it just doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less about Charlie Manson to be honest, and I never think about him or his case.

you care enough to deny the fact I presented.
All good...Point made. I'm done with you.

 

[ChrisL]

It's evident that you don't "think" at all.

So how many people did manson personally murder?

We all know the answer is zero..I made a simple, factual comment and wound you up pretty tight.
pavlov was right.

Shut up, will you? Nobody cares.

apparently you do. intensely.

No I really don't. I was actually having more fun making fun of the hippy girl, but I didn't want to be rude and just ignore a poster who was addressing me. So basically, I'm just humoring you. If it meant anything to me at all, I would be googling to prove you wrong,

ahhh.there's the rub..you know good and well what I said was accurate and you can't "prove me wrong"..so now you want to feign indifference.

but it just doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less about Charlie Manson to be honest, and I never think about him or his case.

you care enough to deny the fact I presented.
All good...Point made. I'm done with you.

Ha-ha! I just posted this on one of the music threads. Yes, indifference is a good word.

 

[auditor0007]

So it is a bad thing to dissuade people from smoking cigarettes, a product that cigarette companies have lied to the public about for decades? BTW, the real reasoning behind the high cigarette taxes is not to stop those who already smoke; it is to keep young people from starting, and guess what? It is working.

I have no problem trying to keep people from smoking. But taxation should only be used to fund the gov't, not for social engineering.

So how do you suggest we keep people from smoking? I smoked for 30 years. The cigarette companies were allowed to lie to me and every other smoker about the effects of smoking. They used advertising to lure people into smoking by making it look glamorous, and by directly lying when they knew they were lying. While everyone dies eventually, the cigarette companies have been complicit in seeing to it that hundreds of millions of people have died early deaths, with many suffering greatly the final years of their life. In fact, my sister in law just died a couple of weeks ago from lung cancer. She suffered with COPD and emphysema for the past ten years. She was 47 when she died.

Sorry to hear that, but unless you started smoking before they put warning labels on the cigarettes by the surgeon general, then yes, you are responsible for whatever you have decided to take into your own body.

Kids get addicted to nicotine before they are even legally permitted to purchase cigarettes. Making cigarettes excessively expensive prevents many young kids from starting, because the cost is just not worth it to them. In the 70's, when I started smoking, approximately 40% of Americans smoked. Today it is down to 18%. The reason behind this great drop in the smoking rate is based on many factors, one being that cigarette prices have gone up so much. When I started smoking, I was making $5.00 per hour and a pack of cigarettes cost $.75. I could pay for a week's worth of smokes with one hour of work. Today, most kids make around $7.00 per hour, and in many states a pack of cigarettes is close to $7.00, so a kid today has to work 7 hours to pay for a week's worth of smokes, or almost one full day's pay.

Look, if kids and people want to smoke, they are going to find a way to do it. The best bet is that responsible behavior (and the risks of smoking, etc.) is taught at HOME. We don't TAX people into behaving. I am completely against that.

I would imagine that if we did it your way and made cigarettes $1.50 per pack again, we could educate as much as we wanted, but the smoking rate would double. Then we could deal with the additional stress put on our already ridiculously overpriced healthcare system.

 

[ChrisL]

I have no problem trying to keep people from smoking. But taxation should only be used to fund the gov't, not for social engineering.

So how do you suggest we keep people from smoking? I smoked for 30 years. The cigarette companies were allowed to lie to me and every other smoker about the effects of smoking. They used advertising to lure people into smoking by making it look glamorous, and by directly lying when they knew they were lying. While everyone dies eventually, the cigarette companies have been complicit in seeing to it that hundreds of millions of people have died early deaths, with many suffering greatly the final years of their life. In fact, my sister in law just died a couple of weeks ago from lung cancer. She suffered with COPD and emphysema for the past ten years. She was 47 when she died.

Sorry to hear that, but unless you started smoking before they put warning labels on the cigarettes by the surgeon general, then yes, you are responsible for whatever you have decided to take into your own body.

Kids get addicted to nicotine before they are even legally permitted to purchase cigarettes. Making cigarettes excessively expensive prevents many young kids from starting, because the cost is just not worth it to them. In the 70's, when I started smoking, approximately 40% of Americans smoked. Today it is down to 18%. The reason behind this great drop in the smoking rate is based on many factors, one being that cigarette prices have gone up so much. When I started smoking, I was making $5.00 per hour and a pack of cigarettes cost $.75. I could pay for a week's worth of smokes with one hour of work. Today, most kids make around $7.00 per hour, and in many states a pack of cigarettes is close to $7.00, so a kid today has to work 7 hours to pay for a week's worth of smokes, or almost one full day's pay.

Look, if kids and people want to smoke, they are going to find a way to do it. The best bet is that responsible behavior (and the risks of smoking, etc.) is taught at HOME. We don't TAX people into behaving. I am completely against that.

I would imagine that if we did it your way and made cigarettes $1.50 per pack again, we could educate as much as we wanted, but the smoking rate would double. Then we could deal with the additional stress put on our already ridiculously overpriced healthcare system.

You think that people just smoke because they can afford to? Lol! Well, I've never smoked before, and I could have afforded to if I wanted to. Also, did more people die from smoking in, say the 1950s, (or whenever it is) before they made laws about smoking and started taxing them so much?