So who is really at fault for this financial melt-down

[sealybobo]

Please list the party affiliation of all the CEOs who took the cash and walked.

Here you go again, asking for me to go waste my fucking time to prove something for you.

Vote for McCain for all I care. He's going to lose and now I don't even get upset at your stupidity.

You prove to me you are rich. If not, you are . Need proof? Why don't I call off work today and get right on that.

 

[sealybobo]

Please list the party affiliation of all the CEOs who took the cash and walked.

And if CEO's are voting for Obama, that means they don't even like the direction the GOP are taking us. Because their companies are going overseas, or have to compete with foreign imports, or their companies might be purchased by foreigners and the next thing you know, the CEO is being replaced by a dot head or slant eye.

That was horrible of me. I should refer to asians like John McCain refers to them. GOOKS. You want a commander and chief that refers to Chinese and Japanese people as gooks?

 

[Skull Pilot]

And isn't it funny that one day you guys suggest "everyone" shares responsibility but then the next day you say Carter and Clinton had something to do with it.

They played their part and to completely dismiss that and say this whole mess is only 8 years in the making is naive to the point of stupidity.

This is reminding me of when you guys went after Clinton. Half of you were saying she was the most liberal person on the planet, but then when she was running against Obama, HE was the most liberal.

Based on what?

Um his voting record.

So you guys don't eveR want to take all the blame but you sure do like to place blame. Hell, you don't even care if your accusations make sense. Because most people will not look into it to realize how silly blaming Carter or Clinton is. You are a perfect example.

broken record alert: this was a failing of government at ALL levels and both parties played their roles

I say the GOP did this on purpose. Just like they lied us into Iraq so a few defense buddies could milk the treasury for billions, the CEO's purposely trashed their companies, walked away with billions and KNEW Bush would bail them out. Sorry, WE would bail them out. Suckers.

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[NO!bama08]

"All I need to read here to discount your arguement, is to know your source: FOX NEWS.

Fox is shameless."

The problem is detailed in a New York Times article i posted about a couple of days ago. It's from 1999 when the Clinton admin started the ball rolling on this problem. The Clinton admistration is to blame, pure and simple. Pure socialism. You want more of this? Vote Obama, that's what you'll get, a socialist president with a wife who hates America. You liberals can make all the cutesie "Palin" jokes you want, electing a socialist president is a serious mistake.

As for Fox, i guarantee you will see more of both sides on Fox than you will ever see on the Communist News Network..... unless biased bullshit is what you're into. Makes you feel better? lol.

 

[sealybobo]

They played their part and to completely dismiss that and say this whole mess is only 8 years in the making is naive to the point of stupidity.
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That's funny, because I just listened to the kids in Congress discussing who or what is to blame. I heard Predatory Lenders from the Neocons and I hear Deregulations from the Democrats.

None of your boys dare suggest it is Clinton or Carter's fault because they don't want to discuss facts.

This bullshit about Clinton and Carter is mearly a wisper campaign. Has no legs. Much like your Aires, Wright or other lies you put out about Obama being a muslim. But you know it doesn't have to be true. Everything you believe is a lie, so what is a fact to you? Nothing. Just a speed bump.

 

[Skull Pilot]

That's funny, because I just listened to the kids in Congress discussing who or what is to blame. I heard Predatory Lenders from the Neocons and I hear Deregulations from the Democrats.

Naiveté. You actually think the pols are going to tell you who is at fault? I post essays from economists that explain the whole thing quite well. Did you even bother to read the essay? Or do you want to cling to your "theory" that it is all the republicans fault and you don't have to look back any further than the day GW was sworn in? Boy you're bitter and have antipathy.

None of your boys dare suggest it is Clinton or Carter's fault because they don't want to discuss facts.

No pol is a "boy " of mine and isn't "boy" a racist term?

This bullshit about Clinton and Carter is mearly a wisper campaign. Has no legs. Much like your Aires, Wright or other lies you put out about Obama being a muslim. But you know it doesn't have to be true. Everything you believe is a lie, so what is a fact to you? Nothing. Just a speed bump.

Again, i have posted intelligent essays and articles from economists what does that have to do with BHO?

 

[sealybobo]

Naiveté.

No pol is a "boy " of mine and isn't "boy" a racist term?

Again, i have posted intelligent essays and articles from economists what does that have to do with BHO?

I'm sick of reading your bullshit. I'm done. Now I just call it for what it is.

You can't post bullshit for months and expect I'm going to look at your 100th piece of garbage.

I'm done listening to people who defended bush.

Oh you don't defend him anymore? Distancing yourself from your worthless pathetic leader? The guys that will be controlling McCain are the same guys that contol Bush. We need to get them out of Washington!

Unless you think McCain is "different".

 

[del]

I'm sick of reading your bullshit. I'm done. Now I just call it for what it is.

You can't post bullshit for months and expect I'm going to look at your 100th piece of garbage.

I'm done listening to people who defended bush.

Oh you don't defend him anymore? Distancing yourself from your worthless pathetic leader? The guys that will be controlling McCain are the same guys that contol Bush. We need to get them out of Washington!

Unless you think McCain is "different".

McCain is every bit as different as Obama.

 

[sealybobo]

McCain is every bit as different as Obama.

91% same as Bush, 9% maverick.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I'm sick of reading your bullshit. I'm done. Now I just call it for what it is.

You can't post bullshit for months and expect I'm going to look at your 100th piece of garbage.

I'm done listening to people who defended bush.

Oh you don't defend him anymore? Distancing yourself from your worthless pathetic leader? The guys that will be controlling McCain are the same guys that contol Bush. We need to get them out of Washington!

Unless you think McCain is "different".

Please boo boo, find me one post just one where i have "defended" GW

Let's see I've called him a moron, I have never voted for him yet you think I am defending him. And i am not voting for JM.

Wow you ought to check into rehab for a Kool-Aid addiction.

 

[sealybobo]

Please boo boo, find me one post just one where i have "defended" GW

Let's see I've called him a moron, I have never voted for him yet you think I am defending him.

Wow you ought to check into rehab for a Kool-Aid addiction.

Remember Skull, you aren't the only fool I'm addressing when I reply to you. I'm talking to you and others like you. So what you didn't vote for Bush. Actually, that's cool. But you are voting for McCain and that means you are voting to keep Chaney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, all the Bush appointees tucked right into place for the next 4 years and that makes you a fool.

Perfect example. Everyone knows McCain didn't pick that religous right wing neo con Palin. McCain wanted Liebermann, but his bosses told him no.

In football terms. McCain is just the coach of the team. There is still a General Manager and owner above him pulling his strings.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Remember Skull, you aren't the only fool I'm addressing when I reply to you. I'm talking to you and others like you. So what you didn't vote for Bush. Actually, that's cool. But you are voting for McCain and that means you are voting to keep Chaney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, all the Bush appointees tucked right into place for the next 4 years and that makes you a fool.

Perfect example. Everyone knows McCain didn't pick that religous right wing neo con Palin. McCain wanted Liebermann, but his bosses told him no.

In football terms. McCain is just the coach of the team. There is still a General Manager and owner above him pulling his strings.

Jesus Christ you moron. I am NOT voting for McCain. You are so caught up in your messiah worship that you don't remember anything I have said. For Christ' sake in another thread I traded posts with you on how since JM voted for that bail out monstrosity that i will NOT be voting for him.

But if it makes it easier for your little mind to lump everyone who isn't voting for BHO into a neat little republican ball so you can understand it better, you just go ahead and do that but please be quiet when the grown ups are talking OK?

 

[bush lover]

Jimmy Carter, and his crazy brother, carry the blame for this, and everybody knows that. Our President will have to use his emergency powers to declare martial law, very soon. Thanks Jimmy.

 

[sealybobo]

Jesus Christ you moron. I am NOT voting for McCain. You are so caught up in your messiah worship that you don't remember anything I have said. For Christ' sake in another thread I traded posts with you on how since JM voted for that bail out monstrosity that i will NOT be voting for him.

But if it makes it easier for your little mind to lump everyone who isn't voting for BHO into a neat little republican ball so you can understand it better, you just go ahead and do that but please be quiet when the grown ups are talking OK?

OOPS. SORRY, I GET RILED UP. OBAMA MUST BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT. YOU DO KNOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO CHOICES. A THIRD CHOICE WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. YOU WON'T LIKE THAT CHOICE ANY BETTER. OR THAT THIRD CHOICE WILL COST THE BETTER CANDIDATE. I DON'T LIKE 3RD PARTIES UNTIL THEY MAKE THE SYSTEM FAIR FOR 3 PARTIES.

AND YOU HAVE BARR AND NADER. THEY WON'T WIN DICK. SO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY DOESN'T EVEN WANT A 3RD PARTY.

ANYWAYS, OBAMA IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

 

[Skull Pilot]

OOPS. SORRY, I GET RILED UP. OBAMA MUST BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT. YOU DO KNOW WE ONLY HAVE TWO CHOICES. A THIRD CHOICE WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. YOU WON'T LIKE THAT CHOICE ANY BETTER. OR THAT THIRD CHOICE WILL COST THE BETTER CANDIDATE. I DON'T LIKE 3RD PARTIES UNTIL THEY MAKE THE SYSTEM FAIR FOR 3 PARTIES.

AND YOU HAVE BARR AND NADER. THEY WON'T WIN DICK. SO YOU SEE THE COUNTRY DOESN'T EVEN WANT A 3RD PARTY.

ANYWAYS, OBAMA IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

At least I won't be betraying my principle by voting for JM or BHO. and in the end, that is more important to me.

 

[sealybobo]

At least I won't be betraying my principle by voting for JM or BHO. and in the end, that is more important to me.

Really? What do you do for a living? Let me paint a picture for you based on the possible outcome that McCain wins. Tell me what you do and how much you make.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Really? What do you do for a living? Let me paint a picture for you based on the possible outcome that McCain wins. Tell me what you do and how much you make.

it doesn't matter what I do because I don't expect the government to solve my problems. I work for myself, no one is my boss and i do whatever it takes for my business to do well

because i work for myself and BTW employ 10 people, i want the government to make it easier for me to pay my employees better and to offer more benefits and that can happen if and only if the fucking government taxes me less.

but I don't expect you to understand that there are people who don't want the government to interfere in their lives as you so clearly do.

 

[Truthmatters]

The SEC has realsed that they were partly responsible for the mess because they allowed the Industry to police its self.

That is right folks.

The guy Bush appointed to police the industry made a new policy that involved them monitoring themselfs for infractions of the laws.

It worked really well huh?

 

[sealybobo]

you first

I'm in sales. I make $70ish, give or take $5K. I sell to Accountants and CPA's. My industry is pretty safe from GOPanomics. In other words, Lawyers and accountants still need the stuff I'm selling. That doesn't mean the company hired more salespeople for smaller salaries and now I'm competing with more people within my company. My company isn't offering raises to keep up with inflation. I see them raising quotas when the economy sucks.

Actually, my boss was wrong. He said we aren't affected. EVERYONE is affected. Lots of companies have told me they are cutting back on what they buy from us. They don't buy the little extras they used to buy.

So when you add up that the company has raised our goals and companies are cutting back, that means no bonus' this year. I've made my goals 9 out of 10 months, but last year I MAXED OUT my goals.

Blabla. I'm not going to bore you, but I see EVERYONE is being affected by this economy.

If you are a manager, I can just explain to you how they might get rid of you. They might replace you with a foreigner. They might merge and drop you.

If you are a $250K a year guy, I can tell you too that your job may not be around forever. If companies want to max profits, and you aren't indespensable, your job might be in jeopordy too.

Do you do manual labor? I have a buddy who lays marble or something like that. He says most of the guys on his crew are illegals. Do you do manual labor?

Archetect? Their jobs are being outsourced too.

Hey, better you stay home than vote for McCain.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I'm in sales. I make $70ish, give or take $5K. I sell to Accountants and CPA's. My industry is pretty safe from GOPanomics. In other words, Lawyers and accountants still need the stuff I'm selling. That doesn't mean the company hired more salespeople for smaller salaries and now I'm competing with more people within my company. My company isn't offering raises to keep up with inflation. I see them raising quotas when the economy sucks.

Actually, my boss was wrong. He said we aren't affected. EVERYONE is affected. Lots of companies have told me they are cutting back on what they buy from us. They don't buy the little extras they used to buy.

So when you add up that the company has raised our goals and companies are cutting back, that means no bonus' this year. I've made my goals 9 out of 10 months, but last year I MAXED OUT my goals.

Blabla. I'm not going to bore you, but I see EVERYONE is being affected by this economy.

If you are a manager, I can just explain to you how they might get rid of you. They might replace you with a foreigner. They might merge and drop you.

If you are a $250K a year guy, I can tell you too that your job may not be around forever. If companies want to max profits, and you aren't indespensable, your job might be in jeopordy too.

Do you do manual labor? I have a buddy who lays marble or something like that. He says most of the guys on his crew are illegals. Do you do manual labor?

Archetect? Their jobs are being outsourced too.

Hey, better you stay home than vote for McCain.

I am a self employed small business owner that employs 10 people in a service industry (medical in nature) We've been in business for almost 2 years and have managed to run a profit since day one.

Again the difference between us is that i work for myself and want the government out of my life because i can solve my problems better than the government can. To me that means lower taxes, smaller federal government and more power to the states where my vote actually means something.