So what should Obama have done?

[jag877]

Every day this goes on without a commitment to using the best technology to capture the oil,
the more expensive it will be for everyone, and if Obama thinks that blaming BP will direct criticism in that direction, he is wrong. Conducting a legal witch hunt in this situation is also wrong I believe. It will just force anyone with potential liability to refrain from trying to do anything else. This leak may go on for years. The priority is to use the most sensible and productive method NOW to start gathering up the oil. they may need supertankers in place
until the well runs dry, but if sucking up this oil from the water isn't started now, it will ruin
coastlines for years to come, to say nothing of the air pollution, which is already occurring.

 

[sangha]

Every day this goes on without a commitment to using the best technology to capture the oil,
the more expensive it will be for everyone, and if Obama thinks that blaming BP will direct criticism in that direction, he is wrong. Conducting a legal witch hunt in this situation is also wrong I believe. It will just force anyone with potential liability to refrain from trying to do anything else. This leak may go on for years. The priority is to use the most sensible and productive method NOW to start gathering up the oil. they may need supertankers in place
until the well runs dry, but if sucking up this oil from the water isn't started now, it will ruin
coastlines for years to come, to say nothing of the air pollution, which is already occurring.

Again, the feds have already been assembling ship to get the oil out of the water. They are even training volunteers how to use their own boats to skim oil out of the water.

And it's an "investigation" not a "witch hunt". You're inability to see that it's been centuries since we've had witch hunts is a sign of your rabid partisanship. Like the other haters, you don't know what you're talking. You're sure Obama failed to do something, but all you can think of is things that Obama has done.

Go back to whining about your other mythical fears, like death panels and socialism

 

[Valerie]

Factbox: BP preparing to seal cap on leak

CONTAINMENT CAP

* BP placed the cap with a seal on the pipe remnant jutting from the top of a lower marine riser package, or LMRP, which sits atop a failed blowout preventer at the wellhead.

* Oil and gas continued to gush out from under the cap because vents are open as BP pumps nitrogen and methanol into the cap through a pipe attached to a drillship a mile above at the ocean's surface.

* The chemicals are intended to stabilize pressures and combat cold temperatures as the pumping action helps expel seawater from the cap.

* The aim is to prevent seawater from mixing with the gas, which can form ice-like hydrates and block the eventual flow of oil and gas to the drillship.

* About 1,000 barrels a day of oil was flowing to the drillship as of early Friday. If the nitrogen lowers pressure as intended, the vents will close, the flow to the drillship will increase, and the amount of oil gushing from the cap should decrease.

* U.S. government scientists estimated that the leak's flow could increase by 20 percent before the seal operates as intended. They are analyzing data to determine if that estimate turned out to be right.

* BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said on Friday that the cap could corral 90-plus percent of the oil. That is higher than previous estimates of about 80 percent.

* Oil that is channeled to the drillship will be stored for later processing at a refinery ashore; the natural gas will be flared.

* The cap effort is, in theory, similar to a much larger 98-ton containment dome that placed at the end of the broken pipe in early May. That dome also was connected to the ship by pipe and was intended to corral and channel oil and gas to the surface.

* That containment dome failed because too much seawater got inside and formed hydrates that blocked oil from flowing up to the drillship.

BACKUP CAPS/DOMES

* If the first containment cap doesn't work, BP has several backup caps with and without seals of varying sizes at the seabed, on the way or being manufactured.

ENHANCEMENT TO LMRP CAP PLAN

* BP will use seabed equipment installed for a previous failed effort to block the leak known as "top kill" to enhance the containment cap system.

* The top kill involved pumping heavy drilling fluid into the failed blowout preventer to try to smother the leak. Mud was pumped from a ship to a service rig, down to a manifold, which routed the fluid to "choke and kill" hoses connected to the blowout preventer.

* BP will try to reverse direction and pull oil and gas from the blowout preventer through the hoses and manifold to a vessel at the water's surface.

*That system is expected to be ready by mid-June.

HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS

* BP also is planning a system to allow the drillship connected by pipe to the containment cap to suspend operations and move if a hurricane approaches.

* BP will install a pipe that extends about 300 feet below the drillship. Then a hose would connect the pipe to the containment cap.

* Described by BP as a "long-term option," the system would allow BP to disconnect the hose from the pipe and move the ship out of a storm's path, then return when weather calms to resume the operation.

* BP has not yet worked out how it would cap or corral the leak while the storm passes and the hose is disconnected from the pipe.

* The system is expected to be implemented in late June or early July.

* The Atlantic hurricane season began June 1.

THE RELIEF WELLS

* Drilling continued on a relief well begun May 2 intended to intercept and cap the leaking well beneath the seabed. Drilling was been suspended last week on a second relief well begun May 16 while the top kill was in progress, but that rig resumed drilling on Sunday. Both wells are expected to be finished in August.

BLOWUP PREVENTER:

* BP suspended drilling of the second well so that rig's blowout preventer could be on standby to place atop the failed blowout preventer and plug the well if the containment cap system fails. BP said June 1 that option has been sidelined "at the moment" with the focus on the cap and enhancement because the company lacks sufficient information about the state of the failed blowout preventer.

Factbox: BP preparing to seal cap on leak | Reuters

Seems to me he has at least been making sure BP does everything possible...




But then again Obama should have dived down there and fixed it himself, if he really loved America!


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[ConHog]

Every day this goes on without a commitment to using the best technology to capture the oil,
the more expensive it will be for everyone, and if Obama thinks that blaming BP will direct criticism in that direction, he is wrong. Conducting a legal witch hunt in this situation is also wrong I believe. It will just force anyone with potential liability to refrain from trying to do anything else. This leak may go on for years. The priority is to use the most sensible and productive method NOW to start gathering up the oil. they may need supertankers in place
until the well runs dry, but if sucking up this oil from the water isn't started now, it will ruin
coastlines for years to come, to say nothing of the air pollution, which is already occurring.

Again, the feds have already been assembling ship to get the oil out of the water. They are even training volunteers how to use their own boats to skim oil out of the water.

And it's an "investigation" not a "witch hunt". You're inability to see that it's been centuries since we've had witch hunts is a sign of your rabid partisanship. Like the other haters, you don't know what you're talking. You're sure Obama failed to do something, but all you can think of is things that Obama has done.

Go back to whining about your other mythical fears, like death panels and socialism

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

 

[sangha]

Every day this goes on without a commitment to using the best technology to capture the oil,
the more expensive it will be for everyone, and if Obama thinks that blaming BP will direct criticism in that direction, he is wrong. Conducting a legal witch hunt in this situation is also wrong I believe. It will just force anyone with potential liability to refrain from trying to do anything else. This leak may go on for years. The priority is to use the most sensible and productive method NOW to start gathering up the oil. they may need supertankers in place
until the well runs dry, but if sucking up this oil from the water isn't started now, it will ruin
coastlines for years to come, to say nothing of the air pollution, which is already occurring.

Again, the feds have already been assembling ship to get the oil out of the water. They are even training volunteers how to use their own boats to skim oil out of the water.

And it's an "investigation" not a "witch hunt". You're inability to see that it's been centuries since we've had witch hunts is a sign of your rabid partisanship. Like the other haters, you don't know what you're talking. You're sure Obama failed to do something, but all you can think of is things that Obama has done.

Go back to whining about your other mythical fears, like death panels and socialism

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

 

[Meister]

Again, the feds have already been assembling ship to get the oil out of the water. They are even training volunteers how to use their own boats to skim oil out of the water.

And it's an "investigation" not a "witch hunt". You're inability to see that it's been centuries since we've had witch hunts is a sign of your rabid partisanship. Like the other haters, you don't know what you're talking. You're sure Obama failed to do something, but all you can think of is things that Obama has done.

Go back to whining about your other mythical fears, like death panels and socialism

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I'm assuming that YOU DO have an issue with the adminstration trying to bribe Sestek, also?
I too, am against crime at any level.

 

[sangha]

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I'm assuming that YOU DO have an issue with the adminstration trying to bribe Sestek, also?
I too, am against crime at any level.

I see another wingnut who doesn't understand the law. (Bribes require an actual bribe. An offer to work for free is not a bribe)

But hey, knock yourself out pursuing this. I love to watch conservative dogs chase their tail

 

[Meister]

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I'm assuming that YOU DO have an issue with the adminstration trying to bribe Sestek, also?
I too, am against crime at any level.

I see another wingnut who doesn't understand the law. (Bribes require an actual bribe. An offer to work for free is not a bribe)

But hey, knock yourself out pursuing this. I love to watch conservative dogs chase their tail

You have just shown what a partisan hack you are, and how things are different with "your party". Drink another cup of kool-aid, sonny. Looks like your chasing your own tail.

 

[Meister]

18 USC Section 600:

Sec. 600. Promise of employment or other benefit for political
activity




Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

There is nothing that says it has to be a paying job. I see an epic fail on your part Sangha

 

[ConHog]

Again, the feds have already been assembling ship to get the oil out of the water. They are even training volunteers how to use their own boats to skim oil out of the water.

And it's an "investigation" not a "witch hunt". You're inability to see that it's been centuries since we've had witch hunts is a sign of your rabid partisanship. Like the other haters, you don't know what you're talking. You're sure Obama failed to do something, but all you can think of is things that Obama has done.

Go back to whining about your other mythical fears, like death panels and socialism

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I've been on this board less than a full 24 hours and you've already proven to me that you are the stupidest person to ever manage to draw a breath.

Where did I say they should NEVER assess legal blame or decide if someone was criminally negligent is this matter? Oh, that's right I didn't . Instead I said they should wait until after they get the leak stopped and the oil cleaned up THEN run any investigations necessary.

Oh, I've also never said anything about photo ops either, so nice try to deflect.

MORON

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He should offer a Senate seat to anyone with a solution

 

[American Horse]

Obama did zero

He should have mobilized the army Corp of engineers to assist, instead he went on another vacation - again.

What could they have done? They build bridges, dams, etc, They don't know about cleaning up oil

CLEAN UP THE OIL? How about stopping it?
The Corps of Engineers are collectively the foremost experts in hydrology and hydrological engineering. The problem in the gulf is mainly a combination of hydrocarbons (oil) and hydrology.

Had THEY been commissioned to examine the problem at its beginning (along with the Coast Guard) and asked to work with local authorities to find and evaluate the best localized solutions they might have encouraged the building of sand berms in the most advantageous locations. Anyone with experience in drainage and containment of water and contaminants understands how efficient berms and diversion structures can be to stop pollution before it is able to spread over large areas, becomes a disaster to the environment, and the clean-up becomes exponentially more costly and destructive. Instead, when Governor Jindal of Louisiana saw the potential, and asked for those kinds of measures the President handed it over to the EPA's environmentalists to evaluate. The stalled it because his proposal needed to be fully vetted for ecological effects.

Therefore the environment is threatened because the threat to the environment takes time to evaluate, and couldn’t be done before the landfall of the oil on Louisiana's shores, and now those of Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida.

The Corps of Engineers does much more than the things you mentioned. Besides being the best practical engineers in the world it is the foremost body in charge of designing and supervising the building of dikes all over the US. When a small geographical area is contaminated and threatens to expand to unaffected areas, the first prescription is to raise a dike around it to contain and control the affluent.

Raising sand berms along the beaches of Louisiana would have been inexpensive to raise and cheap to remove if and when they were no longer needed. The President did not have the imagination, nor the decisiveness to consult with the people who did have the imagination to let it be given a full and quick evaluation; the USA Corps of Engineers. Instead the Administration seems to be limited to bureaucratic inside the box thinking. They seem to be only capable of reliving the Katrina disaster, as if what worked there is all they have, vis-à-vis the US Coast Guard, and of course laying about with recriminations.

Come fall and winter, when vacationers can’t make their usual pilgrimage to Florida’s white sand beaches because they are covered with black sludge, they will tend to blame those responsible for failure to make timely decisions which would’ve prevented such a disaster. Two years later, they plus those who’ve lost their livelihoods will vent their frustration and anger in the general election. Florida with all its electoral votes will be crucial in that election.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Not given DWH safety awards?
Done the prescribed inspections?

 

[Rozman]

A far better question.How would the media have responded if Bush was in office when this happened.I doubt very much they would have been as hands off with him as they are with this President.

 

[ConHog]

What he Really should have done was never have ran for President in the first place. THis guy has no clue how to do the job.

If he had been hired as a CEO of a major corporation rather than elected President and performed his job in the first 18 months at the same level as this, the Board of Directors would have fired his incompetent ass by now.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I've been on this board less than a full 24 hours and you've already proven to me that you are the stupidest person to ever manage to draw a breath.

Where did I say they should NEVER assess legal blame or decide if someone was criminally negligent is this matter? Oh, that's right I didn't . Instead I said they should wait until after they get the leak stopped and the oil cleaned up THEN run any investigations necessary.

Oh, I've also never said anything about photo ops either, so nice try to deflect.

MORON

He is just one of many , he doesn't deserve any special distinction, he's just another progressive here to ,"Get his stupid on."

 

[sangha]

18 USC Section 600:

Sec. 600. Promise of employment or other benefit for political
activity




Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

There is nothing that says it has to be a paying job. I see an epic fail on your part Sangha

When will idiots like you learn to read. It says that the job must be "provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress"

The GOP puts out dumb arguments like this, and shmucks like you are too stupid to even read it to realize the GOP lied to you

 

[sangha]

Whatever you want to call it, it's stupid to be worried about assessing legal blame at this time, especially when BP is going on TV and saying "our mess we'll pay all valid claims."

It's nothing more than partisan politics and YOUR inability to admit that proves your partisanship.

I see we have another soft on crime conservative who thinks criminals should be allowed to commit crimes without interference. I bet you think "Society made BP do it"

And you've got no idea about what Obama didn't do. All you can think of is "more photo ops".

Nope, you're not too partisan

I've been on this board less than a full 24 hours and you've already proven to me that you are the stupidest person to ever manage to draw a breath.

Where did I say they should NEVER assess legal blame or decide if someone was criminally negligent is this matter? Oh, that's right I didn't . Instead I said they should wait until after they get the leak stopped and the oil cleaned up THEN run any investigations necessary.

You are full of shit. Justice delayed is justice denied, and you want to delay an investigation

There's a reason why when someone is killed, the police don't hold off investigating until they clean up the blood, you moron

 

[Vel]

18 USC Section 600:

Sec. 600. Promise of employment or other benefit for political
activity




Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment,
position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit,
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of
Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such
benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any
political activity or for the support of or opposition to any
candidate or any political party in connection with any general or
special election to any political office, or in connection with any
primary election or political convention or caucus held to select
candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this
title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

There is nothing that says it has to be a paying job. I see an epic fail on your part Sangha

When will idiots like you learn to read. It says that the job must be "provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress"

The GOP puts out dumb arguments like this, and shmucks like you are too stupid to even read it to realize the GOP lied to you

Hmmm.. You might want to read that again so you don't seem clueless.
Just sayin'

 

[sangha]

Obama did zero

He should have mobilized the army Corp of engineers to assist, instead he went on another vacation - again.

What could they have done? They build bridges, dams, etc, They don't know about cleaning up oil

CLEAN UP THE OIL? How about stopping it?
The Corps of Engineers are collectively the foremost experts in hydrology and hydrological engineering. The problem in the gulf is mainly a combination of hydrocarbons (oil) and hydrology.

Great! Another idiot

The Corps of Engineers don't have the deep sea equipment, nor the experience to use it

The Corps of Engineers does much more than the things you mentioned. Besides being the best practical engineers in the world it is the foremost body in charge of designing and supervising the building of dikes all over the US. When a small geographical area is contaminated and threatens to expand to unaffected areas, the first prescription is to raise a dike around it to contain and control the affluent.

What kind of stupidity makes you think they can build a berm around the Gulf of Mexico?

Besides, berms don't stop leaks, and berms don't cleanup any oil. They just move the oil down to the next beach, and the first storm that hits destroys them, leaving more ecological damage

The idea is to reduce the harm, not create a 2nd disaster