So the cops are being charged w murder....for medical negligence? Doctors kill 100k a year.

[bucs90]

There was a coroner at the autopsy. Don't you think he had some input in the manner of death? She didn't pull it out of thin air.

Yeah it was called a homicide. ..which doesnt always mean murder. Hoimicide is also used as medical negligence cases. Just means it wasnt a suicide or illness or accident.

They committed medical negligence. Not murder.

Bullshit -

Proof? The evidence presented points to medical negligence. Not murder.

 

[bucs90]

Freddie Gray Case What is depraved heart murder in charges against Baltimore police - CBS News

"In Maryland, depraved heart murder is "the killing of another person while acting with an extreme disregard for human life."

John Jay College of Justice Professor Delores Jones-Brown, the author of "Race, Crime and Punishment," told 48 Hours' Crimesider that the charge indicates an "extreme form of recklessness."

"You so disregarded the welfare and well-being of this person that we will treat it like a murder," she explained.

Scott Patterson, the State Attorney for Talbot County, Maryland, said that depraved heart murder is often used when the defendant caused a victim's death "without showing explicit intent to kill." He used the example of someone shooting a gun at cars: "The person may not have intended to kill anyone," but his behavior exhibits "an element of viciousness or disregard for human life."

According to jury instructions for the charge, in order to convict the defendant of depraved heart murder, the State must prove not just that the defendant's actions caused the death, but that "the defendant's conduct created a very high degree of risk to the life" of the victim, and that "the defendant, conscious of such risk, acted with extreme disregard of the life-endangering consequences."

WOW!!!! Considering police van drivers transport tens of thousands of thugs...many who flop around and scream like animals on a regular basis and demand medical care to delay the jail trip (plus hospitals have better food. This is a long used thug trick to get good food before jail).....and they never die during the trip....NO CHANCE the prosecution proves this.

This is pure kangaroo court fairness arrests.

 

[EverCurious]

Freddie Gray Case What is depraved heart murder in charges against Baltimore police - CBS News

"In Maryland, depraved heart murder is "the killing of another person while acting with an extreme disregard for human life."

John Jay College of Justice Professor Delores Jones-Brown, the author of "Race, Crime and Punishment," told 48 Hours' Crimesider that the charge indicates an "extreme form of recklessness."

"You so disregarded the welfare and well-being of this person that we will treat it like a murder," she explained.

Scott Patterson, the State Attorney for Talbot County, Maryland, said that depraved heart murder is often used when the defendant caused a victim's death "without showing explicit intent to kill." He used the example of someone shooting a gun at cars: "The person may not have intended to kill anyone," but his behavior exhibits "an element of viciousness or disregard for human life."

According to jury instructions for the charge, in order to convict the defendant of depraved heart murder, the State must prove not just that the defendant's actions caused the death, but that "the defendant's conduct created a very high degree of risk to the life" of the victim, and that "the defendant, conscious of such risk, acted with extreme disregard of the life-endangering consequences."

WOW!!!! Considering police van drivers transport tens of thousands of thugs...many who flop around and scream like animals on a regular basis and demand medical care to delay the jail trip (plus hospitals have better food. This is a long used thug trick to get good food before jail).....and they never die during the trip....NO CHANCE the prosecution proves this.

This is pure kangaroo court fairness arrests.

Yea I don't know how they're gonna stick it honestly. IF it happened with Gray in a standing and bent over position like the one reporter demonstrated... I think they're going to have a hell of a time proving that the officer jammed on the gas so hard it caused Gray to smash into the back of the van door with enough force to snap his neck. Unless there's some video of the driving officer beating his head against the back door of the van anyway... And if it turns out the prisoner in the van saying Gray was trying to hurt himself in a police brutality faux case, ANY chance of that happening is gone. Then there is the IF it's true that the seat belt policy had just been changed days before hand... this is a dead end case to appease the rioters and not much more than some officers being in trouble for pursuit without cause - which frankly given Baltimore's no loitering laws and Gray's history... Gonna be a tough case to stick for sure.

 

[Political Junky]

The cops violated the rule that states a prisoner must be secured in a seat belt .. Freddie wasn't, then they gave him a rough ride. Guilty as charged.

 

[EverCurious]

I've read a couple reports that if the suspect is "aggressive" and "represents a threat to the officers safety" they are not held to the seat belt policy. I'll see if I can find the article.

EDIT: Freddie Gray death Baltimore police prisoner transport under scrutiny - World - CBC News
This is not one of the articles I'd originally read, but it appears it might support the angle the other article I read was going for. The policy states "seat belts or other authorized restraining devices." Also says that the other prisoner in the van told them Gray was moving around, kicking, and making noises up until the van arrived at the station, and also that the driver was not giving them a rough ride. Maybe something happened when they unloaded him?


"It is police policy that all arrestees must be buckled in during transport. The policy, updated just nine days before Freddie Gray was injured, states "all passengers, regardless of age and location, shall be restrained by seat belts or other authorized restraining devices."

An attorney representing one of the six officers involved in Gray's arrest said it can sometimes be difficult, or even dangerous, for officers to belt prisoners if they're agitated.

"It is not always possible or safe for officers to enter the rear of those transport vans that are very small, and this one was very small."

[...]

"Batts said another man who was in the van during the tail end of Gray's ride told investigators that Gray was "was still moving around, that he was kicking and making noises" up until the van arrived at the station. Batts said the man also said the driver did not speed, make sudden stops of "drive erratically."

But Batts was careful to say that the investigation includes "everything the officers did that day."

 

[Political Junky]

I've read a couple reports that if the suspect is "aggressive" and "represents a threat to the officers safety" they are not held to the seat belt policy. I'll see if I can find the article.

EDIT: Freddie Gray death Baltimore police prisoner transport under scrutiny - World - CBC News
This is not one of the articles I'd originally read, but it appears it might support the angle the other article I read was going for. The policy states "seat belts or other authorized restraining devices." Also says that the other prisoner in the van told them Gray was moving around, kicking, and making noises up until the van arrived at the station, and also that the driver was not giving them a rough ride. Maybe something happened when they unloaded him?


"It is police policy that all arrestees must be buckled in during transport. The policy, updated just nine days before Freddie Gray was injured, states "all passengers, regardless of age and location, shall be restrained by seat belts or other authorized restraining devices."

An attorney representing one of the six officers involved in Gray's arrest said it can sometimes be difficult, or even dangerous, for officers to belt prisoners if they're agitated.

"It is not always possible or safe for officers to enter the rear of those transport vans that are very small, and this one was very small."

[...]

"Batts said another man who was in the van during the tail end of Gray's ride told investigators that Gray was "was still moving around, that he was kicking and making noises" up until the van arrived at the station. Batts said the man also said the driver did not speed, make sudden stops of "drive erratically."

But Batts was careful to say that the investigation includes "everything the officers did that day."

That's odd, because Freddie had no pulse when they arrived at the station.
I'd like to see you link to the guy saying that he was kicking until they reached the station, as I heard him describe the noise he heard as very brief.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This affirmative action prosecutor appears to be charging these cops with criminal homicide....

Affirmative action prosecutor? She was elected, dipshit.

Um....doctors kill 100k a year from medical negligence. We charging them with murder too?

100k, huh? And you got the evidence to back up that claim, right, Officer Doofy?

She BETTER have some hidden evidence. Because as it stands...this is 6 not guilty verdicts and a Planet of the Apes riot waiting to happen.

Keep telling us how the police aren't racist.

But...we needed to feed the black mob some sacrificial lambs. Half of the lambs were black. But its ok...they're just collateral damage to get to the crackas.

Baltimore PD union will get the best defense attorneys around. They're gonna eat the affirmative action attorney for lunch in court.

Murder....for no seat belt and medical negligence. HA! Good luck. The damage she's done to that city and Baltimore PD will last for decades.

BPD is gonna allow purge now. Watch.

You're a very sad little man. Are you bitter because you can't go hunting down brown people anymore?

 

[EverCurious]

That's odd, because Freddie had no pulse when they arrived at the station.
I'd like to see you link to the guy saying that he was kicking until they reached the station, as I heard him describe the noise he heard as very brief.

Sure: Make sure you watch the whole thing cause the story changes a bit. Police Van Passenger Denies Freddie Gray Hurt Himself

The co-prisoner says he told homicide that he thought Gray was banging his head against the grill because he didn't know that the police had beat him up before putting him in there and he was just flopping around dying... In the same interview he says basically says the sound was cause Gray was "detoriating" then later on says that Gray was already dead. Allen also says he was in the van for 15-20 minutes at the most.

Of course, this is the "I watched the news now" version of Allen's story - to cover his ass from being called a snitch he makes quite clear... It'll be interesting to see what he 'actually' told homicide.

 

[ScienceRocks]

There was a coroner at the autopsy. Don't you think he had some input in the manner of death? She didn't pull it out of thin air.

Yeah it was called a homicide. ..which doesnt always mean murder. Hoimicide is also used as medical negligence cases. Just means it wasnt a suicide or illness or accident.

They committed medical negligence. Not murder.

Bullshit -

Proof? The evidence presented points to medical negligence. Not murder.

We don't know everything...If it is negligence then he did it in the back of the van to himself, whereas it can be murder if the cops through him head first into the seats.

We will see what the evidence suggestion.

 

[Ravi]

This affirmative action prosecutor appears to be charging these cops with criminal homicide.....for basically medical negligence. Her probable cause affidavit says NOTHING about an actual malicious assault. Just that they didnt provide immediate medical aid.

Um....doctors kill 100k a year from medical negligence. We charging them with murder too?

She BETTER have some hidden evidence. Because as it stands...this is 6 not guilty verdicts and a Planet of the Apes riot waiting to happen.

This is...at most...a civil lawsuit case of medical negligence.

But...we needed to feed the black mob some sacrificial lambs. Half of the lambs were black. But its ok...they're just collateral damage to get to the crackas.

Baltimore PD union will get the best defense attorneys around. They're gonna eat the affirmative action attorney for lunch in court.

Murder....for no seat belt and medical negligence. HA! Good luck. The damage she's done to that city and Baltimore PD will last for decades.

BPD is gonna allow purge now. Watch.

He was cuffed and shackled and not strapped in. You are scum.

 

[bucs90]

This affirmative action prosecutor appears to be charging these cops with criminal homicide....

Affirmative action prosecutor? She was elected, dipshit.

Um....doctors kill 100k a year from medical negligence. We charging them with murder too?

100k, huh? And you got the evidence to back up that claim, right, Officer Doofy?

She BETTER have some hidden evidence. Because as it stands...this is 6 not guilty verdicts and a Planet of the Apes riot waiting to happen.

Keep telling us how the police aren't racist.

But...we needed to feed the black mob some sacrificial lambs. Half of the lambs were black. But its ok...they're just collateral damage to get to the crackas.

Baltimore PD union will get the best defense attorneys around. They're gonna eat the affirmative action attorney for lunch in court.

Murder....for no seat belt and medical negligence. HA! Good luck. The damage she's done to that city and Baltimore PD will last for decades.

BPD is gonna allow purge now. Watch.

You're a very sad little man. Are you bitter because you can't go hunting down brown people anymore?

Yes. Google it. Doctors kill up to 100k a year in "medical negligence or recklessness" cases. Thats 100x more than cops kill. You ready to charge them with murder now?

My movie reference was to the style of riot...not race. Remember the animals shutting down the Golden Gate bridge and fighting San Francisco PD?? Thats how these riots look. Over a medical negligence case.

These officers are gonna walk. And ill laugh when they do...and sue Baltimore. This prosecutors career just began...and ended...in the same case haha. Hope she likes Baltimore because no one else is touching her with this knee jerk fairness arrest she made to appease a mob. This is what it looks like when a city is run by people like you.

Funny...in 8 years...i never hunted down a single brown person. You still posing as a wannabe mma fighter or did you come back down to Earth?

 

[bucs90]

This affirmative action prosecutor appears to be charging these cops with criminal homicide.....for basically medical negligence. Her probable cause affidavit says NOTHING about an actual malicious assault. Just that they didnt provide immediate medical aid.

Um....doctors kill 100k a year from medical negligence. We charging them with murder too?

She BETTER have some hidden evidence. Because as it stands...this is 6 not guilty verdicts and a Planet of the Apes riot waiting to happen.

This is...at most...a civil lawsuit case of medical negligence.

But...we needed to feed the black mob some sacrificial lambs. Half of the lambs were black. But its ok...they're just collateral damage to get to the crackas.

Baltimore PD union will get the best defense attorneys around. They're gonna eat the affirmative action attorney for lunch in court.

Murder....for no seat belt and medical negligence. HA! Good luck. The damage she's done to that city and Baltimore PD will last for decades.

BPD is gonna allow purge now. Watch.

He was cuffed and shackled and not strapped in. You are scum.

Still not murder. Kangaroo court is in session. Obamas legacy.

 

[Camp]

Still pushing that "basically medical negligence" nonsense. How many post, pages and days can we expect that spin to go on before the propagators of it realize the agenda driven opinion doesn't have legs or wheels.

 

[bucs90]

Still pushing that "basically medical negligence" nonsense. How many post, pages and days can we expect that spin to go on before the propagators of it realize the agenda driven opinion doesn't have legs or wheels.

But thats what it is. The prosecutor all but said it. The disregard for life part...by not immediately calling a medic...is simple negligence. ..not murder.

The Baltimore kangaroo court prosecutor still hasnt said exactly what the cops DID to hurt him.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

The cops violated the rule that states a prisoner must be secured in a seat belt .. Freddie wasn't, then they gave him a rough ride. Guilty as charged.

That policy was updated just nine days before Gray was killed. Is it possible officers were still getting used to the change in policy and may have not intentionally left him unbelted ?