So...MLB has an actual potential gambling scandal brewing

[multivita-man]

I heard about this maybe a week ago and didn't think much of it because I thought maybe it's just one guy with a gambling problem, but it seems maybe more serious now.

Guardians have lost 2 pitchers to gambling probe. Here’s some background info – Terry Pluto

Now the Guardians have two pitchers on "paid leave" as MLB investigates gambling.

www.cleveland.com

Yes, that “odds” pun was intended. MLB’s deal with legal gambling has allowed bets to be placed on almost anything to do with baseball. Ortiz is being investigated for throwing a ball (as opposed to a pitch over the plate) on a certain pitch to a certain batter in a certain inning.

In this day and age of online gambling and fantasy sports, this was bound to happen.

I think the biggest potential deal for a scandal may be in college sports, which is still an evolving landscape with its new NIL reality. I suspect that sometime in the next 5-10 years, we're gonna hear about some player in college football, basketball, or baseball who's angry at not making the NIL money he thinks he's owed hook up with some sketchy people or maybe just go lone-wolf and throw a play or even a game.

 

[pknopp]

You can't partner up with gambling and not expect problems.

 

[multivita-man]

You can't partner up with gambling and not expect problems.

But MLB and NFL think it's a great idea to move franchises to Vegas lol...

Somewhere up in the heavens above, Joe Jackson must be saying 'Oh, come the **** on, man!'

 

[MarathonMike]

But MLB and NFL think it's a great idea to move franchises to Vegas lol...

Somewhere up in the heavens above, Joe Jackson must be saying 'Oh, come the **** on, man!'

Joe Jackson led both teams in hits during the 1919 World series. The other 7 White Sox players threw the series, not Shoeless Joe.

 

[multivita-man]

Joe Jackson led both teams in hits during the 1919 World series. The other 7 White Sox players threw the series, not Shoeless Joe.

Right. Which makes sense and also makes it tragic.

 

[multivita-man]

Sorry to sound like a broken record but I just have a strong feeling we're going to have the college athletics equivalent of a 1919 scandal. I think pro sports, for all its faults, polices itself. Moreover, the salary structures are, for the most part, set up in such a way that there's more to be lost than gained by testing the waters with gambling.

But right now, at the collegiate level, there's a ton of money being thrown at players and it's a situation in which the money is getting ahead of the the policing. I can't say which sport but I just have this feeling that a college football playoff, an March Madness game, or even a College World Series (possibly a semifinal or final) is gonna get tainted in the next decade.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

But MLB and NFL think it's a great idea to move franchises to Vegas lol...

Somewhere up in the heavens above, Joe Jackson must be saying 'Oh, come the **** on, man!'

Stuff it. I need a ball club an hour away.

But my wife pointed out several years ago, this was inevitable.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Down with Pete Rose one of the greatest player ever left a large cum stain on the game.

 

[leftwinger]

I heard about this a month ago. A certain pitch, certain inning, bet sites lit up with bets way over typical on a ball or a walk? Pitcher threw it way out and away. For a 3rd inning walk? I mentioned it in a rambling post I think? Did not hear of the 2nd incident.

 

[leftwinger]

They let the Japanese superstar gamble tens of millions. All he had to was say, "my houseboy did it". Then it was dropped.

Sports Gambling is illegal in CA. No street bookie would give the houseboy $10M line of credit, owing $4million. Sounded very fishy. Gambling is OK for superstars?

Same as they allowed steroids. From A-Roid to Manny to McGuire to Bonds.

 

[my2¢]

I didn't understand what it was all about until catching this on YouTube a day or two ago. I began video at 6:40 marks that has pictures of the pitches which caused MLB to investigate.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Nevermind this scandal, how the hell are the Brewers the best team in baseball? THAT is a scandal.

What is this, 1982? Sorry if I havent followed baseball the last couple of years, but Milwaukee is never on top of a division. I'm rooting for them to finish it off. Of course, the Blue Jays are finally coming into their own, bringing in Gamers, depth hitters and pitchers.

 

[MarathonMike]

Yes some atypical teams at the top of their divisions. Detroit Tigers are another one.

 

[leftwinger]

Yes some atypical teams at the top of their divisions. Detroit Tigers are another one.

They did pretty good last year into the playoffs but lost to CLEVE if I remember right?

 

[leftwinger]

They allow gambling sites, commericals during games promote FanDuel or MGM or other big sites.

It is now down to literally betting on every pitch? every inning? number of hits. walks, HBP anything you can think of you might find available before or during a live game. Calls by official scorer....was that a hit or an error become critical for Kwan..2 hits or more used as an example.

 

[leftwinger]

Nevermind this scandal, how the hell are the Brewers the best team in baseball? THAT is a scandal.

What is this, 1982? Sorry if I havent followed baseball the last couple of years, but Milwaukee is never on top of a division. I'm rooting for them to finish it off. Of course, the Blue Jays are finally coming into their own, bringing in Gamers, depth hitters and pitchers.

MIL changed after Counsel. Got a new MGR named Murphy? He has been doing well both last year and this year.

• Pat Murphy was named the 20th manager in franchise history, replacing Craig Counsell.
• Murphy signed a three-year contract in November 2023.
• He previously served as the Brewers' bench coach from 2016-2023.
• He won the National League Manager of the Year award in 2024, the first Brewers manager to do so.
• He was the head baseball coach at Notre Dame and Arizona State before joining the Padres organization.
• In 2015, he was the interim manager for the San Diego Padres.

 

[DGS49]

Regarding Pete Rose, he broke the rules, but he did not commit the Ultimate Sin - betting AGAINST his team, and performing badly to make it happen. Basketball is best for that strategy.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rose is dead. Put him in.

The same for Sosa, McGuire, Bonds, Clemens, etc. When they die, then reconsider.

 

[Jarlaxle]

No.

 

[leftwinger]

Regarding Pete Rose, he broke the rules, but he did not commit the Ultimate Sin - betting AGAINST his team, and performing badly to make it happen. Basketball is best for that strategy.

Allegedly
Very hard to prove. Only "his word"? And I am not against Rose. Just think about it.

Gambling was illegal in Ohio at that time. You get into debt with those guys they can make you do stuff to pay up. He could also affect games either way if managing. He could ruin players.

Same for the Japanese guy. Sports betting not legal from CA GPS coordinates.

Not like today with legal sites taking bets in many. Almost anonymously.