So important to gain the trust back of our justice systems (FBI, CIA, Courts and more).

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Not having faith and trust in our law enforcement communities, can cause crime and tragic stuff to go unreported, and that's a super tragedy for America and the American people.

How does the citizen's gain the trust back, otherwise so they can feel safe in reporting crime again ????

How important is this topic today ???

I think it's very important... Losing faith in these system's, whether it be in law enforcement and/or in our election system's, can lead to the overall downfall of this country.

When the criminal's start taking control, then the fall is inevitable.

When the criminal's begin operating right out in the open without fear, then the fall is inevitable.

My hope is that law and order will be restored.
 
Not having faith and trust in our law enforcement communities, can cause crime and tragic stuff to go unreported, and that's a super tragedy for America and the American people.

How does the citizen's gain the trust back, otherwise so they can feel safe in reporting crime again ????

How important is this topic today ???

I think it's very important... Losing faith in these system's, whether it be in law enforcement and/or in our election system's, can lead to the overall downfall of this country.

When the criminal's start taking control, then the fall is inevitable.

When the criminal's begin operating right out in the open without fear, then the fall is inevitable.

My hope is that law and order will be restored.

Not important at all. Once the blobbers find a new idol to worship and they win an election or two, presto! Elections will once again be thought of (as much as a conservative can endeavor in the practice of thinking anyway) as being legitimate. You guys have won exactly one popular vote since 1992...so you don't trust the elections.
 
Not having faith and trust in our law enforcement communities, can cause crime and tragic stuff to go unreported, and that's a super tragedy for America and the American people.

How does the citizen's gain the trust back, otherwise so they can feel safe in reporting crime again ????

How important is this topic today ???

I think it's very important... Losing faith in these system's, whether it be in law enforcement and/or in our election system's, can lead to the overall downfall of this country.

When the criminal's start taking control, then the fall is inevitable.

When the criminal's begin operating right out in the open without fear, then the fall is inevitable.

My hope is that law and order will be restored.
Losing trust? The CIA has fucked with the American public for far longer than I've been alive...and I'm over 50. Things like MKUltra are NOT conspiracy theories. They have been publicly admitted to and declassified...and probably renamed and continued in some other form in total secrecy ILLEGALLY. So this loss of trust has actually been warranted for a long long time... Not just in the wake of the events of the past 20 years.

Then there are things like the assassination of JFK. Even local police departments have their operatives who were in on stuff like that....and they had the quiet support of the intelligence community which groomed them into their roles. Corrupt politicians and police are the result as much as the cause. Most of our politicians are puppets, not just of business people with money but of a deep state which has it's deepest roots in the intelligence community. Thus, producing people like George H.W. Bush and his New World Order.
 
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Not having faith and trust in our law enforcement communities, can cause crime and tragic stuff to go unreported, and that's a super tragedy for America and the American people.

How does the citizen's gain the trust back, otherwise so they can feel safe in reporting crime again ????

How important is this topic today ???

I think it's very important... Losing faith in these system's, whether it be in law enforcement and/or in our election system's, can lead to the overall downfall of this country.

When the criminal's start taking control, then the fall is inevitable.

When the criminal's begin operating right out in the open without fear, then the fall is inevitable.

My hope is that law and order will be restored.
That is all our hope, but a corrupt government agency that investigates itself will exonerate itself pretty much every time. Or if it admits to finding wrong doing or problems, it will declare that fixed and no longer a problem.

No matter how much investigation a GOP House majority does, it will have almost no effect with a Democrat controlled media that won't report it, and a Justice Dept. that won't indict anybody but Republicans of any crimes.

No matter what responsible legislation a GOP House majority passes, it won't get much if any honest coverage from that Democrat controlled media and it is unlikely Schumer will even bring it to a vote, much less that a Democrat controlled Senate will pass it or Biden will sign it.

A Justice Dept. wholly in bed with the Democrats isn't going to hold their own accountable and that Justice Dept. isn't going to look for any corruption in the electoral process, and Democrat controlled state houses and legislatures are not going to clean it up.

Even Republicans that lack courage, vision, and purpose are not likely to fight for meaningful reforms. We've seen that again and again.

The only solution is:
--Elect majorities of responsible Republicans/Patriots with courage, vision, and dedication to the law and the Constitution and the good of the American people and who will reform the process and system.
--Reform the court system so that it judges according to the law again instead of ideology.
--People like Elon Musk or others with common sense and a dedication to truth need to buy the big media conglomerates and return them to responsible journalism again.
--Federal government and federal unions should be taken out of public education completely.
--The profit motive should be taken out of the federal and state governments to make it much more difficult for elected/appointed officials to enrich themselves in their jobs so that we elect public servants to office again instead of professional politicians and opportunists.
 
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I don't think its possible to regain that trust

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When sewing abject distrust of institutions is baked in to political/electoral system as a motivation to gain advantage, a country is in real trouble.

A reasoned cynicism is a very healthy thing; summarily refusing to accept anything that doesn't go your way is immature, irrational and destructive.

Life isn't binary. It's not one or the other. Too many either refuse to understand that, or they have somehow lost the capacity to understand it.
 
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Losing trust? The CIA has fucked with the American public for far longer than I've been alive...and I'm over 50. Things like MKUltra are NOT conspiracy theories. They have been publicly admitted to and declassified...and probably renamed and continued in some other form in total secrecy ILLEGALLY. So this loss of trust has actually been warranted for a long long time... Not just in the wake of the events of the past 20 years.

Then there are things like the assassination of JFK. Even local police departments have their operatives who were in on stuff like that....and they had the quiet support of the intelligence community which groomed them into their roles. Corrupt politicians and police are the result as much as the cause. Most of our politicians are puppets, not just of business people with money but of a deep state which has it's deepest roots in the intelligence community. Thus, producing people like George H.W. Bush and his New World Order.
Can it be fixed ?

EVER ??

I mean whistle blower's of all kinds should feel good about coming forward without fear, but if they fear coming forward more than anytime in history, then how close are we getting towards to final outcome one wonder's ?

I guess then, hmmmm that it's based on percentages where as the people would gain back the trust in these ways maybe, otherwise enough for it to bring balance back to the system, because you are right it's not perfect, and it's never going to be. So what percentage are we hoping for in order for it to work best again ??
 
That is all our hope, but a corrupt government agency that investigates itself will exonerate itself pretty much every time. Or if it admits to finding wrong doing or problems, it will declare that fixed and no longer a problem.

No matter how much investigation a GOP House majority does, it will have almost no effect with a Democrat controlled media that won't report it, and a Justice Dept. that won't indict anybody but Republicans of any crimes.

No matter what responsible legislation a GOP House majority passes, it won't get much if any honest coverage from that Democrat controlled media and it is unlikely Schumer will even bring it to a vote, much less that a Democrat controlled Senate will pass it or Biden will sign it.

A Justice Dept. wholly in bed with the Democrats isn't going to hold their own accountable and that Justice Dept. isn't going to look for any corruption in the electoral process, and Democrat controlled state houses and legislatures are not going to clean it up.

Even Republicans that lack courage, vision, and purpose are not likely to fight for meaningful reforms. We've seen that again and again.

The only solution is:
--Elect majorities of responsible Republicans/Patriots with courage, vision, and dedication to the law and the Constitution and the good of the American people and who will reform the process and system.
--Reform the court system so that it judges according to the law again instead of ideology.
--People like Elon Musk or others with common sense and a dedication to truth need to buy the big media conglomerates and return them to responsible journalism again.
--Federal government and federal unions should be taken out of public education completely.
--The profit motive should be taken out of the federal and state governments to make it much more difficult for elected/appointed officials to enrich themselves in their jobs so that we elect public servants to office again instead of professional politicians and opportunists.
Agree, but getting these people elected in a corrupt system, uhhhh is also proving now to be a very arduous task. Without the complete protection of whistleblowers, the system has fallen prey to predator's and vulture's that control the doorways to justice coming and going.
 
When sewing abject distrust of institutions is baked in to political/electoral system as a motivation to gain advantage, a country is in real trouble.

A reasoned cynicism is a very healthy thing; summarily refusing to accept anything that doesn't go your way is immature, irrational and destructive.

Life isn't binary. It's not one or the other. Too many either refuse to understand that, or they have somehow lost the capacity to understand it.
And your solution is what ??
 
The biggest downfall is not protecting the whistleblowers, and not creating an environment safe enough for them to trust when coming forward.
 
Not having faith and trust in our law enforcement communities, can cause crime and tragic stuff to go unreported, and that's a super tragedy for America and the American people.

How does the citizen's gain the trust back, otherwise so they can feel safe in reporting crime again ????

How important is this topic today ???

I think it's very important... Losing faith in these system's, whether it be in law enforcement and/or in our election system's, can lead to the overall downfall of this country.

When the criminal's start taking control, then the fall is inevitable.

When the criminal's begin operating right out in the open without fear, then the fall is inevitable.

My hope is that law and order will be restored.
But the democrats continue to be openly lawless.

How can anyone stop them?

BTW, anyone want some Biden classified documents I found in my garage?

I don't understand, I don't even own a corvette.
 
But the democrats continue to be openly lawless.

How can anyone stop them?

BTW, anyone want some Biden classified documents I found in my garage?

I don't understand, I don't even own a corvette.
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Car A Lago.

Don't recall which poster said it, but it fits.



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Agree, but getting these people elected in a corrupt system, uhhhh is also proving now to be a very arduous task. Without the complete protection of whistleblowers, the system has fallen prey to predator's and vulture's that control the doorways to justice coming and going.
No argument from me there. Good people have to support good laws when they pass, defend those who pass them, and push back on corrupt politicians and media who misrepresent what they pass.

The deep state now controls most of the media, education, scientific institutions, big business, and far too much of government. If there aren't enough left with the power, knowledge, common sense and wherewithal to stop this trend, that 'coup' will be complete maybe within this generation and America will be just another big Marxist/socialist country in perpetual stagnation or decline. The only liberties the people will have are what a totalitarian government decides they will have on any given day.

Our friends who hate the idea of MAGA and hold those of us who support that vision in contempt will have condoned and allowed it. They won't like the results but then it will be too late.
 
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Trust and faith are two things that once gone, are gone. They are truly irreplaceable.
Might take a minute, but hopefully it can be restored. The main focus to begin the hopefully short way back IMO, is to protect at all cost the whistleblower's. Not the crooked whistleblower's who are informant's for the dark side, but the good whistleblower's instead.

Fighting crime is huge when it comes to the protection of the whistleblower's, otherwise that bring truth to the table instead of lie's. After that the law should protect at all cost the whistleblower's who risked their live's and sometimes family's live's trying to help keep law and order with their first hand knowledge given. Betrayal of the whistleblower's who are putting their live's at risk, is the most immoral henious disgusting act ever. It lead's directly to the fall of civilized society.

This is why it is a super very important thing not to allow corrupt force's to make their way to the tops of the food chain's.
 

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