So, Coyote, who won the Democratic Debate?

[Coyote]

You aren't objective and they all were better than Trump.

As stated coming from the demonstrably least objective person on the forum.

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Wow, 20 people in a forum of 40,000, a nation of 330 million, and a world of 7.7 billion, think I am a racist. Why my goodness I should just stop what I am doing and see things the way those 20 people want me to.

Lol!

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Are you in favor of Reparations?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? And don't come with that we weren't there or did not own slave bullshit. Slavery is the basis on which current white American wealth is built.

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery.

Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

That is a grotesque claim to make right up there with claiming Jews benefited from the Holocaust.

Centuries of unpaid labor, premayure death, torture, rape and forced family seperation is difficult to conceive of as beneficial. They certainly saw none of tbe economic benefits of their labor and attempts to rise were squashed under the weight of Jim Crowe.

 

[Terri4Trump]

And it is great when it works ya? How has it helped those communitees?

It starts with the breakdown of the family. When poor families are broken, when they teach kids to hate cops and hate ******, when the kids commit crimes and drop out of school with everything that follows that, you are guaranteed a never ending circle of misery, and no government program can affect that circle.

Parents need to break the circle. Have you read the story of what Ben Carson's mom did with Ben? She bucked the trend. I suggest you read it.

 

[Coyote]

If reparations were paid tomorrow I would direct my part to be put in a fund dedicated to rebuilding black communities.

Nah, if reparations were paid, your car would look like this the next day. This is why we dont want Harris or Booker as president. Your cars are eye sores and therefore bad for the country.

This is in WV. We are are a very white state. This is a white boy truck. One of many.

This is Kamala Harris’ car. Looks pretty classy.

 

[Coyote]

And it is great when it works ya? How has it helped those communitees?

It starts with the breakdown of the family. When poor families are broken, when they teach kids to hate cops and hate ******, when the kids commit crimes and drop out of school with everything that follows that, you are guaranteed a never ending circle of misery, and no government program can affect that circle.

Parents need to break the circle. Have you read the story of what Ben Carson's mom did with Ben? She bucked the trend. I suggest you read it.

You make a lot of assumptions. They sound more like talking points. Ever sat down to dinner with a black family?

 

[Coyote]

I like Klobuchar....but doubt she has a chance.

 

[IM2]

I don’t support reparations. Native Americans get something different, not reparations. What I would support is increased community investment and empowerment to disadvantaged communitees including better police/ community relations, safety, education, urban renewal that doesn’t price residents out of their homes. That type of investment would disproportionately help African American communities.

If a candidate pushes for reparations it create a further racial rift, resentment of people who feel forced to pay for something they had no part in, or who feel one group of people are getting something special solely based on skin color, that is denied to others.

Native Americans do get reparations, and if you check the Cobell v. Salazar case you will see that they have recently received formal reparations.

Whites have got to get out of this selfish mindset that has them thinking that something creates resentment or is divisive only if they don't like it. Do you not think that it is divisive for us to know that we were robbed of trillions and that money is how whites have the advantages they live on today? Do you not think that creates resentment because we continue to be disadvantaged because of what was done and whites are still benefitting only because of their color?

It's just time whites stopped repeating race pimped junk. The wealth made from slavery compounded over the years and the apartheid after slavery further compounded the wealth. Whites today have benefitted from racist policies implemented at every level of government.

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

Systematic Inequality - Center for American Progress

The economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap | McKinsey

We as blacks have paid for all of American history for things that have only benefitted whites. It took an act of congress called the Community Reinvestment Act for banks with branches in black communities, or in towns where blacks put money in those banks, to invest in black communities and that was in 1977. Still today black tax dollars are put in city,state and federal coffers and black communities do not get back what we put in while we watch white communities take all the money.

People here talk about Chicago and Baltimore yet these are prime examples. The white donor class rules public policy in Chicago. Martin O'Malley decided redevelopment of the harbor was apriority and the black community could kick rocks because of wealthy white business concerns. We had to force the capital city of our state to change it's funding to include programs and community development in the black community.

So it's time the argument of I am forced to pay for something I had no part in, or who feel one group of people are getting something special solely based on skin color, that is denied to others to end. Because we as blacks have been forced to do this since 7-4-1776.

 

[eagle7_31]

I am an objective observer, I am disgusted by all of them.

Uncle Joe started off good enough, but his brain gets tired pretty quick, and it had quit working by the time they asked him about past racial issues, and he responded by talking about Venezuela and record players. Whatever is wrong with him is only going to get worse over the next grueling year.

And "The Bern" look even older and even crabbier than usual. He only looked good three years ago, because he was being compared to the worst candidate in history---the Depraved Hillary Clinton.

The two old White Boys are done.

So, I would say Elizabeth Warren. She is easily the closest to being a certifiable Lunatic, and that's a benefit in today's Demo-Socialist Electorate.

What do you think, Coyote? Anybody?

Your opinion on this would be much appreciated.

Bi-Partisan discussion?

Who won? Donald Trump.

 

[IM2]

And it is great when it works ya? How has it helped those communitees?

It starts with the breakdown of the family. When poor families are broken, when they teach kids to hate cops and hate ******, when the kids commit crimes and drop out of school with everything that follows that, you are guaranteed a never ending circle of misery, and no government program can affect that circle.

Parents need to break the circle. Have you read the story of what Ben Carson's mom did with Ben? She bucked the trend. I suggest you read it.

You make a lot of assumptions. They sound more like talking points. Ever sat down to dinner with a black family?

Terri is ignorant. You don't need to read about Ben Carson to know that she's full of shit.

 

[IM2]

You aren't objective and they all were better than Trump.

As stated coming from the demonstrably least objective person on the forum.

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Wow, 20 people in a forum of 40,000, a nation of 330 million, and a world of 7.7 billion, think I am a racist. Why my goodness I should just stop what I am doing and see things the way those 20 people want me to.

Lol!

_____

Are you in favor of Reparations?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? And don't come with that we weren't there or did not own slave bullshit. Slavery is the basis on which current white American wealth is built.

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery.

Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

Nobody wants to hear ignorance from a race of people who have been given everything by the government.

 

[IM2]

If reparations were paid tomorrow I would direct my part to be put in a fund dedicated to rebuilding black communities.

Nah, if reparations were paid, your car would look like this the next day. This is why we dont want Harris or Booker as president. Your cars are eye sores and therefore bad for the country.

Yawn! You don't see any blacks driving bigfoots.

I understand that you're scared of blacks getting complete equality. But when we get reparations if you need a job in my business, I'll hire you.

 

[blackhawk]

Probably Biden he wasn’t great but with this crew he didn’t have to be the end result of this debate is won’t move the needle and Biden is still the front runner.

 

[toobfreak]

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery. Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

That is a grotesque claim to make right up there with claiming Jews benefited from the Holocaust.

Oddly, I saw no mention of the Jews, the Holocaust or benefiting from it. Too bad you never studied Logic to understand that is a fallacy of reasoning.

Centuries of unpaid labor, premayure death, torture, rape and forced family seperation is difficult to conceive of as beneficial. They certainly saw none of tbe economic benefits of their labor and attempts to rise were squashed under the weight of Jim Crowe.

The fact is that it is disingenuous to apply 21st century standards to 17th century acts as these are two worlds apart, just as it is disingenuous to say that no slaves ever were compensated for their service in food, housing and many other things including owning slaves themselves! Or didn't you know that some high ranking slaves were allowed to own low ranking ones? Just as not all slaves suffered torture, premature death, rape and family separation. Meantime, many other people have suffered these things without ever being slaves!

Slavery is something that existed since the dawn of man, was a universal practice and has been essentially outlawed for centuries now, meantime its modern evolved equivalent continues on in the form of economic and social slavery for many, even if they are not ostensibly "owned" as property. The only real remedy is to go out and live well.

 

[toobfreak]

As stated coming from the demonstrably least objective person on the forum.

View attachment 279188

Wow, 20 people in a forum of 40,000, a nation of 330 million, and a world of 7.7 billion, think I am a racist. Why my goodness I should just stop what I am doing and see things the way those 20 people want me to.

Lol!

_____

Are you in favor of Reparations?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? And don't come with that we weren't there or did not own slave bullshit. Slavery is the basis on which current white American wealth is built.

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery.

Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

Nobody wants to hear ignorance from a race of people who have been given everything by the government.

Which is exactly why you ought to STFU while you're still ahead.

 

[SweetSue92]

I don’t support reparations. Native Americans get something different, not reparations. What I would support is increased community investment and empowerment to disadvantaged communitees including better police/ community relations, safety, education, urban renewal that doesn’t price residents out of their homes. That type of investment would disproportionately help African American communities.

If a candidate pushes for reparations it create a further racial rift, resentment of people who feel forced to pay for something they had no part in, or who feel one group of people are getting something special solely based on skin color, that is denied to others.

Native Americans do get reparations, and if you check the Cobell v. Salazar case you will see that they have recently received formal reparations.

Whites have got to get out of this selfish mindset that has them thinking that something creates resentment or is divisive only if they don't like it. Do you not think that it is divisive for us to know that we were robbed of trillions and that money is how whites have the advantages they live on today? Do you not think that creates resentment because we continue to be disadvantaged because of what was done and whites are still benefitting only because of their color?

It's just time whites stopped repeating race pimped junk. The wealth made from slavery compounded over the years and the apartheid after slavery further compounded the wealth. Whites today have benefitted from racist policies implemented at every level of government.

The Amazing Resiliency of White Wealth - CityLab

Systematic Inequality - Center for American Progress

The economic impact of closing the racial wealth gap | McKinsey

We as blacks have paid for all of American history for things that have only benefitted whites. It took an act of congress called the Community Reinvestment Act for banks with branches in black communities, or in towns where blacks put money in those banks, to invest in black communities and that was in 1977. Still today black tax dollars are put in city,state and federal coffers and black communities do not get back what we put in while we watch white communities take all the money.

People here talk about Chicago and Baltimore yet these are prime examples. The white donor class rules public policy in Chicago. Martin O'Malley decided redevelopment of the harbor was apriority and the black community could kick rocks because of wealthy white business concerns. We had to force the capital city of our state to change it's funding to include programs and community development in the black community.

So it's time the argument of I am forced to pay for something I had no part in, or who feel one group of people are getting something special solely based on skin color, that is denied to others to end. Because we as blacks have been forced to do this since 7-4-1776.

You whine about Baltimore and Chicago yet you will still vote Democrat, straight ticket. Yep

 

[Coyote]

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery. Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

That is a grotesque claim to make right up there with claiming Jews benefited from the Holocaust.

Oddly, I saw no mention of the Jews, the Holocaust or benefiting from it. Too bad you never studied Logic to understand that is a fallacy of reasoning.

I studied logic. You must not pay much attention to the antisemites that infest this place.

Centuries of unpaid labor, premayure death, torture, rape and forced family seperation is difficult to conceive of as beneficial. They certainly saw none of tbe economic benefits of their labor and attempts to rise were squashed under the weight of Jim Crowe.

The fact is that it is disingenuous to apply 21st century standards to 17th century acts as these are two worlds apart, just as it is disingenuous to say that no slaves ever were compensated for their service in food, housing and many other things including owning slaves themselves! Or didn't you know that some high ranking slaves were allowed to own low ranking ones? Just as not all slaves suffered torture, premature death, rape and family separation. Meantime, many other people have suffered these things without ever being slaves!

Slavery is something that existed since the dawn of man, was a universal practice and has been essentially outlawed for centuries now, meantime its modern evolved equivalent continues on in the form of economic and social slavery for many, even if they are not ostensibly "owned" as property. The only real remedy is to go out and live well.

So argument is that because SOME slaves had it marginally better than majority of slaves...blacks benefited?

Good god.

 

[toobfreak]

Wow, 20 people in a forum of 40,000, a nation of 330 million, and a world of 7.7 billion, think I am a racist. Why my goodness I should just stop what I am doing and see things the way those 20 people want me to.

Lol!

_____

Are you in favor of Reparations?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? And don't come with that we weren't there or did not own slave bullshit. Slavery is the basis on which current white American wealth is built.

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery.

Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

That is a grotesque claim to make right up there with claiming Jews benefited from the Holocaust.

Centuries of unpaid labor, premayure death, torture, rape and forced family seperation is difficult to conceive of as beneficial. They certainly saw none of tbe economic benefits of their labor and attempts to rise were squashed under the weight of Jim Crowe.

It's a known fact that many white folk got extremely wealthy off the backs of black workers

It's a well-known fact that many more white folk get even more extremely wealthy today off the backs of white workers! And Black, red and yellow too!).

 

[toobfreak]

You must not pay much attention to the antisemites that infest this place.

I try to pay as little attention as possible to:

• The Race-Baiters.
• The Jew Haters.
• The Arab Sufferers.
• The Atheists who want proof of god standing on one foot.
• The Baptist Christians who want to either curse me for not accepting their God or want to save my soul.
• The Trump bashers who say he can do no right.
• The Trump Zombie's who deny he can do no wrong.
• The America Bashers.
• The Gun Fear-Mongers.
• The Socialists who think Sweden is heaven.
• The Freaks, Perverts, and Sex Weirdos.
• fbj's eternal woman problems.
• IM2's resentment that white people weren't born black.
• The Climate Creeps who think Earth will stop spinning on its axis unless we return to 1850.
• The "science" debater's who haven't the first knowledge of anything true science.

Life is just getting to short to spend all day arguing with idiots.

So argument is that because SOME slaves had it marginally better than majority of slaves...blacks benefited?

Nope. Never meant to imply that anyone was supposed to /benefit/ from it other than those that practiced it, just that it was the norm of the day, had been the norm throughout history, and was universally practiced in some form by almost every nation, race and people! Even other blacks! And in a sense, still goes on today. That said, slavery was horrible for many, not as bad for some and actually pretty good for a few. A huge injustice -- -- -- -- to go along with about 100,000,000,000 other huge injustices suffered historically by mankind, individually, collectively, nationally, geographically and racially throughout human history!

But for some reason, a certain small faction of Blacks now have convinced themselves they are a special case deserving special treatment and attention, and a huge ass-kissing (again). That won't actually solve anything and will only create the OPPOSITE effect of renewing racial tensions yet again (it seems some simply don't want peace and equity between the races) and will only make things worse by igniting a new race war worse than ever before. And is that what anyone REALLY wants?

What was taken from about 3 million slaves around the time of the Civil War can NEVER be repaid by anyone to anyone today, not with any amount of money, and not to strangers 200 years later. The only true remedy to sins of the past is to move forward learning and growing from them into a better future for all making sure these mistakes are never repeated again.

 

[Godboy]

If reparations were paid tomorrow I would direct my part to be put in a fund dedicated to rebuilding black communities.

Nah, if reparations were paid, your car would look like this the next day. This is why we dont want Harris or Booker as president. Your cars are eye sores and therefore bad for the country.

This is in WV. We are are a very white state. This is a white boy truck. One of many.

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This is Kamala Harris’ car. Looks pretty classy.

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That white boy truck serves a purpose. Its a 4x4 meant for "mudding". Having gigantic wheels with super low profile tires serves absolutely no purpose other than being an eye sore.

 

[Godboy]

As stated coming from the demonstrably least objective person on the forum.

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Wow, 20 people in a forum of 40,000, a nation of 330 million, and a world of 7.7 billion, think I am a racist. Why my goodness I should just stop what I am doing and see things the way those 20 people want me to.

Lol!

_____

Are you in favor of Reparations?

Yes. Do you have a problem with that? And don't come with that we weren't there or did not own slave bullshit. Slavery is the basis on which current white American wealth is built.

You werent there and you were never a slave. Black people today have benefitted the most from slavery. If some other people hadnt suffered for you in the past, youd be stuck in Africa. You also reap any and every reward that white people today get from slavery.

Quit begging for money and get a job you bum.

Nobody wants to hear ignorance from a race of people who have been given everything by the government.

You shouldnt be so hard on black people just because weve dumped trillions into their communities.

 

[Godboy]

If reparations were paid tomorrow I would direct my part to be put in a fund dedicated to rebuilding black communities.

Nah, if reparations were paid, your car would look like this the next day. This is why we dont want Harris or Booker as president. Your cars are eye sores and therefore bad for the country.

Yawn! You don't see any blacks driving bigfoots.

I understand that you're scared of blacks getting complete equality. But when we get reparations if you need a job in my business, I'll hire you.

"Bigfoots" are meant for offroading. What are your giant rims meant for?