Should the parents of unvaccinated kids in S. Texas who have contracted the measles..............

[Robert W]

Really? You’re going to deny the huge outbreak in New York in 2018-2019?

It was all over the news.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1912514

Marener, Will you set your settings so I can ask you using PM a question about you being a pilot?

 

[hadit]

The Right and the Repubs (but I repeat myself) always go with narrative over facts.
Glad I could fix that for ya.

Except what you say is false, so there's that...

Case in point. Repeated MAGAists on this thread have said, without evidence, the cause of the outbreak in TX is due to unvaccinated illegal immigrants.

Oh, I get it. You apparently think somebody else doing something somewhat similar clouds the issue sufficiently to stop everyone noticing the vacuity of the assertion being made. IOW, did you do the math so as to support the assertion?

 

[hadit]

Has anyone figured out yet how vaccines given at 12 - 15 months that parents refused are responsible for outbreaks of disease in school-aged kids and are the fault of a guy who's been in office a few weeks? I want to see the math.

 

[Marener]

Marener, Will you set your settings so I can ask you using PM a question about you being a pilot?

I’m not a pilot.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We all know viruses and infections will not cross borders.

Which is why you get vaccinated.

 

[MagicMike]

How many are illegals

None.
Most belong to a Menonite colony.

 

[Couchpotato]

Really? You’re going to deny the huge outbreak in New York in 2018-2019?

It was all over the news.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1912514

650 cases is a "huge" outbreak?

NYC has almost 9 million people.

 

[Couchpotato]

None.
Most belong to a Menonite colony.

Which says nothing regarding how the outbreak started. It would be interesting to know whether this is a yearly occurrence in that colony or if this is a one off. If the former then we know why this is news now, and if the latter what's changed this year vs past years.

 

[Marener]

650 cases is a "huge" outbreak?

NYC has almost 9 million people.

There were actually over 1000 as the outbreak spread across several areas but had the same source, an unvaccinated kid who had returned from a trip abroad having contacted measles there.

The knee jerk reaction to blaming illegal aliens and thinking that’s the only possible cause and only reason we have measles outbreaks is stupidity and ignores history.

To be clear, I don’t hate on anyone for not knowing this. I hate on people for acting like they know about anything relating to this when they clearly don’t.

 

[Leo123]

There were actually over 1000 as the outbreak spread across several areas but had the same source, an unvaccinated kid who had returned from a trip abroad having contacted measles there.

The knee jerk reaction to blaming illegal aliens and thinking that’s the only possible cause and only reason we have measles outbreaks is stupidity and ignores history.

To be clear, I don’t hate on anyone for not knowing this. I hate on people for acting like they know about anything relating to this when they clearly don’t.

Maybe if Biden hadn't let all those unvetted illegals into our country we wouldn't have to worry about diseases we cured long ago coming back. There has also been a resurgence of TB here which is prevalent in other countries. There is nothing 'knee jerk' about that.

 

[Couchpotato]

There were actually over 1000 as the outbreak spread across several areas but had the same source, an unvaccinated kid who had returned from a trip abroad having contacted measles there.

The knee jerk reaction to blaming illegal aliens and thinking that’s the only possible cause and only reason we have measles outbreaks is stupidity and ignores history.

To be clear, I don’t hate on anyone for not knowing this. I hate on people for acting like they know about anything relating to this when they clearly don’t.

Make it 2000. In a population of 9 million that's not even a blip.

 

[Couchpotato]

The knee jerk reaction to blaming illegal aliens and thinking that’s the only possible cause and only reason we have measles outbreaks is stupidity and ignores history.

That's fair.

To be clear, I don’t hate on anyone for not knowing this. I hate on people for acting like they know about anything relating to this when they clearly don’t.

Are these yearly or routine (happening every so many years cyclically) occurrences within these communities? Where it happened like the Mennonite community in W Texas they didn't just start not vaccinating. If it happens every year or few years, then it's just the cyclical nature of the disease spread. If no one was getting Measles in those communities and then all of a sudden there's an outbreak, while the reason it spread is lack of vaccination the reason it started had to be a change to the system, correct? Something had to introduce the virus. It's not illogical to look at the introduction of a huge swath of people whose medical history is questionable at best. That doesn't mean they are 100% for sure the source, but they certainly are a new variable in the system.

 

[Robert W]

I’m not a pilot.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Unkotare]

I’m not a pilot.

Not even Pontius?

 

[Unkotare]

None.
Most belong to a Menonite colony.

 

[Robert W]

The knee jerk reaction to blaming illegal aliens and thinking that’s the only possible cause and only reason we have measles outbreaks is stupidity and ignores history.

I don't blame the illegals but what makes sense? Measles imported or measles among a population here in the usa who have not been having measles. Also the CDC shows very few have measles.

 

[Unkotare]

I don't blame the illegals but what makes sense? Measles imported or measles among a population here in the usa who have not been having measles. Also the CDC shows very few have measles.

Just a measly amount?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Maybe if Biden hadn't let all those unvetted illegals into our country we wouldn't have to worry about diseases we cured long ago coming back. There has also been a resurgence of TB here which is prevalent in other countries. There is nothing 'knee jerk' about that.

The illegals are not the populations causing the outbreaks. It's the unvaxxed kids of stupid parents.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Should the Biden administration...........be held responsible for unnecessarily putting their kid's health, and other kid's health, in jeopardy, by letting in illegal aliens with measles?

Sure! Just show us one example of them diagnosing measles in an illegal immigrant and releasingg them based on a letter or policy signed by Biden.

Remember, it's your book report, not ours.

 

[Couchpotato]

Sure! Just show us one example of them diagnosing measles in an illegal immigrant and releasingg them based on a letter or policy signed by Biden.

Remember, it's your book report, not ours.

Did they require a vaccination card when they picked them up at the border and put them on a plane to the interior of the US? Oh they didn't? Hmm.