Should Production And Deployment Of Vanadium Redox Batteries Be Subsidized As Infrastructure ?

[Monk-Eye]

" Should Production And Deployment Of Vanadium Redox Batteries Be Subsidized As Infrastructure ? "


* Role Of Congress For Directed Economy From American School Of Economics *

The economic libertarian us free market capitalists , interested only in selling out the interests of us nationals through globalism and short term gains , collaborated with us congress to disavow any directed economy with a comprehensive scope , which allowed CCP to corner economic markets for lithium and other rare earth minerals .

The american school of economics proposes that government through congress should play a role in facilitating crucial infrastructure which privateers are either incapable of , or disinterested in facilitating .

The american school of economics maintains goals where us is self sufficient in providing all necessary resources for its selves , with protection of lucrative and infant industries for them to become globally competitive , such that tariffs and subsidies are to be targeted .

The american school of economics suggests that tariffs , subsidies and direct procurement are available to congress ( article 1 section 8 ) as resources for directing us economy , especially to facilitate crucial infrastructure .

Thus should production and deployment of vanadium redox batteries be subsidized as crucial us infrastructure ?


* Energy Storage After Production *

. Vanadium Flow Batteries Revolutionise Energy Storage in Australia - BE&R Consulting .
Vanadium Flow Batteries Revolutionise Energy Storage in Australia
BE&R have been closely monitoring the advancement of energy storage systems, from the initial adoption of lithium-ion batteries on offshore gas platforms to the integration of battery storage in green Hydrogen and Ammonia plants. Up until now, lithium-ion technology has dominated the field due to its lightweight and responsive nature, but vanadium flow batteries are on the horizon as the next significant advancement in energy storage.
The commercial and technical potential of this integrated technology is exciting. The key take-aways were:
The 100kW solar PV (photovoltaic) panels were installed on retractable tracks, allowing them to be stowed in a 20ft sea-container in under 30 minutes, making them cost-effective and resilient for installation in storm-prone areas.
The 200 kW.hr flow battery neatly fits into a 20 ft sea-container and has a 20-year lifespan, limited only by the standard electrical inverter, not the battery itself.
Vanadium is the only significant exotic material in the battery system, providing a clear alternative to graphite, cobalt, lithium and nickel dependent battery tech.
The cost of this unit is comparable to a lithium battery pack. As technology production scales up we expect costs to plummet.
In the Pilot unit, a graphene capacitor type battery was added to test the handling of impulse loads – the short few second duration power spikes seen when starting large electrical motors.


* Go Ogle China Corners Lithium Market *
. Google Search .
Yes, China effectively "corners" the lithium market not by mining most of it, but by dominating the crucial refining, processing, and battery manufacturing stages, giving it immense control over the global supply chain, with Chinese firms investing heavily in mines worldwide and leveraging massive government support and economies of scale to control pricing and supply. This control extends from securing raw materials in places like the "Lithium Triangle" (Chile, Argentina, Bolivia) to processing over 90% of the world's graphite and two-thirds of lithium/cobalt processing capacity.
How China Gained Control:
Strategic Investment: Chinese companies, often state-backed, poured billions into acquiring lithium mines and processing facilities globally (Africa, South America, Australia) even when demand was lower.
Government Subsidies: The Chinese government provided massive subsidies, tax breaks, and rebates to build up its domestic refining and battery industries ahead of global demand, say sources like the Atlantic Council.
Processing Dominance: China's near-monopoly on refining capacity allows it to process raw lithium from other nations (like Australia) into battery-grade materials, creating dependency.
Battery Manufacturing Hub: As the world's largest battery producer, China leverages its control over raw materials and processing to optimize battery costs, particularly for LFP batteries, say sources from the CRU Group.
Impact on the Market:
Supply Chain Vulnerability: Western nations, heavily reliant on Chinese-processed materials, are exposed to potential disruptions, prompting efforts to build alternative supply chains, notes the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Price Volatility: Chinese market actions, like output changes or even export controls, can trigger significant price swings in the volatile lithium market, according to the National Association of Manufacturers - NAM and other sources.
Strategic Advantage: Beijing uses its control to counter Western policies (like the U.S. IRA) and secure its own technology edge in the green energy transition, according to the Atlantic Council.
In essence, China controls the value-added steps, making it a central player that dictates terms for the entire global battery and EV industry, notes the National Association of Manufacturers - NAM.

* Vanadium Redox Batteries Wikipedia Review *
. Vanadium redox battery - Wikipedia .
The vanadium redox battery (VRB), also known as the vanadium flow battery (VFB) or vanadium redox flow battery (VRFB), is a type of rechargeable flow battery which employs vanadium ions as charge carriers.[5] The battery uses vanadium's ability to exist in a solution in four different oxidation states to make a battery with a single electroactive element instead of two.[6]
For several reasons, including their relative bulkiness, vanadium batteries are typically used for grid energy storage, i.e., attached to power plants/electrical grids.[7]
Numerous companies and organizations are involved in funding and developing vanadium redox batteries.

VRFBs' main advantages over other types of battery:[21]
energy capacity and power capacity are decoupled and can be scaled separately
energy capacity is obtained from the storage of liquid electrolytes rather than the cell itself
power capacity can be increased by adding more cells
can remain discharged indefinitely without damage
mixing electrolytes causes no permanent damage
single charge state across the electrolytes avoids capacity degradation
safe, non-flammable aqueous electrolyte
no noise or emissions
wide operating temperature range including passive cooling[22][23]
long charge/discharge cycle lives: 15,000-20,000 cycles and 10–20 years.
low levelized cost: (a few tens of cents), approaching the 2016 $0.05 target stated by the United States Department of Energy and the European Commission Strategic Energy Technology Plan €0.05 target.[24]

VRFBs' main disadvantages compared to other types of battery:[21]
high and volatile prices of vanadium minerals (i.e. the cost of VRFB energy)
relatively poor round trip efficiency (compared to lithium-ion batteries)
heavy weight of aqueous electrolyte
relatively poor energy-to-volume ratio compared to standard storage batteries
having moving parts in the pumps that produce the flow of electrolyte solution
toxicity of vanadium (V) compounds.

 

[Cassandro]

Feel better now?

 

[JWBooth]

Subsidize nothing. Stop picking taxpayer’s pockets to pick winners and losers.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" American School Of Economics And Congressional Role In Article 1 Section 8 "

* An Other Liberal Extremist Living In A Vacuum *

Subsidize nothing. Stop picking taxpayer’s pockets to pick winners and losers.

Tax breaks are subsidies , and no winners or losers are chosen , as tax breaks apply to the targeted objective .

The economic liberal ( economic libertarian ) promoted limited government and embraced globalism , offshoring and out sourcing of us infrastructure with indifference to us nationals , even as the privateers witlessly lulled us congress into blundering significant national interests in lithium manufacturing as crucial and lucrative infrastructure .

 

[elektra]

Whatever was said, bullshit. We dont need batteries

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Avoid elektra As Investment Advisor "

* SIASD *

Whatever was said, bullshit. We dont need batteries

. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-0105/8/9/121#Conclusions .
In this paper, it has been clearly defined the potential of redox flow batteries as a large scale energy storage system that can contribute to the transition towards a new sustainable energy paradigm. Given their remarkable merits regarding their modularity, lifespan and efficiency, RFB are now positioned as one of the most promising ESS in a wide range of applications, such as providing support to an electric grid based on renewable energies, as a buffering module in electric vehicle charging stations, and even in the green hydrogen production process. In particular, it has been established that modelling and monitoring are key topics for the development of this technology in order to make it commercially competitive.

 

[elektra]

" Avoid elektra As Investment Advisor "

* SIASD *

. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-0105/8/9/121#Conclusions .
In this paper, it has been clearly defined the potential of redox flow batteries as a large scale energy storage system that can contribute to the transition towards a new sustainable energy paradigm. Given their remarkable merits regarding their modularity, lifespan and efficiency, RFB are now positioned as one of the most promising ESS in a wide range of applications, such as providing support to an electric grid based on renewable energies, as a buffering module in electric vehicle charging stations, and even in the green hydrogen production process. In particular, it has been established that modelling and monitoring are key topics for the development of this technology in order to make it commercially competitive.

More bullahit, we can't run the future on batteries and toxic solar and wind power.
Wind and solar are products if the oil industry. They are made in refineries and must be manufactured forever.

How is endless manufacturing sustainable, it is not.

 

[egp320i]

" Should Production And Deployment Of Vanadium Redox Batteries Be Subsidized As Infrastructure ? "


* Role Of Congress For Directed Economy From American School Of Economics *

The economic libertarian us free market capitalists , interested only in selling out the interests of us nationals through globalism and short term gains , collaborated with us congress to disavow any directed economy with a comprehensive scope , which allowed CCP to corner economic markets for lithium and other rare earth minerals .

The american school of economics proposes that government through congress should play a role in facilitating crucial infrastructure which privateers are either incapable of , or disinterested in facilitating .

The american school of economics maintains goals where us is self sufficient in providing all necessary resources for its selves , with protection of lucrative and infant industries for them to become globally competitive , such that tariffs and subsidies are to be targeted .

The american school of economics suggests that tariffs , subsidies and direct procurement are available to congress ( article 1 section 8 ) as resources for directing us economy , especially to facilitate crucial infrastructure .

Thus should production and deployment of vanadium redox batteries be subsidized as crucial us infrastructure ?


* Energy Storage After Production *

. Vanadium Flow Batteries Revolutionise Energy Storage in Australia - BE&R Consulting .
Vanadium Flow Batteries Revolutionise Energy Storage in Australia
BE&R have been closely monitoring the advancement of energy storage systems, from the initial adoption of lithium-ion batteries on offshore gas platforms to the integration of battery storage in green Hydrogen and Ammonia plants. Up until now, lithium-ion technology has dominated the field due to its lightweight and responsive nature, but vanadium flow batteries are on the horizon as the next significant advancement in energy storage.
The commercial and technical potential of this integrated technology is exciting. The key take-aways were:
The 100kW solar PV (photovoltaic) panels were installed on retractable tracks, allowing them to be stowed in a 20ft sea-container in under 30 minutes, making them cost-effective and resilient for installation in storm-prone areas.
The 200 kW.hr flow battery neatly fits into a 20 ft sea-container and has a 20-year lifespan, limited only by the standard electrical inverter, not the battery itself.
Vanadium is the only significant exotic material in the battery system, providing a clear alternative to graphite, cobalt, lithium and nickel dependent battery tech.
The cost of this unit is comparable to a lithium battery pack. As technology production scales up we expect costs to plummet.
In the Pilot unit, a graphene capacitor type battery was added to test the handling of impulse loads – the short few second duration power spikes seen when starting large electrical motors.


* Go Ogle China Corners Lithium Market *
. Google Search .
Yes, China effectively "corners" the lithium market not by mining most of it, but by dominating the crucial refining, processing, and battery manufacturing stages, giving it immense control over the global supply chain, with Chinese firms investing heavily in mines worldwide and leveraging massive government support and economies of scale to control pricing and supply. This control extends from securing raw materials in places like the "Lithium Triangle" (Chile, Argentina, Bolivia) to processing over 90% of the world's graphite and two-thirds of lithium/cobalt processing capacity.
How China Gained Control:
Strategic Investment: Chinese companies, often state-backed, poured billions into acquiring lithium mines and processing facilities globally (Africa, South America, Australia) even when demand was lower.
Government Subsidies: The Chinese government provided massive subsidies, tax breaks, and rebates to build up its domestic refining and battery industries ahead of global demand, say sources like the Atlantic Council.
Processing Dominance: China's near-monopoly on refining capacity allows it to process raw lithium from other nations (like Australia) into battery-grade materials, creating dependency.
Battery Manufacturing Hub: As the world's largest battery producer, China leverages its control over raw materials and processing to optimize battery costs, particularly for LFP batteries, say sources from the CRU Group.
Impact on the Market:
Supply Chain Vulnerability: Western nations, heavily reliant on Chinese-processed materials, are exposed to potential disruptions, prompting efforts to build alternative supply chains, notes the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Price Volatility: Chinese market actions, like output changes or even export controls, can trigger significant price swings in the volatile lithium market, according to the National Association of Manufacturers - NAM and other sources.
Strategic Advantage: Beijing uses its control to counter Western policies (like the U.S. IRA) and secure its own technology edge in the green energy transition, according to the Atlantic Council.
In essence, China controls the value-added steps, making it a central player that dictates terms for the entire global battery and EV industry, notes the National Association of Manufacturers - NAM.

* Vanadium Redox Batteries Wikipedia Review *
. Vanadium redox battery - Wikipedia .
The vanadium redox battery (VRB), also known as the vanadium flow battery (VFB) or vanadium redox flow battery (VRFB), is a type of rechargeable flow battery which employs vanadium ions as charge carriers.[5] The battery uses vanadium's ability to exist in a solution in four different oxidation states to make a battery with a single electroactive element instead of two.[6]
For several reasons, including their relative bulkiness, vanadium batteries are typically used for grid energy storage, i.e., attached to power plants/electrical grids.[7]
Numerous companies and organizations are involved in funding and developing vanadium redox batteries.

VRFBs' main advantages over other types of battery:[21]
energy capacity and power capacity are decoupled and can be scaled separately
energy capacity is obtained from the storage of liquid electrolytes rather than the cell itself
power capacity can be increased by adding more cells
can remain discharged indefinitely without damage
mixing electrolytes causes no permanent damage
single charge state across the electrolytes avoids capacity degradation
safe, non-flammable aqueous electrolyte
no noise or emissions
wide operating temperature range including passive cooling[22][23]
long charge/discharge cycle lives: 15,000-20,000 cycles and 10–20 years.
low levelized cost: (a few tens of cents), approaching the 2016 $0.05 target stated by the United States Department of Energy and the European Commission Strategic Energy Technology Plan €0.05 target.[24]

VRFBs' main disadvantages compared to other types of battery:[21]
high and volatile prices of vanadium minerals (i.e. the cost of VRFB energy)
relatively poor round trip efficiency (compared to lithium-ion batteries)
heavy weight of aqueous electrolyte
relatively poor energy-to-volume ratio compared to standard storage batteries
having moving parts in the pumps that produce the flow of electrolyte solution
toxicity of vanadium (V) compounds.

vanadium is a very rare earth metal, to ramp that up they are going to need to tear the shit out of a many places and cause major environmental damage

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Data Center And Power Grid Clueless "

* Battery Backup Required For Data Centers *

More bullahit, we can't run the future on batteries and toxic solar and wind power.
Wind and solar are products if the oil industry. They are made in refineries and must be manufactured forever.
How is endless manufacturing sustainable, it is not.

Battery storage is a critical element of all energy production , whether traditional , renewable , or alternative , which are greatly benefited by vanadium redox batteries .

Even hardened data centers such as the artificial intelligence data centers being engineered and constructed will have significant energy requirements and will need fail over systems , which are far more deep cell than solid state batteries or gas generators .

* Billion Degrees Requirement *

. Trump Media to merge with fusion startup TAE Technologies in $6B deal .
According to the companies, the merger will create one of the world’s first publicly traded fusion companies. The combined companies plan to site and begin construction on a 50-MWe utility-scale fusion power plant in 2026, subject to regulatory approval.
. TAE Technologies - Wikipedia .
An essential component of the design is the use of "advanced fuels", i.e. fuels with primary reactions that do not produce neutrons, such as hydrogen and boron-11.
...
The Da Vinci device is a proposed successor device to Copernicus, and a prototype for a commercially scalable reactor. It was scheduled to be developed in the second half of the 2020s and to achieve 3 billion°C and produce fusion energy.[98]
* Renewable Energy Addresses Toxicity And Carbon Footprint *

The term renewable and green energy are often confused , as the basis of renewable energy the reuse the materials in environmentally friendly ways , often to rebuild structures that decay due to stress , whereas green energy refers to initial infrastructure of wind and solar that could not be renewed .

 

[elektra]

" Data Center And Power Grid Clueless "

* Battery Backup Required For Data Centers *

Battery storage is a critical element of all energy production , whether traditional , renewable , or alternative , which are greatly benefited by vanadium redox batteries .

Even hardened data centers such as the artificial intelligence data centers being engineered and constructed will have significant energy requirements and will need fail over systems , which are far more deep cell than solid state batteries or gas generators .

* Billion Degrees Requirement *

. Trump Media to merge with fusion startup TAE Technologies in $6B deal .
According to the companies, the merger will create one of the world’s first publicly traded fusion companies. The combined companies plan to site and begin construction on a 50-MWe utility-scale fusion power plant in 2026, subject to regulatory approval.
. TAE Technologies - Wikipedia .
An essential component of the design is the use of "advanced fuels", i.e. fuels with primary reactions that do not produce neutrons, such as hydrogen and boron-11.
...
The Da Vinci device is a proposed successor device to Copernicus, and a prototype for a commercially scalable reactor. It was scheduled to be developed in the second half of the 2020s and to achieve 3 billion°C and produce fusion energy.[98]
* Renewable Energy Addresses Toxicity And Carbon Footprint *

The term renewable and green energy are often confused , as the basis of renewable energy the reuse the materials in environmentally friendly ways , often to rebuild structures that decay due to stress , whereas green energy refers to initial infrastructure of wind and solar that could not be renewed .

Battery storage is not a critical element of Nuclear Power. There is no Battery that is able to store one hours worth of the electricity produced by a Nuclear Power Plant.

There is no need for battery storage, we have all the power we need, from Nuclear Power Plants. All, just got to start building them again, and we have.

The future is Nuclear Power, not your google search. Google, remember when Google took billions from us tax payers to build Ivanpah. Robbery of the taxpayer which you are calling for again.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Once Acquired No Need To Replenish "

* They Are Extracting And Implementing With Or Without Ewe *

vanadium is a very rare earth metal, to ramp that up they are going to need to tear the shit out of a many places and cause major environmental damage

. Vanadium - Wikipedia .
Vanadium occurs naturally in about 65 minerals and fossil fuel deposits. It is produced in China and Russia from steel smelter slag. Other countries produce it either from magnetite directly, flue dust of heavy oil, or as a byproduct of uranium mining. It is mainly used to produce specialty steel alloys such as high-speed tool steels, and some aluminium alloys. The most important industrial vanadium compound, vanadium pentoxide, is used as a catalyst for the production of sulfuric acid. The vanadium redox battery for energy storage may be an important application in the future.


. https://www.esmap.org/sites/default/files/2022/ESP Pretoria 2023/D2, Session 4, Mike Niszl.pdf .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Nihilism Mayhem Pilots "

* Nuclear Wish Wash *

Battery storage is not a critical element of Nuclear Power. There is no Battery that is able to store one hours worth of the electricity produced by a Nuclear Power Plant.
There is no need for battery storage, we have all the power we need, from Nuclear Power Plants. All, just got to start building them again, and we have.
The future is Nuclear Power, not your google search. Google, remember when Google took billions from us tax payers to build Ivanpah. Robbery of the taxpayer which you are calling for again.

Nuclear fission , nuclear fusion , or nuclear fusion without neutrons , because only stupidity promotes fission and then complains about environment ?

 

[elektra]

" Nihilism Mayhem Pilots "

* Nuclear Wish Wash *

Nuclear fission , nuclear fusion , or nuclear fusion without neutrons , because only stupidity promotes fission and then complains about environment ?

Only a moron does not realize that Wacker chemical builds solar panels in Cleveland Tennessee because they need the power of Sequoya Nuclear power plant.

Solar Panels, Wind Turbines are built at chemical refineries which only run on nuclear fossil and specifically coal energy.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Old Fart Fossils "

* Evolution To Self Sufficiency Continues Without Dumb Us Policy *

Only a moron does not realize that Wacker chemical builds solar panels in Cleveland Tennessee because they need the power of Sequoya Nuclear power plant.
Solar Panels, Wind Turbines are built at chemical refineries which only run on nuclear fossil and specifically coal energy.

Eventually renewable energy infrastructure will not need nuclear or fossil fuels .

The cancelling of renewable energy policies in the us simply abdicated superiority to every other country competing for those products and services .

. The energy world is set to change significantly by 2030, based on today’s policy settings alone - News - IEA ,

The latest edition of the World Energy Outlook (WEO), the most authoritative global source of energy analysis and projections, describes an energy system in 2030 in which clean technologies play a significantly greater role than today. This includes almost 10 times as many electric cars on the road worldwide; solar PV generating more electricity than the entire US power system does currently; renewables’ share of the global electricity mix nearing 50%, up from around 30% today; heat pumps and other electric heating systems outselling fossil fuel boilers globally; and three times as much investment going into new offshore wind projects than into new coal- and gas-fired power plants.

https://www.science.org/content/article/breakthrough-2025

China’s mighty industrial engine is the driver. After years of patiently nurturing the sector through subsidies, China now dominates global production of renewable energy technologies. It makes 80% of the world’s solar cells, 70% of its wind turbines, and 70% of its lithium batteries, at prices no competitor can match.

 

[elektra]

Eventually renewable energy infrastructure will not need nuclear or fossil fuels .

Hahaha, everything you advocate for requires to be built forever. Renewable energy is forever manufacturing, by the chemical industry.

Why do you think renewables demand over $300 trillion in investments.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Red Herring Flashy Lights "

* Mythological Evolution Of Process Development *

Hahaha, everything you advocate for requires to be built forever. Renewable energy is forever manufacturing, by the chemical industry.

Oh , darn , and here we were thinking renewable energy infrastructure was created ex nihilo , like claims by theists to invoke the authority of their own opinion .

* If Amish Determined The Future Of Energy Technology *

Why do you think renewables demand over $300 trillion in investments. View attachment 1196276

Apparently the saying that one has to spend money to make money must be a deceitful lie !

. Brave Search .
In 2024, global investment in the energy transition reached $807 billion, a significant increase from the $662 billion average between 2022 and 2023. Electric vehicles (EVs) and solar power were the two largest investment categories, together driving 55% of total spending that year. China accounted for 49% of global investment in battery electric vehicles in 2024, supported by government policies. Additionally, nearly 1.8 million EV charging points were installed worldwide in 2024, more than the rest of the world combined.

In the United States, renewable energy consumption accounted for about 21% of total electricity generation in 2023, with the electric power sector responsible for about 39% of total U.S. renewable energy consumption. The U.S. is projected to see continued growth in renewable energy consumption, with renewables expected to make up 35% of electricity generation by 2030, primarily driven by wind and solar expansion. The U.S. has a vast technical potential for renewable energy—estimated at 463,400 TWh, over 100 times the electricity consumed in 2020—but less than 1% of this potential is currently utilized.

 

[elektra]

Apparently the saying that one has to spend money to make money must be a deceitful lie !

Uh, the government spending taxpayer money does not make money, it takes money from us.

What you think really dont matter. The future is pure nuclear power.

Renewables have failed, trillions of dollars lost.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Congress Lulled Into Complacency And Aimless Economic Roles *

* Makes Money When It Makes Sense *

Uh, the government spending taxpayer money does not make money, it takes money from us.

The economic libertarians , aka economic liberals , for free market capitalism sold out interests of us nationals to the lowest bidder through offshoring , outsourcing and globalism , so how is that working out ?

If one were actually concerned with how tax moneys are spent , then disproportionate benefits of selective endowment to contractors at contractor rates would be a compelling interest , while taxpayers are duped into believing that the benefits received from contractor products and services is of commensurate benefit .

Were the selective endowments to el on , through democrat trickle down theory , for adding charging stations , along with tax credits of subsidies for renewable energy , a commensurate benefit to every us citizens ?

. Public Private Trust .

The american school of economics directs that government , via congress in article 1 section 8 of us constitution , has a role and responsibility in directing the us economy for its general welfare , whether through tariffs , subsidies or direct contracts , so that the us in self sufficient , so as to nurture infant industry for the us to be globally competitive , especially for facilitating crucial infrastructure when privateers interested only in short term gains are not capable of or are disinclined to do so .

Investments by government causes inflation through fluidity and availability of money supply , whether by tax credits , tariffs , or direct spending , however keynesianism relates that during a recession , targeted investments may be needed to cause economic growth , while concern for extent and return on investment are contentious .

, CDZ - How Consistent With American School Economics Should Current Administration Public Policy Be ? .

. Globalism Of Neoclassical Economics Versus Nationalism Of American School Of Economics .

* Renewable Energy Investments Have Not Been Lost *

What you think really dont matter. The future is pure nuclear power.
Renewables have failed, trillions of dollars lost.

Renewable energy has not failed , it is the future of energy development , and while climate change deniers have been duped into perceiving that renewable energy and climate change are the same rather than separate issues .

When fusion is proven then make it happen , while fission is dumb .

 

[elektra]

Renewable energy has not failed , it is the future of energy development

Yes, renewables have failed. Ask Germany, their industry is bankrupt, much of it moving to the USA

California has to import 40% of it's power, cant keep up with demand waiting for the sun to shine or the wind to blow

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Continued And Steady Is Best "

* German Counter Productive Plans Are Not An Excuse *

Yes, renewables have failed. Ask Germany, their industry is bankrupt, much of it moving to the USA
California has to import 40% of it's power, cant keep up with demand waiting for the sun to shine or the wind to blow

The german plan forcibly phased out nuclear too readily , and tried to do the same for fossil , that caused setbacks and elevated costs , but that does not mean continuation of incentives and plans to facilitate renewable energy did not make sense and should be abandoned .

The us tax credits did not force removal of nuclear or fossil , but removing the tax credits from installation , to manufacturing , to automotive , based on poor planning by germany , without an incentive for preference , is ignorant .

Energiewende - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On 1 January 2025 Germany produced 120% of its energy demand with renewables.[120][121] During 2024 Germany added 3 GW of wind energy and 15 GW of solar. In 2024, 54% of Germany's energy demand was produced by renewables.[120]

. Brave Search .

Renewable energy sources in the United States are manufactured across various states, with significant growth in domestic production, particularly in solar technology. In 2024, domestic manufacturing of solar modules surpassed 50 GW, meeting all existing U.S. solar demand, with new or expanded facilities located in Alabama, Florida, Ohio, and Texas. Additionally, manufacturing of silicon cells for solar resumed in the U.S. in 2024 for the first time since 2019, marking a resurgence in the domestic solar supply chain. These developments have been driven by tax credits under the Inflation Reduction Act, which has led to at least 160 clean energy manufacturing facilities or expansions announced since August 2022, with 47 announced in 2024 alone. While the provided information focuses on solar manufacturing, the broader renewable energy sector includes wind, geothermal, and biomass, though specific manufacturing locations for these are not detailed in the sources.

. Brave Search .

Wind renewable energy sources in the United States are manufactured across multiple states, with significant production facilities concentrated in key regions. The U.S. wind industry supply chain includes eight utility-scale blade facilities, nine tower facilities, and four turbine nacelle assembly facilities, with manufacturing occurring in 43 states. Ohio leads with over 60 wind-related manufacturing facilities, followed by Texas, Illinois, North Carolina, and Michigan.

Additionally, the domestic content of wind turbines installed in the U.S. is high, with over 85% of nacelle assembly and 80–85% of tower manufacturing occurring domestically. Blades and hubs also have strong domestic content, estimated between 50% and 70%. The expansion of manufacturing capacity continues, with companies like GRI Renewable Industries building new tower plants in Texas and Jupiter Composites expanding its nacelle cover facility in Florida to meet growing demand.