Should Jerusalem be made an international city?

[Wonky Pundit]

Considering that three major religions claim holy sites there?

 

[HistoryBefore67]

No.

 

[MHunterB]

Considering the track record of two of those religions' adherents regarding access afforded to 'others' - absolutely not.

The *control of* various holy sites within Jerusalem is already parceled out among various different religious groups.

 

[Kondor3]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

 

[Hossfly]

Jerusalem is the undivided City Of David. No question about it.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Yes.

We all believe that besides some Jewish people and some American Christians. Other than that, most of the world would support it as an international city.

 

[pbel]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

 

[hjmick]

No.

 

[toastman]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

And how will these 400 million Arabs attain their goal of capturing Jerusalem ??

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

Then there's the argument that, if it were an international city, it could make a long-term peace agreement easier.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

Then there's the argument that, if it were an international city, it could make a long-term peace agreement easier.

Yes it could, especially since Israel won't agree to an east Jerusalem as a Palestinain capital, an international city under international regulation could prove to open gates to big aspect of a peace agreement. An international factor gives hope for some hopeless people on both sides. Even some Israelis support such a condition.

 

[Trajan]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

humm, I have to ask for some verification of the bolded section please.


and as the the afore mentioned segment- a) of course they knew they would win (???), b) preemptive as in say closing the straits of Tiran? c) ever heard of the Egyptian war plan called "The Dawn"...and how that wound up?

 

[Kondor3]

Direct Muslim control over East Jerusalem in the period 1948-1967 did absolutely nothing to facilitate a lasting Peace Agreement; consequently...

There is no logical reason to assume that simply shifting control from the Israelis to an international force would have the desired effect.

 

[Trajan]

Considering that three major religions claim holy sites there?

absolutely not.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Considering that three major religions claim holy sites there?

absolutely not.

Really? Explain, hotshot.

 

[Trajan]

Considering that three major religions claim holy sites there?

absolutely not.

Really? Explain, hotshot.

no problem hotsnot......

first why again?


peace? as if....

tell you what, keep the rest, ask the muslims to give up the dome of the rock, its sitting on the temple, let the jews rebuild the temple, hey just because they got the land, doesn't mean they have a right to it...right?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

absolutely not.

Really? Explain, hotshot.

no problem hotsnot......

first why again?


peace? as if....

tell you what, keep the rest, ask the muslims to give up the dome of the rock, its sitting on the temple, let the jews rebuild the temple, hey just because they got the land, doesn't mean they have a right to it...right?

Nice diversion, *****. You claimed the three major Abrahamic religions don't claim holy sites in Jerusalem. Or am I wrong? .....

 

[pbel]

Nope.

The Israelis won it back fair-and-square in 1967.

The Jews had it taken from them in 70 A.D. and waited a long time to get it back... some 1,900 years...

Time to share and play nice with others... let the Jews have it for a few centuries... it's their turn anyway.

And, given that they took it back by force-of-arms, as part of an overall defensive war, against rather alarming odds, after their enemies had massed troops to attack them simultaneously on all sides...

Vae victus.

Israel's pre-emptive strike was a land grab because she had more than all the Arab Armies soldiers on all fronts...Even PM Begin admitted thus.

Sure, she may have it for a while...but 400 million Arabs will eventually get it back by war or demographics...only a peace deal accepted by the UN, the Arabs and Israel can avert the inevitable.

And how will these 400 million Arabs attain their goal of capturing Jerusalem ??

If there is anything certain is that in a war of attrition or Arab Resistance will eventually wear out an occupier like they have with the Christian Crusades, the Turks, the Brits, Israel…Time is their ally and the vastly numerical advantage assures victory…Look at US or Russian Invasions: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan…Technological weapons are no match for boots on the ground…Tiny Israel can only stretch manpower so far…

History has shown this to be true.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Considering that three major religions claim holy sites there?

Should the inside of your skull be declared a disaster area?

1. Can you give me a list of other international cities?
2. What the **** is an international city?
3. Where did you learn to count?

 

[Hossfly]

Really? Explain, hotshot.

no problem hotsnot......

first why again?


peace? as if....

tell you what, keep the rest, ask the muslims to give up the dome of the rock, its sitting on the temple, let the jews rebuild the temple, hey just because they got the land, doesn't mean they have a right to it...right?

Nice diversion, *****. You claimed the three major Abrahamic religions don't claim holy sites in Jerusalem. Or am I wrong? .....

I wonder if this cleric can be set straight by someone who is an Arab Muslim.

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