Should He or Not?

[froggy]

Mark McGwire's steroids confession is fine, but he should never go to the Hall of Fame. Whats you opinion?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes...but before Barry Bonds.

Steriods only gave him a few more feet. He would have hit most of the HR anyway.He easily cleared the fence on almost every one of them. Steriods didn't make much of a difference. Half of his at bats that year were walks anyway...trying to keep him from hitting the damned things.

Bonds wasn't an HR hitter till he got on the juice so it effected him more.

 

[froggy]

Yes...but before Barry Bonds.

Steriods only gave him a few more feet. He would have hit most of the HR anyway.He easily cleared the fence on almost every one of them. Steriods didn't make much of a difference. Half of his at bats that year were walks anyway...trying to keep him from hitting the damned things.

Bonds wasn't an HR hitter till he got on the juice so it effected him more.

But they claim steriods give you faster eyesight.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes...but before Barry Bonds.

Steriods only gave him a few more feet. He would have hit most of the HR anyway.He easily cleared the fence on almost every one of them. Steriods didn't make much of a difference. Half of his at bats that year were walks anyway...trying to keep him from hitting the damned things.

Bonds wasn't an HR hitter till he got on the juice so it effected him more.

His Homeruns jumped by over 20 per year..

He cheated and stole games from other teams....never let him in

 

[Harry Dresden]

look at the history of hitting 50 hr's....
every decade since Ruth first hit 50,there have been 2-4 guys a decade reaching 50....the seventies only once,the eighties no one did....something like 18 times from 1923 til 1989....in the nineties that number was exceeded....in just a 10 year period.....guys who never hit 40 (Bonds,Sosa) were now hitting 60-70 .....

 

[dink]

No he should not.

 

[uscitizen]

no he should not. Just for his lying about it for a decade or so if for nothing else.

 

[Fayebelle]

Really though - a cheat is a cheat - just the same he'll prob get in eventually BUT PETE ROSE BETTER GO FIRST!!!

 

[concept]

No he shouldn't.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

No.

 

[Xenophon]

Mark refuses to admit roids enhanched his stats.

He claims 'it just made me healthy.'

He didn't belong in the hall before roids and he sure doesn't belong after.

 

[saveliberty]

They are called performance drugs. He doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame and he should be no more than a little astrisk on the bottom of the records page. Marion Jones goes to jail and loses her medals. This guy owes a lot of sports viewers their ticket money back at a minimum.

 

[Emma]

But he cried and stuff!

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes...but before Barry Bonds.

Steriods only gave him a few more feet. He would have hit most of the HR anyway.He easily cleared the fence on almost every one of them. Steriods didn't make much of a difference. Half of his at bats that year were walks anyway...trying to keep him from hitting the damned things.

Bonds wasn't an HR hitter till he got on the juice so it effected him more.

His Homeruns jumped by over 20 per year..

He cheated and stole games from other teams....never let him in

You have to take everything into account. He also led the league in walks so because he was hitting so well he was given fewer chances to hit one out. I think it all evens out. Mark had such a fast swing that most of those hits were leaving the park anyway if he got solid contact and steroids don't improve hand to eye coordination. Mark averaged around 50 HRs a year so he most likely would have hit alot of them plus I think his career would have been longer if he hadn't taken the stuff.

Mike Schmidt was on Amphetamines and he's in. I think Mark should be too. Bonds has the single season HR title now so Mark has no record to take away, so that isn't an issue. When it comes to the record Rodger Marris should still have the record for his era because he played fewer games.

 

[Joe Steel]

Baseball is a business and players are entertainers. McGwire earned a lot of money for the owner so why shouldn't he be honored for it.

The real problem is placing importance on membership in the Hall of Fame. Its members don't peform any great service for humanity. They're just entertainers.

 

[Big Black Dog]

New sports motto: "If you can't beat 'em, cheat 'em."

 

[Navy1960]

All the players that hold records while using those drugs should not be allowed into the Hall, because while breaking those records they were also cheating the game. It's no different than breaking records using a "corked" bat and finally someone discovers you did such a thing and still lets your records stand. It rewards the fact that the person enhanced their abilities beyond what they would have been and dishonors all those other members of baseball that spent years playing within the rules. Baseball at the beginning of the 20th century when members of the Chicago White Sox were caught cheating banned them for life from the game because they stole from the game. Players like Bonds, McGwire, and others should never be considered for entry into the Hall nor should their records be even considered records . That said, unlike Landis back when Joe Jackson was banned from the game , perhaps the best thing here is to accept the apology from those who wish to do so, erase the records, clean up the game, and consider the "cheating era" members in the same pathetic light that the CHicago Black Sox are.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Really though - a cheat is a cheat - just the same he'll prob get in eventually BUT PETE ROSE BETTER GO FIRST!!!

and joe jackson...

 

[Harry Dresden]

You have to take everything into account. He also led the league in walks so because he was hitting so well he was given fewer chances to hit one out. I think it all evens out. Mark had such a fast swing that most of those hits were leaving the park anyway if he got solid contact and steroids don't improve hand to eye coordination. Mark averaged around 50 HRs a year so he most likely would have hit alot of them plus I think his career would have been longer if he hadn't taken the stuff.

Mike Schmidt was on Amphetamines and he's in. I think Mark should be too. Bonds has the single season HR title now so Mark has no record to take away, so that isn't an issue. When it comes to the record Rodger Marris should still have the record for his era because he played fewer games.

Mud....Mark averaged 27 hrs a year from 86-95....with a high of 49....reaching forty twice....that was in his prime years....then the roids kicked in...from 96-01 he averaged 60 a year....reaching 50 4 of those years .....Bonds and Sosa are even more amazing...guys get better but not that much....something was in play here...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Baseball is a business and players are entertainers. McGwire earned a lot of money for the owner so why shouldn't he be honored for it.

The real problem is placing importance on membership in the Hall of Fame. Its members don't peform any great service for humanity. They're just entertainers.

which is exactly the "new" attitude todays athletes have........"you want my autograph kid?....100 bucks.... prima donnas.....