Shootings in gun controlled Canada...

[2aguy]

No, their culture kept the murder rate low....now that they have Mexican drug cartels running their drug gangs, their shootings are going up....

Laugh all you want...their culture is changing and their increasing violence is a result.

 

[BULLDOG]

Growing.

Well as more guns enter circulation, of course it's going to grow

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....

Please explain this.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

They kill a few each year. We kill 10s of thousands. We should do what they are doing.

 

[Augustine_]

Growing.

Well as more guns enter circulation, of course it's going to grow

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....

Please explain this.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Less guns per household. By a lot.

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

 

[BULLDOG]

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....
Please explain this.....
Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

They can't.
Gun grabbers and liberty snatchers are hyper allergic to facts.

But they love to hug and hump dictators boots.

You mean like our orange wanna be dictator who threatened to withhold aid unless a foreign government could produce dirt on his political opponent? You mean that kind of dictator?

 

[Augustine_]

No, their culture kept the murder rate low....now that they have Mexican drug cartels running their drug gangs, their shootings are going up....

Laugh all you want...their culture is changing and their increasing violence is a result.

Oooooh so this whole thread is a just a veiled argument against brown people. Gotcha.

 

[BULLDOG]

No, their culture kept the murder rate low....now that they have Mexican drug cartels running their drug gangs, their shootings are going up....

Laugh all you want...their culture is changing and their increasing violence is a result.

Oooooh so this whole thread is a just a veiled argument against brown people. Gotcha.

Not veiled very much.

 

[2aguy]

Well as more guns enter circulation, of course it's going to grow

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....

Please explain this.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Less guns per household. By a lot.

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

 

[pismoe]

London, Birmingham, Manchester are all violent crime ridden cesspools. You've never been there have you?
The difference in gun crime is FAR offset by stabbings, acid attacks, rapes, robberies and assaults.

Downtown NewYork City is safer.

Yet gun control seems to be working just fine.

----------------------------------------- and the 'english subjects' are 'subject' waiting to be stabbed and murdered Bulldog .

 

[2aguy]

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....
Please explain this.....
Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

They can't.
Gun grabbers and liberty snatchers are hyper allergic to facts.

But they love to hug and hump dictators boots.

You mean like our orange wanna be dictator who threatened to withhold aid unless a foreign government could produce dirt on his political opponent? You mean that kind of dictator?

And yet, that didn't happen......

 

[Augustine_]

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....

Please explain this.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Less guns per household. By a lot.

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

Obviously not. I wonder how many more hours until the next mass shooting.

 

[2aguy]

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....

Please explain this.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Less guns per household. By a lot.

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

Obviously not. I wonder how many more hours until the next mass shooting.

How many hours till the next law abiding American uses a gun to save a life....Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent rapes, robberies and murder.....saving lives....this, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

 

[pismoe]

its really simple as both 'gov' and Bulldog and Beto types know and understand the true purpose of Americans being armed with efficient and effective guns and Small Arms owned by Americans and they don't like that reality .

 

[BULLDOG]

London, Birmingham, Manchester are all violent crime ridden cesspools. You've never been there have you?
The difference in gun crime is FAR offset by stabbings, acid attacks, rapes, robberies and assaults.

Downtown NewYork City is safer.

Yet gun control seems to be working just fine.

----------------------------------------- and the 'english subjects' are 'subject' waiting to be stabbed and murdered Bulldog .

How long have you had these hallucinations?

 

[Augustine_]

Less guns per household. By a lot.

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

Obviously not. I wonder how many more hours until the next mass shooting.

How many hours till the next law abiding American uses a gun to save a life....Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent rapes, robberies and murder.....saving lives....this, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

They also have lots of statistics you hate about guns. I'll side with the countries that embrace gun control and have faaaar smaller rates of gun crime and homicide than we do.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Yep.....as socialism destroys the nuclear family, young males in fatherless homes resort to violence and crime....

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-shootings-1.5290811

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, post hoc fallacy, and confirmation bias fallacy – it’s a sophistry hat trick.

 

[BULLDOG]

No.....actual experience over 26 years shows you are wrong.....
Please explain this.....
Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

They can't.
Gun grabbers and liberty snatchers are hyper allergic to facts.

But they love to hug and hump dictators boots.

You mean like our orange wanna be dictator who threatened to withhold aid unless a foreign government could produce dirt on his political opponent? You mean that kind of dictator?

And yet, that didn't happen......

Typical gun nut Trump supporter. You lie almost as much as he does.

 

[2aguy]

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

Obviously not. I wonder how many more hours until the next mass shooting.

How many hours till the next law abiding American uses a gun to save a life....Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent rapes, robberies and murder.....saving lives....this, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

They also have lots of statistics you hate about guns. I'll side with the countries that embrace gun control and have faaaar smaller rates of gun crime and homicide than we do.

You really think that crime stays the same? You are really dumb.

 

[2aguy]

No....again, you are wrong...

UPDATED: Correcting Gun Control false claims about "America’s unique gun violence problem" and "How to Reduce Shootings" - Crime Prevention Research Center

“32% of households have guns”

In another example of bias, the Times claims that only 32% of American households own guns. That number comes from the General Social Survey (GSS), but it is an outlier. A March 2018 poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal estimates that 47% of households own guns, with another 3% declining to answer. A Monmouth University Poll on March 2-5, 2018 asked: “Do you or anyone in your household own a gun, rifle, or pistol?” With 46% saying “yes” and another 7% unsure or refusing to answer, it is quite plausible that half of all households own guns.

Fraudulent source admitting their entire argument is based on assumptions. Truth is while gun nuts are stockpiling more and more, there are less households with guns, and as a result of gun nut flooding there are more guns unaccounted for in the streets.

Boy, you really are just another dumb anti-gunner......you know....were all stocked up on anti-gunner doofuses......

Obviously not. I wonder how many more hours until the next mass shooting.

How many hours till the next law abiding American uses a gun to save a life....Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent rapes, robberies and murder.....saving lives....this, according to the Centers for Disease Control.

They also have lots of statistics you hate about guns. I'll side with the countries that embrace gun control and have faaaar smaller rates of gun crime and homicide than we do.

No, they really don't....

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1#ii


Defensive Use of Guns
Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a),
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[Augustine_]

You really think that crime stays the same?

I never said that. Are you okay? What does that even mean?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Yep.....as socialism destroys the nuclear family, young males in fatherless homes resort to violence and crime....

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-shootings-1.5290811

Actually Trudeau is running on making gun control stricter in Canada, so many do not know the laws up there and should read up on them...