Shohei leads off with a home run and pitches 5 shutout innings. Ruth never did that.

[Oklahoma Journalist]

if ruth played in another decade like the 30's or today he would not be so dominate....

Ah, yes; the old sour grapes of “if this and if that.” I deal in reality, not armchair speculation.

 

[Oklahoma Journalist]

It’s laughable to criticize a player for playing well in his era. You play in the environment presented to you, not in the era presented by armchair forum goobers.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Disagree but good to think about

why do you disagree?....there is a reason pitchers won 30 games in the dead ball era...

 

[Harry Dresden]

Oh come on. Ruth was a beast for his time, but he was seeing 85 mph "fast balls" at best.

yep....

 

[Harry Dresden]

And he still swatted them out of the ballpark.

new type of ball....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Smoky Joe Wood, Walter Johnson? You don't know baseball.

very few pitchers reached 90+ in those days...do you know baseball?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Ah, yes; the old sour grapes of “if this and if that.” I deal in reality, not armchair speculation.

prove me wrong?....just in the 1930s there were many players hitting HR's like ruth was doing.....he wouldnt have looked so dominate...plus the pitching was better...

 

[Harry Dresden]

It’s laughable to criticize a player for playing well in his era. You play in the environment presented to you, not in the era presented by armchair forum goobers.

no one is criticizing ruth for playing well...the guy probably saved baseball...

 

[MarathonMike]

It’s laughable to criticize a player for playing well in his era. You play in the environment presented to you, not in the era presented by armchair forum goobers.

It isn't criticism to call it like it was. No one including me diminishes Ruth in his era. He clearly stood head and shoulders over his peers. But the facts are the facts. He threw slower and saw slower pitches than Ohtani.

 

[MarathonMike]

very few pitchers reached 90+ in those days...do you know baseball?....

Quite possibly none of them threw over 90, including Ruth.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Quite possibly none of them threw over 90, including Ruth.

they claim walter johnsons fast ball reached 90 by analyzing him on film...

 

[MarathonMike]

they claim walter johnsons fast ball reached 90 by analyzing him on film...

I read that also, but he might have been the ONLY pitcher throwing 90 in the Ruth Era.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And he still swatted them out of the ballpark.

Like high schoolers do, with 85 mph fastballs

 

[Meister]

if ruth played in another decade like the 30's or today he would not be so dominate....

So true, training has changed into a science from then to now.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I read that also, but he might have been the ONLY pitcher throwing 90 in the Ruth Era.

he was already past his prime then,i thought i saw the year was 1915?..when they "clocked" him,he was 27 then.... .....

 

[Harry Dresden]

So true, training has changed into a science from then to now.

im sure the money they can make today helps....780 thousand a year minimum pay as long as your on the big team...

 

[jacksonlamb]

It isn't criticism to call it like it was. No one including me diminishes Ruth in his era. He clearly stood head and shoulders over his peers. But the facts are the facts. He threw slower and saw slower pitches than Ohtani.

He played 15 years, his prime hitting years in the 20s and 30s.