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Shariah courts in America

We're sleepwalking toward Britain's outcome, or worse
1 Dec 2025 ~~ By Peter McIlvenna

They are not coming. They are already here.
Across the United States, Islamic arbitration bodies quietly handle hundreds of family law cases each year — marriage, divorce, custody, inheritance — behind closed doors, with no transcripts, no appeals and no public oversight. All-male panels apply traditional Shariah rules to 21st-century American women and children.
The Islamic Tribunal of Dallas was founded in 2014 as a “volunteer mediation service.” By 2024, it was deciding roughly 300 cases annually in mosque back rooms and law offices. The panel of three or four male scholars, trained at institutions such as Al-Azhar and Omdurman, openly follows rules in which a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s in financial and inheritance matters. Women report being pressured to accept religious divorces that strip them of their mahr (dowry) and leave them financially devastated.
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The North American Islamic Trust owns title to 300 to 325 U.S. mosques, more than 11% of the U.S. total. When disputes arise inside those mosques — divorces, estates, leadership fights — local trust-affiliated imams become the de facto judges. There is no signed arbitration agreement, no neutral venue, no American lawyer reviewing decisions for compliance with U.S. law. Daughters routinely receive half the inheritance of their brothers, as prescribed in Surah An-Nisa. Wives are told that taking the case to a “kafir” (“infidel”) court is forbidden.
The real enforcement is social ostracism: loss of your family, your children’s place in the community, your entire support network. Because these rulings stay outside the Federal Arbitration Act, secular courts hardly ever see the paperwork — or the victims.
The Ismaili Conciliation and Arbitration Board was established in 1986 by the Aga Khan. It has a written constitution, trained mediators (some Western-educated lawyers) and public commitments to gender equality. Yet proceedings remain strictly confidential, rulings are never published, and former members, especially women in transnational marriages, describe being steered toward settlements far weaker than any U.S. family court would allow. The pressure is polite but relentless: Accept less or risk exile from the tight-knit global Ismaili community you were born into.
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America is following the same script, only faster. Legal Muslim immigration to the U.S. has exceeded 100,000 annually for more than a decade, supplemented by illegal crossings and asylum claims. Every new mosque and enclave strengthens the infrastructure for private Islamic justice. The same soothing arguments that paralyzed Britain — “It’s voluntary” and “Secular courts are always available” — are repeated here by academics and interfaith groups.
This is not fearmongering; it is pattern recognition. Britain waited 40 years and ended up with 85 Shariah councils. America has the same ingredients, faster demographic change and even less political will to act.
The parallel system is already growing. The only question left is whether we still have the courage to stop it before “voluntary” becomes permanent.


Commentary:
Wondering when Sharia law imposes the tossing gays off high buildings, in Dearborn, the twin Cities, and New York?
Muslims are not in America to be Americans! They do not assimilate into Society, and refuse to obey the laws of the infidels.
Muslims are in America to convert. kill and impose Sharia Law throughout America!
Someone previous mentioned how well and good Lebanon is.. That's only if you reach yo pre World War II and to before Syria and Iran became powerful in the M.E.
Lebanon was the city of lights.
Lebanon, once known for its stunning landscapes, vibrant culture, and rich history, has faced significant turmoil in recent years. The capital, Beirut, was often celebrated as the "Paris of the Middle East" due to its lively atmosphere, beautiful architecture, and bustling nightlife. However, ongoing political instability, economic collapse, and social unrest have deeply affected the country.
Today Lebanon is controlled by Hezbollah Muslim terrorists.
This is how the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslims in general operate and it's happening in th UK as you read this.
 
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Sounds a lot like the Amish system. Do you want to ban the Amish too?
There are no Amish honor killings. The Amish are not forbidden from using federal and state court. The Amish obey secular laws. An Amish can leave the Amish community without fear of being beheaded.
 
There are no Amish honor killings. The Amish are not forbidden from using federal and state court. The Amish obey secular laws. An Amish can leave the Amish community without fear of being beheaded.
Honor killings aren't legal, dumb ass. Muslim women have the same opportunity to use regular courts as the Amish do. Muslims are subject to the same laws that we are. The OP says enforcement is social ostracism, exactly like the Amish. That's not a choice that most women would make, but Amish and Muslim women do. They have a right to make that choice regardless of how bad it seems to us.
 
Honor killings aren't legal, dumb ass. Muslim women have the same opportunity to use regular courts as the Amish do. Muslims are subject to the same laws that we are. The OP says enforcement is social ostracism, exactly like the Amish. That's not a choice that most women would make, but Amish and Muslim women do. They have a right to make that choice regardless of how bad it seems to us.
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Cultural practices and legal loopholes have historically allowed Muslims killings to occur with little consequence.
Under Sharia law, homosexual acts can be punishable by death in several countries that implement strict interpretations of these laws. This includes countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Brunei, where such penalties are legally sanctioned.
Gay people also face extrajudicial killings by state and non-state actors in some regions of the world. Locations where this is known to occur include Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Egypt, Turkmenistan, Iran Uganda, Yemen, and Chechnya.
In Islamic countries, particularly where conservative interpretations of Sharia are prevalent, women are subjected to strict dress codes. Violations result in harsh penalties, often enforced by religious police or authorities
Imposition of the death penalty for homosexuality may be classified as judicial murder of gay people.

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Cultural practices and legal loopholes have historically allowed Muslims killings to occur with little consequence.
Under Sharia law, homosexual acts can be punishable by death in several countries that implement strict interpretations of these laws. This includes countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Brunei, where such penalties are legally sanctioned.
Gay people also face extrajudicial killings by state and non-state actors in some regions of the world. Locations where this is known to occur include Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Egypt, Turkmenistan, Iran Uganda, Yemen, and Chechnya.
In Islamic countries, particularly where conservative interpretations of Sharia are prevalent, women are subjected to strict dress codes. Violations result in harsh penalties, often enforced by religious police or authorities
Imposition of the death penalty for homosexuality may be classified as judicial murder of gay people.

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Yet none of those things are allowed here.
 
The entire Islamic goal is to change the law so they will be allowed here. And, to follow Islamic law in defiance of our laws.
Our laws are sufficient to prevent that from happening here without majority approval. Your unfounded fears are no reason to throw away our rights.
 
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Shariah courts in America

We're sleepwalking toward Britain's outcome, or worse
1 Dec 2025 ~~ By Peter McIlvenna

They are not coming. They are already here.
Across the United States, Islamic arbitration bodies quietly handle hundreds of family law cases each year — marriage, divorce, custody, inheritance — behind closed doors, with no transcripts, no appeals and no public oversight. All-male panels apply traditional Shariah rules to 21st-century American women and children.
The Islamic Tribunal of Dallas was founded in 2014 as a “volunteer mediation service.” By 2024, it was deciding roughly 300 cases annually in mosque back rooms and law offices. The panel of three or four male scholars, trained at institutions such as Al-Azhar and Omdurman, openly follows rules in which a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s in financial and inheritance matters. Women report being pressured to accept religious divorces that strip them of their mahr (dowry) and leave them financially devastated.
~Snip~
The North American Islamic Trust owns title to 300 to 325 U.S. mosques, more than 11% of the U.S. total. When disputes arise inside those mosques — divorces, estates, leadership fights — local trust-affiliated imams become the de facto judges. There is no signed arbitration agreement, no neutral venue, no American lawyer reviewing decisions for compliance with U.S. law. Daughters routinely receive half the inheritance of their brothers, as prescribed in Surah An-Nisa. Wives are told that taking the case to a “kafir” (“infidel”) court is forbidden.
The real enforcement is social ostracism: loss of your family, your children’s place in the community, your entire support network. Because these rulings stay outside the Federal Arbitration Act, secular courts hardly ever see the paperwork — or the victims.
The Ismaili Conciliation and Arbitration Board was established in 1986 by the Aga Khan. It has a written constitution, trained mediators (some Western-educated lawyers) and public commitments to gender equality. Yet proceedings remain strictly confidential, rulings are never published, and former members, especially women in transnational marriages, describe being steered toward settlements far weaker than any U.S. family court would allow. The pressure is polite but relentless: Accept less or risk exile from the tight-knit global Ismaili community you were born into.
~Snip~
America is following the same script, only faster. Legal Muslim immigration to the U.S. has exceeded 100,000 annually for more than a decade, supplemented by illegal crossings and asylum claims. Every new mosque and enclave strengthens the infrastructure for private Islamic justice. The same soothing arguments that paralyzed Britain — “It’s voluntary” and “Secular courts are always available” — are repeated here by academics and interfaith groups.
This is not fearmongering; it is pattern recognition. Britain waited 40 years and ended up with 85 Shariah councils. America has the same ingredients, faster demographic change and even less political will to act.
The parallel system is already growing. The only question left is whether we still have the courage to stop it before “voluntary” becomes permanent.


Commentary:
Wondering when Sharia law imposes the tossing gays off high buildings, in Dearborn, the twin Cities, and New York?
Muslims are not in America to be Americans! They do not assimilate into Society, and refuse to obey the laws of the infidels.
Muslims are in America to convert. kill and impose Sharia Law throughout America!
Someone previous mentioned how well and good Lebanon is.. That's only if you reach yo pre World War II and to before Syria and Iran became powerful in the M.E.
Lebanon was the city of lights.
Lebanon, once known for its stunning landscapes, vibrant culture, and rich history, has faced significant turmoil in recent years. The capital, Beirut, was often celebrated as the "Paris of the Middle East" due to its lively atmosphere, beautiful architecture, and bustling nightlife. However, ongoing political instability, economic collapse, and social unrest have deeply affected the country.
Today Lebanon is controlled by Hezbollah Muslim terrorists.
This is how the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslims in general operate and it's happening in th UK as you read this.

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Sounds a lot like the Amish system. Do you want to ban the Amish too?
While Sharia law is not fully integrated into the legal systems of the UK and Europe, its influence is present in specific areas, particularly for Muslim communities. The ongoing discussions about its application highlight the complexities of balancing religious laws with secular legal frameworks and human rights.
 
While Sharia law is not fully integrated into the legal systems of the UK and Europe, its influence is present in specific areas, particularly for Muslim communities. The ongoing discussions about its application highlight the complexities of balancing religious laws with secular legal frameworks and human rights.
Agreed. How does that differ from the complexities of the Amish?
 
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Our laws are sufficient to prevent that from happening here without majority approval. Your unfounded fears are no reason to throw away our rights.
And what happens when Muslims become a majority in town after town, city after city and state after state. After all all, that’s what is happening in Europe.
 

Shariah courts in America

We're sleepwalking toward Britain's outcome, or worse
1 Dec 2025 ~~ By Peter McIlvenna

They are not coming. They are already here.
Across the United States, Islamic arbitration bodies quietly handle hundreds of family law cases each year — marriage, divorce, custody, inheritance — behind closed doors, with no transcripts, no appeals and no public oversight. All-male panels apply traditional Shariah rules to 21st-century American women and children.
The Islamic Tribunal of Dallas was founded in 2014 as a “volunteer mediation service.” By 2024, it was deciding roughly 300 cases annually in mosque back rooms and law offices. The panel of three or four male scholars, trained at institutions such as Al-Azhar and Omdurman, openly follows rules in which a woman’s testimony is worth half a man’s in financial and inheritance matters. Women report being pressured to accept religious divorces that strip them of their mahr (dowry) and leave them financially devastated.
~Snip~
The North American Islamic Trust owns title to 300 to 325 U.S. mosques, more than 11% of the U.S. total. When disputes arise inside those mosques — divorces, estates, leadership fights — local trust-affiliated imams become the de facto judges. There is no signed arbitration agreement, no neutral venue, no American lawyer reviewing decisions for compliance with U.S. law. Daughters routinely receive half the inheritance of their brothers, as prescribed in Surah An-Nisa. Wives are told that taking the case to a “kafir” (“infidel”) court is forbidden.
The real enforcement is social ostracism: loss of your family, your children’s place in the community, your entire support network. Because these rulings stay outside the Federal Arbitration Act, secular courts hardly ever see the paperwork — or the victims.
The Ismaili Conciliation and Arbitration Board was established in 1986 by the Aga Khan. It has a written constitution, trained mediators (some Western-educated lawyers) and public commitments to gender equality. Yet proceedings remain strictly confidential, rulings are never published, and former members, especially women in transnational marriages, describe being steered toward settlements far weaker than any U.S. family court would allow. The pressure is polite but relentless: Accept less or risk exile from the tight-knit global Ismaili community you were born into.
~Snip~
America is following the same script, only faster. Legal Muslim immigration to the U.S. has exceeded 100,000 annually for more than a decade, supplemented by illegal crossings and asylum claims. Every new mosque and enclave strengthens the infrastructure for private Islamic justice. The same soothing arguments that paralyzed Britain — “It’s voluntary” and “Secular courts are always available” — are repeated here by academics and interfaith groups.
This is not fearmongering; it is pattern recognition. Britain waited 40 years and ended up with 85 Shariah councils. America has the same ingredients, faster demographic change and even less political will to act.
The parallel system is already growing. The only question left is whether we still have the courage to stop it before “voluntary” becomes permanent.


Commentary:
Wondering when Sharia law imposes the tossing gays off high buildings, in Dearborn, the twin Cities, and New York?
Muslims are not in America to be Americans! They do not assimilate into Society, and refuse to obey the laws of the infidels.
Muslims are in America to convert. kill and impose Sharia Law throughout America!
Someone previous mentioned how well and good Lebanon is.. That's only if you reach yo pre World War II and to before Syria and Iran became powerful in the M.E.
Lebanon was the city of lights.
Lebanon, once known for its stunning landscapes, vibrant culture, and rich history, has faced significant turmoil in recent years. The capital, Beirut, was often celebrated as the "Paris of the Middle East" due to its lively atmosphere, beautiful architecture, and bustling nightlife. However, ongoing political instability, economic collapse, and social unrest have deeply affected the country.
Today Lebanon is controlled by Hezbollah Muslim terrorists.
This is how the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslims in general operate and it's happening in th UK as you read this.
Fortunately we haven't been disarmed. So we get to shoot back.
 
And what happens when Muslims become a majority in town after town, city after city and state after state. After all all, that’s what is happening in Europe.
Then they will be the majority, and run the country as they see fit. I wouldn't worry too much about that happening.
 
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