Senate panel backs gay marriage ban

[cslaughlin13]

btw gunnyL, calling somebody a "***" is actualy hateful because it is a malignant word that is insulting to many people. Heres an idea, go to a gay bar and yell ******, see what happens.
The word "***" is just as bad as the word "******" and they are both hateful words, so technically, to say one of those words in a demeaning way towards another imples that you do actually have hate towards other people

 

[Bonnie]

you know, I don't actually sit at home all day and plot ways to destroy families and christians or Republcans for that matter

Im sure you don't. The case can be made however that some in the gay movement see that as their way, and means, to legitamize the gay lifestyle.

I would think if it is strictly benefits you seek then a career change might be a quicker route?

 

[cslaughlin13]

I guess your no better than I am because you aslo use a label to call people who don't agree with your agenda like "******" or "dike"...I wonder whats next

 

[cslaughlin13]

bonnie, what do you mean by a career change?

 

[Gunny]

btw gunnyL, calling somebody a "***" is actualy hateful because it is a malignant word that is insulting to many people. Heres an idea, go to a gay bar and yell ******, see what happens.
The word "***" is just as bad as the word "******" and they are both hateful words, so technically, to say one of those words in a demeaning way towards another imples that you do actually have hate towards other people

So, I'm not politically correct. I'll get over it.

Why you would think I would want to go into a gay bar is beyond me. Why you further assume that I instigate needless violence is also beyond me. It isn't because I can't ... I'm pretty damned-good at violence ... it's that I choose not to.

My vote is far more powerful than how many fags I can **** up, and I don't get jailed for voting.

 

[Bonnie]

bonnie, what do you mean by a career change?

Well you stated in the above post (paraphrasing here) you wanted your damned benefits and then you would be done with the whole gay rights thing.

So I wondered why you having benefits hinges on lawful gay marriage? I am not married at the moment either, but my job provides benefits to me.

 

[Gunny]

I guess your no better than I am because you aslo use a label to call people who don't agree with your agenda like "******" or "dike"...I wonder whats next

The difference being my label is correct by your own admission. Your labels are nothing but fishing expeditions trying to hit nerves.

 

[cslaughlin13]

first off I will state that I am a college student so i don't have a real professional job yet, and I am aware that many jobs do in fact give benefits to gay couples, What bothers me about the gay marriage issue are a couple of things:
1. if my partner were actually on his deathbed and i wanted to go see him, the nurse or docter, etc., could refuse to let me see him because I am not a family member.
2. If he were to die, even if he wrote a will, since i would not be part of his family, It would be damn hard to get his assets like property and money and other stuff.

I am not saying that these things would probably happen under normal circumstances, but with the wrong people at the right time, it is very possible and basically the gay marriage or civil union, whatever, will provide true security against it.

 

[Gunny]

first off I will state that I am a college student so i don't have a real professional job yet, and I am aware that many jobs do in fact give benefits to gay couples, What bothers me about the gay marriage issue are a couple of things:
1. if my partner were actually on his deathbed and i wanted to go see him, the nurse or docter, etc., could refuse to let me see him because I am not a family member.
2. If he were to die, even if he wrote a will, since i would not be part of his family, It would be damn hard to get his assets like property and money and other stuff.

I am not saying that these things would probably happen under normal circumstances, but with the wrong people at the right time, it is very possible and basically the gay marriage or civil union, whatever, will provide true security against it.

Damn, an actual legitimate complaint. So, instead of attacking the heterosexual and Christian institution of marriage, why doesn't the gay agenda go after the REAL problem?

The powerbrokers who are not allowing you the Right to have whoever you choose as beneficiary and/or next of kin? In my opinion, it is THAT that is the underlying problem. Not the institution of marriage.

 

[sitarro]

quoted by sitarro:

Actually I am 19 and have taken 4 years of catholic theology (long story, don't ask). I know a lot about it and enough to know that it was written by humans, even though they are supposely influenced by God. Couldn't it have possibly occurred to your "small mind" that humans could have put their opinion inside the book to make God a "he" even though it is clear that God is not a human being, or couldn't some biased person twist around what God (if he exists) had said and written that homosexuality is wrong when instead God could have said something completely different.

Another idea that other people should know: even though I am gay, I am actually not liberal because I think their economic views are crap and I don't actually plot against christians to destroy your way of having a family just because I want rights.

Maybe you guys should check you conspiracy theories because they sure don't add up too well.

Well kid, maybe you have just been influenced by the current faddish love for everything homosexual so prevalent in your age group(you do know that the guys in Will and Grace aren't really homos don't you?).How do you know that you are a homosexual? When did you first start feeling a need to define who you are by who you have sex with(the standard line is 3 or 4)? I'm guessing again but I bet you aren't into engineering or design in general otherwise you would have noticed the the design of male and female parts work perfectly together while male and male would flunk any design class. In a world that has so much perfection why do you want to be in the wrong category.

I hope you know that the homo-police will throw you out of the club if you admit to not following the liberal doctrine? Watch out for Matt, he may tell on you.

Maybe you're right, maybe we(heteros or breeders as we are affectionately refered as) are all incorrect, what God meant to say in the Bible was that heterosexuality is wrong and homosexuality is correct.......yea right...sure.

 

[cslaughlin13]

believe it or not, I really don't have much of a problem with christians, but with the gay marriage thing, I will get engadged to another guy and live my life with him even if the government tells me that I can't, thats not the problem, its the fact that some people, under the right circumstance, can do som really shitty things to people just because they don't like them and Gay marriage or civil union is the best way to solve that problem.

 

[Gunny]

believe it or not, I really don't have much of a problem with christians, but with the gay marriage thing, I will get engadged to another guy and live my life with him even if the government tells me that I can't, thats not the problem, its the fact that some people, under the right circumstance, can do som really shitty things to people just because they don't like them and Gay marriage or civil union is the best way to solve that problem.

Attacking the institution of marriage is not the best way to to solve the problem of being denied a fundamental right, that all of us btw, are denied. I can no more name whoever I wish as beneficiary or next of kin than you can.

All gay marriage is, is a demand for legality. Once recognized legally, you are considered "legit." You do not deserve a right based on your sexual preference. That is a right no one else has; yet, you believe you deserve a special law just for you.

 

[cslaughlin13]

sitarro, I am actually not going to argue about the me being gay thing because I know that I am and even me telling you this, and providing all of the proof will never actually convince you so there really is no point, and btw, I don't think God condemns heterosexuals, I just think that the bible has some bias in it though, and actually my major in college is computer engineering and I am a complete nerd. I am actually not femenine like some gay guys nor do I really like those people that much, sorry but don't listen to stereo types because they usually aren't true

And btw, that is a very shitty thing to say about a person who was beaten to death and hung up on a fence

 

[cslaughlin13]

GunnyL,
I'm not attacking anybody or any institution, I would just like the government to give us equal rights for wanting to be with the person whom we want to be with, call it civil union, call it buttsechs, I don't really care, I just want the rights

 

[cslaughlin13]

cont. to gunny L:
fine, I don't actually care if the legalize marriage, just make laws so that certain institutions (like hospitals) and such can't discriminate based on sexual preference, that would work as well

 

[Gunny]

GunnyL,
I'm not attacking anybody or any institution, I would just like the government to give us equal rights for wanting to be with the person whom we want to be with, call it civil union, call it buttsechs, I don't really care, I just want the rights

You ALREADY have every right that I do. I have no right to "be with the person whom I want to be with." I have the right to marry a person of the opposite sex. So do you.

cont. to gunny L:
fine, I don't actually care if the legalize marriage, just make laws so that certain institutions (like hospitals) and such can't discriminate based on sexual preference, that would work as well

I have no problem with that because that IS discrimination.

 

[cslaughlin13]

although people will disagree, you can't change your sexual orientation, believe me, before i came out, I even deluded myself into believing that I was straight, I nearly went crazy. Its not possible to change your oreintation, if you don't believe me, try to make out with your same sex, chances are you probably won't enjoy it (unless your gay or bi). But (except for bisexuals), gay people cannot become straight, so i believe that the government should just grant homosexuals civil unions or gay marriage and be done with it.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

cont. to gunny L:
fine, I don't actually care if the legalize marriage, just make laws so that certain institutions (like hospitals) and such can't discriminate based on sexual preference, that would work as well

If that is what you are concerned about, see a lawyer with your partner and draw up a document that allows you to see your partner should he wind up at death's door in the hospital. Same goes for inheriting his assets or anything else you are concerned about. Frankly, you're pretty young to be "worried" about such things. I suspect you are really just regurgitating the gay party line's BS list of grievances.

As far as the "gay connection" to the Communist Party here is an old official list of Communist goals....check out #26 for yourself. I really wonder why gays support the radical Left. I would think gays would really be much safer with Christians than with Communists in the long run.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

 

[Dr Grump]

but I DON'T want to see you on the street displaying your deviant sexual behavior where my children can see it and think it's okay, when it ain't.

But you don't mind hetrosexuals displaying deviant behaviour on the street??? hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm

 

[cslaughlin13]

well you are right in the fact that i am in fact a little young, however, it is important to think about the future and it is not that far into the future, and I'm actually not doing this because the HRC tells me to. Technically, you could just be reguritating Christian And/Or Republican lines.
and btw, I am not a communist, or socialist and have never supported their ideas or parties cause they suck, I am actually very moderate, other than the fact that i believe in complete social equality, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to economics and foreign policy.