Sea level may rise, so does land elevations

[Robert W]

Islands were supposed to be underwater. But they keep rising. Coral rises. Land is added to the islands. The alarms were false alarms. Check this out.

 

[mamooth]

Thread summary:

Robert doesn't understand the very basics of sea level rise.

 

[Robert W]

Thread summary:

Robert doesn't understand the very basics of sea level rise.

Mamooth does not understand the basics of sea level rise or level falling

 

[mamooth]

Mamooth does not understand the basics of sea level rise or level falling

Do tell us more about the land rising. How does that work? Everyone really wants to know.

You do undestand that most of the world is not a coral atoll, right?

And that coral atolls are not rising as fast as sea level? While some coral atolls increased in size, that's mainly due to land restoration efforts (such as by China in the south China sea), and not by natural processes.

 

[Robert W]

Do tell us more about the land rising. How does that work? Everyone really wants to know.

You do undestand that most of the world is not a coral atoll, right?

And that coral atolls are not rising as fast as sea level? While some coral atolls increased in size, that's mainly due to land restoration efforts (such as by China in the south China sea), and not by natural processes.

Coral and sand is the source. Thank you for admitting coral atolls have increased in size.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Do tell us more about the land rising. How does that work? Everyone really wants to know.

You do undestand that most of the world is not a coral atoll, right?

And that coral atolls are not rising as fast as sea level? While some coral atolls increased in size, that's mainly due to land restoration efforts (such as by China in the south China sea), and not by natural processes.

The 2011 Japanese earthquake, the seabed rose 7 metres, which is about 23 feet. What effect on global sea level did the climate brigade conclude, or are they just talking about melting ice? I'm not a climate alarmist because I follow science, I just wondered if you knew?

 

[EMH]

There is no ocean rise because there is no ongoing net ice melt because Planet Earth is not warming.


Land sometimes does go up and down. Mountains are created by tectonic plate movement. On top of Mt Everest are 90 million year old clam fossils...

 

[Robert W]

There is no ocean rise because there is no ongoing net ice melt because Planet Earth is not warming.


Land sometimes does go up and down. Mountains are created by tectonic plate movement. On top of Mt Everest are 90 million year old clam fossils...

I did not know there are clams on the top of Mt. Everest.
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Yes, there are fossils on top of Mount Everest:

• What fossils are there?
  The summit of Mount Everest contains fossils of marine invertebrates, including trilobites, brachiopods, crinoids, ostracods, and conodonts.
  
  
  
• What are the fossils in?
  The fossils are found in the Qomolangma Limestone, a sedimentary rock that's well-bedded and grainstone

 

[EMH]

I did not know there are clams on the top of Mt. Everest.
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Yes, there are fossils on top of Mount Everest:

• What fossils are there?
  The summit of Mount Everest contains fossils of marine invertebrates, including trilobites, brachiopods, crinoids, ostracods, and conodonts.
  
  
  
• What are the fossils in?
  The fossils are found in the Qomolangma Limestone, a sedimentary rock that's well-bedded and grainstone

That rock was underwater 90 million years ago.... so yeah, land can "go up" and "down" because of tectonics.

The "down" part is Pacific Ring of Fire, when one plate goes under the other. If you are an island on the plate approaching PROF going down, then so is your island. The Co2 FRAUD tried to blame "ocean rise" for Marshall and Solomon islands, but they were badly busted by someone who noticed PROF....

 

[Robert W]

That rock was underwater 90 million years ago.... so yeah, land can "go up" and "down" because of tectonics.

The "down" part is Pacific Ring of Fire, when one plate goes under the other. If you are an island on the plate approaching PROF going down, then so is your island. The Co2 FRAUD tried to blame "ocean rise" for Marshall and Solomon islands, but they were badly busted by someone who noticed PROF....

Thanks for the new knowledge told to me.

 

[mamooth]

The 2011 Japanese earthquake, the seabed rose 7 metres, which is about 23 feet. What effect on global sea level did the climate brigade conclude,

What are you babbling about?

Sweet Jeebus, you're stupid. A small section of ocean rose. And because the earth has a finite amount of stuff in it, and the stuff is incompressible, other areas had to fall a bit to make up for it. It didn't have any effect on global oceans levels.

You're kind of moron, so you don't understand the simplest things.

 

[Robert W]

What are you babbling about?

Sweet Jeebus, you're stupid. A small section of ocean rose. And because the earth has a finite amount of stuff in it, and the stuff is incompressible, other areas had to fall a bit to make up for it. It didn't have any effect on global oceans levels.

You're kind of moron, so you don't understand the simplest things.

Why the torrents of insults when all he had posted was non attack words?

 

[Captain Caveman]

What are you babbling about?

Sweet Jeebus, you're stupid. A small section of ocean rose. And because the earth has a finite amount of stuff in it, and the stuff is incompressible, other areas had to fall a bit to make up for it. It didn't have any effect on global oceans levels.

You're kind of moron, so you don't understand the simplest things.

Bloody hell, you have ABSOLUTELY no idea what processes effects sea level, do you??????

Did you not know tectonics and land/seabed movement effected sea level??? What a clown.

How the hell can you cry your pants out over something you haven't a clue about?????

 

[mamooth]

Why the torrents of insults when all he had posted was non attack words?

Stuff it, hypocrite. You fling the insults freely. And then you whine about getting some back as an excuse to cry and run.

Grow up, act like a liberal, and discuss the topic, instead of finding excuses to run.

If you can. But you can't, and everyone sees it.

 

[mamooth]

Bloody hell, you have ABSOLUTELY no idea what processes effects sea level, do you??????

Yet you're the one who just pooched it so hilariously.

First, there's the matter of area. The oceans are really freakin' big. The area of uplift was tiny in comparison.

And ... like I tried to explain to you in small words ... matter is conserved. There's a finite amount of mantle material under the earth's crust. It's not compressable. If the earth rises in one spot, it has to fall a bit in the areas around where it rose, as the mantle material flows to fill in under the area that rose.

We see this in the glacial isostatic rebound areas. Areas where ice sheets have just melted rise a bit. Areas adjacent to the risen parts, they fall, as the mantle material flows away from them.

If you need this simplified more, you're out of luck. I can't dumb it down any further.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yet you're the one who just pooched it so hilariously.

First, there's the matter of area. The oceans are really freakin' big. The area of uplift was tiny in comparison.

And ... like I tried to explain to you in small words ... matter is conserved. There's a finite amount of mantle material under the earth's crust. It's not compressable. If the earth rises in one spot, it has to fall a bit in the areas around where it rose, as the mantle material flows to fill in under the area that rose.

We see this in the glacial isostatic rebound areas. Areas where ice sheets have just melted rise a bit. Areas adjacent to the risen parts, they fall, as the mantle material flows away from them.

If you need this simplified more, you're out of luck. I can't dumb it down any further.

You are a backtracking clown, that's why Alarmists are mentally ill. What effect did the Japanese earthquake in 2011 have on sea rise, and where? You dumb freak.

 

[mamooth]

You are a backtracking clown, that's why Alarmists are mentally ill.

Don't worry. You always run when your BS is ripped apart, so nobody expected better of you.

What effect did the Japanese earthquake in 2011 have on sea rise, and where? You dumb freak.

I wrote two whole posts answering that. Like I said, I just can't dumb it down any further.

On the plus side, you already had zero credibility, so you can't go any lower there.

 

[Robert W]

Stuff it, hypocrite. You fling the insults freely. And then you whine about getting some back as an excuse to cry and run.

Grow up, act like a liberal, and discuss the topic, instead of finding excuses to run.

If you can. But you can't, and everyone sees it.

What insults by me are you whining about? I got onto your ass over how poor you treat posters you don't know.

Democrats are not liberals at all. They are extreme authoritarians as you prove.

 

[mamooth]

Democrats are not liberals at all. They are extreme authoritarians as you prove.

And there's the inevitable weirdass political rant.

You care nothing about the science, and you know nothing about the science. You're merely parroting what your political cult told you.

Meanwhile, here on the rational side, we just talk about science, without bringing politics into it. Because we can.

 

[Foxfyre]

There is no ocean rise because there is no ongoing net ice melt because Planet Earth is not warming.


Land sometimes does go up and down. Mountains are created by tectonic plate movement. On top of Mt Everest are 90 million year old clam fossils...

I disagree. The Earth is warming and will continue to do so--retreating and advancing at different times-- until the next ice age. But the overall net increase is small and actually a healthy thing for most of the Earth. And certainly it is not cause for undue alarm and certainly no justification for draconian measures to fight 'climate change' that drains economies of resources that could be so much better spent helping humankind adapt to inevitable changes in climate.