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[BackAgain]

Do you understand the difference between a mistake and a lie? or are these the same to you? just answer honestly.

You didn’t make a “mistake.” You lied.

Now go sit in a corner. And fuck yourself.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You didn’t make a “mistake.” You lied.

Now go sit in a corner. And fuck yourself.

Do you understand the difference between a mistake and a lie? why are you reluctant to answer me?

 

[BackAgain]

Do you understand the difference between a mistake and a lie?

Yes. And you lied.

You do so quite often.

As a side note: denying your lie was a lie by pretending it was merely a mistake is also a lie.

Stop lying.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes. And you lied.

You do so quite often.

As a side note: denying your lie was a lie by pretending it was merely a mistake is also a lie.

Stop lying.

How can you prove I did not make a mistake? that my recollection was wrong? If you cannot prove that then you cannot really support the accusation I lied.

 

[BackAgain]

How can you prove I did not make a mistake? that my recollection was wrong? If you cannot prove that then you cannot really support the accusation I lied.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This is what I often find with maga, they are keen to accuse other people, keen to label those who do not share the maga doctrine as "liars" or some other nonsensical term that they don't understand like "Marxist" and so on.

If you do not understand the difference between human error and lying then look no further than Donald Trump who for four years has perpetuated the lie that he won the 2020 election when every sane individual knows he lost and he has been shown proof that he lost.

You sir are the one who lies, you do it innately because truth no longer matters to you.

 

[BackAgain]

This is what I often find with maga, they are keen to accuse other people,

You seem to overlook that you are “keen” to disparage all who don’t hold your myopic idiotic and generally ridiculous views.

Hey, Shitlock. You’re a Brit? Do you date Taint?

Anyway. Stop lying.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You seem to overlook that you are “keen” to disparage all who don’t hold your myopic idiotic and generally ridiculous views.

Hey, Shitlock. You’re a Brit? Do you date Taint?

Anyway. Stop lying.

Being called a "liar" by a moron who thinks a mechanism can lie, hardly registers with me, get an education then come back and say something unpredictable for once.

Claiming that a mechanism can lie is a lie, only humans lie especially trumpanzees.

 

[BackAgain]

Being called a "liar" by a moron who thinks a mechanism can lie,

Not what I even said. You liar.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Not what I even said. You liar.

You said (click the image to get to your own post where you wrote this)



It's a lie to state that a machine can lie (under any circumstances). Only humans lie.

 

[marvin martian]

Some of you incels really shouldn't be allowed to vote, no wonder the country's sinking like a lead balloon.

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We're doing fine, Nazi. You're a subject, not a citizen, so your opinion really doesn't matter.

 

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You said (click the image to get to your own post where you wrote this)

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Yes, you fucking retard. If YOU PROGRAM it to give false answers, how could it not do so?

It's a lie to state that a machine can lie (under any circumstances). Only humans lie.

If you program a computer to give false answers, then it will give false answers.

How this eludes you is unclear (other than the fact that you’re a fucking retard).

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes, you fucking retard. If YOU PROGRAM it to give false answers, how could it not do so?

If I tell a child a lie and the child trusts me and repeats what I said, the child is not a liar - I assume this is obvious but you might struggle.

If you program a computer to give false answers, then it will give false answers.

Right but that is not the result of the mechanism choosing to give a false answer, a lie is a choice, computers do not make choices they always follow precise rules, unambiguous rules.

If a person follows a rule book that has questions and responses written in it and the person is asked some question that's in the rule book, the person is not a liar if the rule book contains a false answer to that question, the person is simply following what's in the rule book.

How this eludes you is unclear (other than the fact that you’re a fucking retard).

Nothing eludes Sherlock Holmes. It's clear that you do not know what a computer actually is or what a program actually is, yet despite this ignorance you continue to press your vacuous claims about computers.

No wonder you believe Trump won in 2020.

 

[BackAgain]

If I tell a child a lie and the child trusts me and repeats what I said, the child is not a liar - I assume this is obvious but you might struggle.

Which has nothing to do with programming a computer to lie.

You’re so fundamentally dishonest, you even lie to yourself. Worse yet, you might even believe your own bullshit. But that doesn’t make you right.

Right but that is not the result of the mechanism choosing to give a false answer, a lie is a choice, computers do not make choices they always follow precise rules, unambiguous rules.

Wrong, you idiot. If I program a computer to ascertain whether a given number is “odd” or “even,” but then direct it to always answer that an even number “is” odd, the computer will have to first identify if the actual number is odd or even. Only then can it spit out the false answer that the even number is “odd.”

If a person follows a rule book that has questions and responses written in it and the person is asked some question that's in the rule book, the person is not a liar if the rule book contains a false answer to that question, the person is simply following what's in the rule book.

If a person must follow the rules in that rule book, the answer is required but that doesn’t mean that the person has to believe the answer.

One of your many problems is that you don’t even grasp the import of words.

Nothing eludes Sherlock Holmes

Except reality and honesty.

No wonder you believe Trump won in 2020.

I never said that, as I already advised you.

So, of course, you (being you) just chose to lie again.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Which has nothing to do with programming a computer to lie.

You’re so fundamentally dishonest, you even lie to yourself. Worse yet, you might even believe your own bullshit. But that doesn’t make you right.


Wrong, you idiot. If I program a computer to ascertain whether a given number is “odd” or “even,” but then direct it to always answer that an even number “is” odd, the computer will have to first identify if the actual number is odd or even. Only then can it spit out the false answer that the even number is “odd.”

The machine will do what its designed to to, that's all any machine can do FFS. If a human intentionally designs a machine to give a false answer then the person is the liar not the machine designed by the person.

If a person must follow the rules in that rule book, the answer is required but that doesn’t mean that the person has to believe the answer.

Computers do not have beliefs though so any argument hinging on that is inadmissible. I can give you a rule book that has qiestions <-> answers in a domain you know nothing about, so in that case there's no scope for "belief" is there dunce?

One of your many problems is that you don’t even grasp the import of words.

Except reality and honesty.

I never said that, as I already advised you.

So, of course, you (being you) just chose to lie again.

You could at least make an effort to educate yourself about all this, But being an antillectual you likely won't, facts and truth mean nothing to you, only outcomes, anything that gets the outcome you want must be true - ain't that right dingbat.

Like so many uneducated AI wafflers you have fallen victim to anthropomorphism, God help this country.

The Chinese Room Argument (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

plato.stanford.edu

 

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The machine will do what its designed to to,

Hemlock, you twit, I already noted that.

In order to spit out the false answer, first the machine has to get programmed to recognize the difference between odd and even. Then, but only then, can it comply with its instructions to give the false answer. it HAS TO recognize odd or even to answer that the number ”2” is “odd.”

Be as obtuse as you want to be. It’s ok. I don’t value your posts anyway. But here are some things we both know:

You’re an imbecile and you’re dishonest and you’re mainly a troll.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hemlock, you twit, I already noted that.

In order to spit out the false answer, first the machine has to get programmed to recognize the difference between odd and even.

It doesn't have to do any such thing, these are human labels for human concepts. We put a number in and get a odd/even response. This is one way to get that a lookup table:

0 → even
1 → odd
2 → even
3 → odd
4 → even
5 → odd
6 → even

and so on. If one or more of the entries in the lookup table are wrong the answer will be wrong, but there's no qualitative difference, no "recognize" involved (another anthropomorphic term). If a person intentionally, knowingly puts incorrect entries into that table, how can you say the table itself is "lying"?

Then, but only then, can it comply with its instructions to give the false answer. it HAS TO recognize odd or even to answer that the number ”2” is “odd.”

There are arithmetic rules humans can follow to decide if any integer is odd or even, I won't state them here, you can look them up if you want. If a person follows different rules that are not equivalent then when they apply the rule they'll get the wrong answer, use the right rules you get the right answer, use flawed rules you'll get the wrong answer.

The system follows rules it does not make them - we - humans define the rules. This is so basic yet you can't (or stubbornly won't) accept it.

Be as obtuse as you want to be. It’s ok. I don’t value your posts anyway. But here are some things we both know:

You’re an imbecile and you’re dishonest and you’re mainly a troll.

 

[BackAgain]

It doesn't have to do any such thing, these are human labels for human concepts. We put a number in and get a odd/even response. This is one way to get that a lookup table:

0 → even
1 → odd
2 → even
3 → odd
4 → even
5 → odd
6 → even

Not what I said.

If the computer is programmed to properly recognize that 2 and 4 are even numbers but further programmed to declare that they are “odd” numbers, then it “knows” 2 is “even” while it has to incorrectly label it as “odd.”

Sorry you can’t keep up.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Not what I said.

If the computer is programmed to properly recognize that 2 and 4 are even numbers but further programmed to declare that they are “odd” numbers, then it “knows” 2 is “even” while it has to incorrectly label it as “odd.”

Sorry you can’t keep up.

How can you tell what a machine does just by putting in inputs and getting outputs? I can assure you that any program you write to tell you if a number is odd or even can always be represented by a lookup table, they are logically equivalent and no test you can perform on the system can tell you whether a lookup table is used or whether some arithmetic division algorithm is used, there's no test you can devise that can tell you what the algorithm is.

There's nothing a division algorithm can do that a lookup table cannot. A flawed "lying" algorithm can be 100% replicated in a lookup table, I mentioned lookup tables to help you see that there's no "choosing" involved, the machine is just doing what it's designed to do, you cannot blame the computer for bugs or hacks put there by a human.

Anyway, my fee is 500 dollars per hour, or you can buy a book and educate yourself, once you realize you don't know what the fuck you've been prattling about you might also start to address bigger knowledge gaps like geopolitics, democracy, law and order, racism, fascism and so on, there's hope for you yet young man - the ball's in your court.

 

[BackAgain]

How can you tell what machine does just by putting in inputs and getting outputs?

Irrelevant. Also not what I said.

I’ve had enough of you.

You’re a crashing bore and a drone.

I see that you think highly of yourself.

I hope you realize that normal people see you for what you are, instead. And what you really are is just a pantload.

Bye bye troll.