Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion

[Robert W]

Russia wants what was damaged by Russia to be added to Russia. Trump will allow it, but the
World who has helped Ukraine will not allow it. Stop watching Trump and pay attention to the European nations who help Ukraine go against Russian aggression. Trump made a mistake by raising hell with Ukraine.

 

[ColonelAngus]

What is the ethnic makeup of the territory Russia will not cede?

 

[Robert W]

What is the ethnic makeup of the territory Russia will not cede?

Ukrainians.

 

[JWBooth]

Russia wants what was damaged by Russia to be added to Russia. Trump will allow it, but the
World who has helped Ukraine will not allow it. Stop watching Trump and pay attention to the European nations who help Ukraine go against Russian aggression. Trump made a mistake by raising hell with Ukraine.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Awarded?
The US was awarded the Southwest after defeating Mexico militarily?
Roughly the same difference.
The war was over, conquered land changed hands, the loser resented it and was powerless to stop it.
The same will happen in this war.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ukrainians.

That is the ethnic breakdown of those territories?

Interesting.

What is the ethnic makeup of the USA?

 

[MisterBeale]

INTEL Roundtable w/ Johnson & McGovern - Weekly Wrap 21-NOV​

Nov 21, 2025

 

[MisterBeale]

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The Alleged 28-Point Ukrainian and Russian Peace Plan

sonar21.com

https://archive.ph/dOcf0

 

[ColonelAngus]

The left wants the war to continue as long as it might be Trump helping end it.

That is the level of TDS. WAR AND DEATH OVER PEACE.

Also fascinating how the left ignores that the USA stopped the peace deal arranged in early 2022.

By the end of March 2022, a series of in-person meetings in Belarus and Turkey and virtual engagements over video conference had produced the so-called Istanbul Communiqué, which described a framework for a settlement. Ukrainian and Russian negotiators then began working on the text of a treaty, making substantial progress toward an agreement. But in May, the talks broke off due to interference from the West.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I disagree with some of these.

 

[rightwinger]

Surrender Monkey Trump will give Putin everything he asks for

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump has proposed “secondary tariffs” ranging from 25 to 50 percent on nations that purchase oil from Russia.

SUCH A PUTIN PUPPET.

You lefties are ******* dipshits.

 

[22lcidw]

Surrender Monkey Trump will give Putin everything he asks for

We did that after WW 2, Korea and Viet Nam. The middle east wars is a head scratcher. Friends and/or enemies. It seems it changes and for our political parties' separate views also. Except for Iran. And Israel might be next in the political party persuasion.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has proposed “secondary tariffs” ranging from 25 to 50 percent on nations that purchase oil from Russia.

SUCH A PUTIN PUPPET.

You lefties are ******* dipshits.

Where are they?

Trump is offering a complete lifting of sanctions and G8 membership along with all occupied and desired territory

 

[rightwinger]

We need a President who is tough on Russia like Joe Biden

Beats a Surrender Monkey like Trump

 

[22lcidw]

We need a President who is tough on Russia like Joe Biden

Beats a Surrender Monkey like Trump

Ukraine means nothing to us. As soon as the war started politicians, elites, media and entertainers went over there quickly. That was weird. And there is something more to it.

 

[JWBooth]

Surrender Monkey Trump will give Putin everything he asks for

Surrender monkey Roosevelt gave Stalin much more.

 

[1srelluc]

Not my money, not my circus....The EU can handle it or not.

The main thing is that it's no longer a dem grift stream.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The BAD ORANGE MAN is always in the frontal lobe of every lefty cult cuck.

You fools should be DONATING TO THE DNC AND LEAVING YOUR DOORS UNLOCKED FOR ILLEGALS TO SQUAT IN YOUR LIVING ROOMS.

FAKE *****.

 

[JoeB131]

Russia wants what was damaged by Russia to be added to Russia. Trump will allow it, but the
World who has helped Ukraine will not allow it. Stop watching Trump and pay attention to the European nations who help Ukraine go against Russian aggression. Trump made a mistake by raising hell with Ukraine.

Um, sorry, man, your boy Sold Ukraine out. Deal with it.

Actually, I'm fine with the 28 point plan. Most of it is pretty reasonable.

The only change I would make is that Russia should give back Kherson and Zaphorizia (sp).

Every other point- granting Donbas and Crimea to Russia, lifting sanctions, etc. are pretty reasonable.

 

[JoeB131]

Where are they?

Trump is offering a complete lifting of sanctions and G8 membership along with all occupied and desired territory

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Here's the underlying problem.

When the USSR broke up, Russians found themselves living in Ukraine.

Our goals should be pretty clear.

1) A peace everyone can live with, even if they don't like it.
2) Not letting this escalate into WWIII
3) Not driving Russia deeper into China's orbit.


What are the alternatives?

Ukraine certainly doesn't have the capacity to retake territory at this point. They are conscripting 50-year-olds while men are fleeing the country.

Putting the economic screws to Russia, hoping that Putin will be overthrown, just creates more problems than it solves.

Trump is like a broken clock... he's right maybe twice a day.