Russia Planning Massive Military Offensive Against Ukraine Involving 175,000 Troops, U.S. Intelligence Warns

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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ROBERT PARRY: Who's Telling the 'Big Lie' on Ukraine?

The U.S. group think still driving the Ukraine crisis began at least eight years ago, as detailed in this article by Robert Parry on Sept. 2, 2014. Exclusive: Official Washington draws the Ukraine crisis in black-and-white colors with Putin the bad guy and the U.S.-backed leaders in Kiev the good

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Oh look, you found an agreeable opinion. I could find one, too. Means nothing.

 

[MisterBeale]

Surely you see how silly and partisan this is. This is just like the Democrat’s attacks on Trump’s “Russian collusion.”

See? There is an essential difference there.

And, thus, why it makes this one funny.

The corporate consortium propaganda, refused to really cover much, the Hunter story, and it is pretty obvious corruption.

And? OTH? The "Russia collusion," narrative was complete and utter horseshit from the get go. Even honest progressive sources called out the cabal for their vicious slander and obvious attacks on our legitimately elected state. It was a Deep State attack from the start, to stop the business of what the people wanted. People like Matt Tabbibi, Glen Greenwald, Jimmi Dore, Consortium News. . . these aren't right-wing source of information, they all pointed out the falseness of the narrative, and the fact that focusing on HOW the information came into the possession of Wikileaks was a distraction.

ON top of that, VIPS even analyzed the DATA transfer rates, and declared in no uncertain terms it had to be a leak and not a hack. . . IN all probability, Hillary even knew this during that last debate with Trump, she and all her people should have had their Top Security clearance CUT OFF, from day one.

The fact that you don't get any of this? And the fact that this meme triggers you, and you can even equate the corruption of both sides? That means your mind is totaling and completely enslaved to the cabal. It means you don't have a clue as to what is really going on. . .

 

[MisterBeale]

Oh look, you found an agreeable opinion. I could find one, too. Means nothing.

Not opinion buddy, FACTS.

Sorry you don't like the facts.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Fuck Putin. In a head-to-head contest, we'd kick his ass.

How about Europe deal with this shit for once since it's on their land and we stay out of it. We can't afford it and the American people won't support it.

 

[Markle]

How about Europe deal with this shit for once since it's on their land and we stay out of it. We can't afford it and the American people won't support it.

The Ukraine is not in Western Europe. Why say it is their problem?

 

[Roudy]

Thanks to Joe Biden. China will soon makes its move as well.

 

[Baron]

No head-to-head contests, please. Let Russia have the Ukraine ---

THe truth is Russia doesn't need Ukraine, let idiots from EU, NATO and USA feed this failed 'state'

 

[Baron]

I agree,

then why is fucking NATO there?

Because fucking NATO badly needs money of western taxpayers to feed its fat generals.
Anything written about Russia in western presstitute medias is a blatant lie.
Western oligarchs and banksters simple want to destroy both Russian state and Russian people and pillage its natural commodities for free.
Now the world is teetering on the verge of WWIII and obviously no one cares.

 

[Baron]

What the HELL is in the Ukraine to make the Ruskies go all "Hitler" on them????

Nothing
The entirely story is invented by western presstitute MS 'medias' and corrupted politicians

 

[Baron]

Land and resources.

WOW,

which ones?
Almost all resources are already swallowed by greedy western oligarchs.

 

[Baron]

Hell with the neo Nazi state of Ukraine
I hope Putin obliterated them

Let Ukraine became the part of EU, so the communist shithole in Bruxelles ceases out to exist within few years

 

[Silver Cat]

I didn't know Ukraine was threatening Russia's 'flank.'

Ukraine claims that Crymea and Donbass are her regions. What is even more important for the Russians - it is the US and NATO military bases.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

MisterBeale, your insults in comment #162 do not strengthen your argument.

Your silly GOP cartoon works against your avowed desire that the U.S. not get involved in war with Russia over Ukraine. By portraying Biden — chief executive of the most aggressive NATO power & capitalist state in the world — as weak and “bought off” by Putin, you are using the exact same argument made against Trump by Democrats.

You may think you are being clever here, but you are merely dancing to a tune set by the CIA and lunatic imperialist, pro-MIC forces who want a “harder,” more militarist posture toward Putin over Crimea, Donbas, etc.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How about Europe deal with this shit for once since it's on their land and we stay out of it.

How bizarre. So, we consult geologists about where the boundary of the European continent lies, to decide our foreign policy?

And then pretend any event that happens within this imaginary line is the problem of all countries within it, and only their problem, and it won't affect us?

If you don't care if Russia invades a European country for the third time in 13 years, then say so. No need to try to wrap it in some embroidered pillow euphemism.

 

[MisterBeale]

MisterBeale, your insults in comment #162 do not strengthen your argument.

Your silly GOP cartoon works against your avowed desire that the U.S. not get involved in war with Russia over Ukraine. By portraying Biden — chief executive of the most aggressive NATO power & capitalist state in the world — as weak and “bought off” by Putin, you are using the exact same argument made against Trump by Democrats.

You may think you are being clever here, but you are merely dancing to a tune set by the CIA and lunatic imperialist, pro-MIC forces who want a “harder,” more militarist posture toward Putin over Crimea, Donbas, etc.

. . . it's like you haven't actually read any of the links I have posted, nor do you care to.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

. . . it's like you haven't actually read any of the links I have posted, nor do you care to.

Jesus, man. I read most of your links long before you posted them. All of the authors you quote are very familiar to me. I’ve been against foreign adventurism and U.S. imperialism since Vietnam War days, when I was an anti-war activist. I’ve paid my own dues in this struggle, over more than 50 years. You don’t seem to know who you are talking to.

 

[Captain Caveman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-ukraine-invasion/2021/12/03/98a3760e-546b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

As tensions mount between Washington and Moscow over a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine, U.S. intelligence has found the Kremlin is planning a multi-front offensive as soon as early next year involving up to 175,000 troops, according to U.S. officials and an intelligence document obtained by The Washington Post.

The Kremlin has been moving troops toward the border with Ukraine while demanding Washington guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO and that the alliance will refrain from certain military activities in and around Ukrainian territory. The crisis has provoked fears of a renewed war on European soil and comes ahead of a planned virtual meeting next week between President Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The Russian plans call for a military offensive against Ukraine as soon as early 2022 with a scale of forces twice what we saw this past spring during Russia’s snap exercise near Ukraine’s borders,” said an administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information. “The plans involve extensive movement of 100 battalion tactical groups with an estimated 175,000 personnel, along with armor, artillery and equipment.”

[snip]

While laying the groundwork for an invasion, the Russian government has also been waging a propaganda campaign, the U.S. administration official said.

“Additionally, in the past month, our information indicates Russian influence proxies and media outlets have started to increase content denigrating Ukraine and NATO, in part to pin the blame for a potential Russian military escalation on Ukraine,” the official said.
“Recent information also indicates that Russian officials proposed adjusting Russia’s information operations against Ukraine to emphasize the narrative that Ukrainian leaders had been installed by the West, harbored a hatred for the ‘Russian world,’ and were acting against the interests of the Ukrainian people.”

In his comments in Latvia, Blinken cautioned the Ukrainians not to give Russia a pretext for military action.
“We’re also urging Ukraine to continue to exercise restraint because, again, the Russian playbook is to claim provocation for something that they were planning to do all along,” he said.

Putin has demanded the United States and its allies provide signed assurances excluding any expansion of NATO to include Ukraine and Georgia and limiting military activity near Russia’s borders, most notably in and around Ukraine.

[snip]

White House press secretary Jen Psaki rejected out of hand the idea that Washington would provide a guarantee that Ukraine will not enter NATO.
“NATO member countries decide who is a member of NATO, not Russia,” Psaki told reporters during a White House briefing Friday.


Fuck Putin. In a head-to-head contest, we'd kick his ass.

America has Biden, so America is as much use as tits on a fish.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

How bizarre. So, we consult geologists about where the boundary of the European continent lies, to decide our foreign policy?

And then pretend any event that happens within this imaginary line is the problem of all countries within it, and only their problem, and it won't affect us?

If you don't care if Russia invades a European country for the third time in 13 years, then say so. No need to try to wrap it in some embroidered pillow euphemism.

Caring and not getting involved in warfare are not mutually exclusive. On one hand the left whines that we need to be more like Europe and adopt their social welfare states and take care of our own people better. The only reason why those countries can afford their generous welfare states is because they've drastically cut back on defense spending since the WWII days because we are picking up the slack for them. We've got bases and soldiers stationed all over Europe and that military largesse has added to our near $30 trillion debt.

So decide what you want. Do you want to take care of Americans first or do you want to blow our money fighting everybody else's war because our debt level clearly indicates we can't do both. Russia invading Ukraine, while concerning, is far more of a concern to the European nations being that it's in their backyard than it is for us, so yes, let them get off their decadent asses and clean their own shit up. We can contribute with economic interference, but we should not be sending a single American soldier to fight that war.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Surely you see how silly and partisan this is. This is just like the Democrat’s attacks on Trump’s “Russian collusion.”

The "Russian Collusion" was between Hillary and her Russian Allies

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The "Russian Collusion" was between Hillary and her Russian Allies

More lame partisanship. Give it a break already.

Try to say something intelligent for a change — about the subject. You know, like about the Ukraine, Crimea, Donbas, NATO, nationalist Russian & Ukrainian politicians, military questions … anything at all !